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The video might be in bad taste, but LOL at the "unapologetically plastic" thing.
Only because Steve isn't around to apologise to, or they'd be sorry :D
 
so you only ever buy the innovative phones? well good luck to you, because there has not been an innovative phone for quite some time

Sorry, but both of you don't have any idea what innovation means and how it works in products and markets.

It seems many people here equate innovation with "this gadget has the function that I like" and that the absence of a desired function (such as NFC) means that Apple or whatever producer is not innovating.
 
A fingerprint censor from the future that actually works is not innovative? It'll be used no doubt eventually for mobile payments.

What's your idea of innovative? A bigger screen? Come on, the smartphone industry will just never be as innovative as the years 2007 to 2010 again. There's only so much you can do with current and upcoming technology. "Innovation" itself is beginning to sound like a buzzword in which if it isn't a crazily revolutionary product, it "isn't innovative".

Well said. Samsung make bigger screens and a new stylus pen, and they are the innovators???!!! When apple released the first iPhone it was great and revolutionary. This continued to be even greater up to the iphone4. After that, why change an already great product? It's hard to improve when you nail it the first time. People also forget one of the main reasons Nokia did so well before the iPhone. People bought them because there was practically zero learning curve, and that is the same with an iPhone. You know what to expect, and how it works, straight away. Whilst that is not for everyone, thats worth so much money in the market. I think this S edition iPhone has way more upgrades and extra features over the previous model than either the 3GS or 4S had. Simply put, I think it's the best S iphone ever, and as innovative as is possible these days.
 
Well said. Samsung make bigger screens and a new stylus pen, and they are the innovators???!!! etc..

I agree with most of your points, but the addition of a stylus and bigger screens are also innovations but incremental ones. The smartphone market is very mature in terms of technology, making large or disruptive innovations difficult or even impossible. Apple's first iPhone in 2007 was a disruptive innovation and the iPad was too.

Many people here expect a disruptive innovation to appear again in the iPhone line, but that is just not going to happen. The only thing any of the producers can do are to add small improvements and functions to their phones.
 
Wow, if that's how they treat their 'friends at Cupertino' I'd hate to see how they treat their enemies.
 
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Wow....36 pages so far....Yea, well MS definitely succeeded in stirring the hornet's nest.

But in all seriousness, yea **** this ad and **** MS. Can't wait for the day that I can rid my Mac of Windows.
 
Well said. Samsung make bigger screens and a new stylus pen, and they are the innovators???!!! When apple released the first iPhone it was great and revolutionary. This continued to be even greater up to the iphone4. After that, why change an already great product? It's hard to improve when you nail it the first time. People also forget one of the main reasons Nokia did so well before the iPhone. People bought them because there was practically zero learning curve, and that is the same with an iPhone. You know what to expect, and how it works, straight away. Whilst that is not for everyone, thats worth so much money in the market. I think this S edition iPhone has way more upgrades and extra features over the previous model than either the 3GS or 4S had. Simply put, I think it's the best S iphone ever, and as innovative as is possible these days.

Very well said.

What did Samsung innovate in the mobile space name one thing that was risky and turned out to be great, just one thing?

Lets talk about Finger print sensor and decision company made.

1. the sensor will be used only to unlock and for appstore.
2. in wont save the fingerprint image.
3. it will save encrypted data, on the main processor itself.
4. it wont be open to third party.
5. beyond 24hrs you will require passcode.

Now just imagine, you, as a company, making a fingerprint sensor for your phone, how will reach to these decisions. Apple creates all the rules how things should be done, rest just copy it. Work becomes easy for other manufacturers to just implement.

Look at the music store, appstore, app submission and verification, look at how simple is to just create folder on the iphone.....the list is endless.

Also, Google's Glass, is one of the top most tech innovation. It may work or fail, let see, but it is a great innovation.
 
Wow, I never thought Microsoft ads could get any worse than the one they made with Jerry Seinfeld. I now see I was wrong.
 
What is it these days that such a bunch of tasteless messages hit the internet, being it this or some recent twitter stupidities?

There is no reason for MS to be friends with Cupertino, so don't claim that. However addressing your competitors with grandeur will improve your dignity; this video was the other way around.

Let's show some grandeur and accept their apologies.
 
Dear Microsoft,
You feel the SURFACE you're sitting on? Surrounded by other LOOSERS?
It's called "Rock Bottom"
:D

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Let's show some grandeur and accept their apologies.

I don't accept anything coming from Balmer :mad:
 
Don't know what's even worse, having the idea to create such an ad or in a second step approving nonsense like this. By the way, there's not even a message behind as the products offer no added value at all.
 
If the executive in the videos is intended to resemble Steve Jobs, then they would appear to be in very poor taste. It's not at all clear how the videos -- which don't ever explain how Windows Phone is better than iOS -- help Microsoft achieve its stated goal of getting users to switch to its platform.

- A fly on the wall in Cupertino
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: Colours
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: Polycarbonate
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: Innovative materials
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: The phone for everyone
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: Fingerprint reader
- A fly on the wall in Cupertino: 8-megapixel camera

Update 12:42 PM PDT: Microsoft has pulled the videos from YouTube. The video embedded above is from a backup a viewer saved.

So Microsoft pulled these ineffective and tacky videos. 7 or 8 lengthy videos, longer than most TV commercials.

Hmm, it probably required the work of 5 or 6 Microsoft ad agency employees (including the 3 video actors). And probably consumed several thousand dollars, including the dozens of hours of time-on-the-clock required to pay those bozos while they were doing this as a Microsoft "project".

It goes live on the internet for less than one day. And then it gets pulled, along with a humiliating 'mea culpa' apology. Complete waste of money. Complete waste of resources. Microsoft stupidity at its best. No wonder the company is so far behind Google and Apple in the mobile arena.
 
At the end of the day...... Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, Google are all WINNING.

Microsoft posts a few videos lightly poking fun at Apple and it's customers and people get so uptight.

These companies make billions of dollars off of us and will continue to do so whether you people sit here arguing or not. Loyalty is so crazy when it comes to technology.

I love Apple, BUT don't care what one company says about another. It's friendly competition whether true or not.

You guys keep letting it get to you. I'll continue to get iPhones on Day 1 and continue using my iMac. You don't need to justify ANYTHING. Use what you want to. Don't feel the need to tell a non-Apple fan why you're sticking with iOS/OS X.
 
shush, keep it a secret, MR needs the clicks...



I agree w/ you, saw it and though of Cook, unless Jobs came back from the grave to discuss the 5S and 5C (right MR writer :rolleyes:)... the writer here on MR has gone too far this time to get clicks and comments, which makes him/her sadder than the stupid video.

I disagree. Tim Cook has a head full of grey hair and it was light brown before that. The guy in this video is balding with black hair and looks kind of thin. Tim always wears dress shirts while this guy has on something more similar to Steve's attire. I think the secret is that M$ spent quite a bit of money hoping for any kind of publicity they could get by making these ads in poor taste. While Apple's PC/Mac Ads seemed like an attack on M$ to their fans, each one served to highlight and correct misconceptions that had ben sold to the public by the IT geeks for years. They effective because they showed Apple's answer to the frustration that many had, but didn't know there was a way out.
 
Just watched it and cannot believe what I saw. That a multi billion dollar company is releasing those (even if pulled later) tells everything about their taste or better lack thereof.

Sad Microsoft, really sad....
 
I actually don't think it was off the mark but I do think it was a HUGE waste of money and a lame ad. Not funny at all.
 
You guys act like Apple is somehow perfect. I can't recall a more smug arrogant company led by a more arrogant group of senior management than Apple.

They take shots at other companies.

Seriously, get over yourselves.

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I actually don't think it was off the mark but I do think it was a HUGE waste of money and a lame ad. Not funny at all.

sort of like the I'm a Mac, I'm a PC ads
 
It's got Ballmer's name all over it...perhaps he thinks advertising is the next thing he can fail at...
 
Very well said.

What did Samsung innovate in the mobile space name one thing that was risky and turned out to be great, just one thing?

Lets talk about Finger print sensor and decision company made.

1. the sensor will be used only to unlock and for appstore.
2. in wont save the fingerprint image.
3. it will save encrypted data, on the main processor itself.
4. it wont be open to third party.
5. beyond 24hrs you will require passcode.
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Do we really need a fingerprint id thingy? If it's optional, would I get it?

The bigger screen on Note 3, the stylus to jot down notes and phone numbers, the faster RAM, the faster browser, the multi app , better battery, and just as good screen makes this an interesting phablet. Sure, it depends on what you want.

Security is great and all ... but... is that it?
 
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