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Microsoft Previews Windows 8 with Cues from iPad and App Store

I am simultaneously impressed and underwhelmed. :confused:

Impressed:
-Being able to run both touch interfaces and traditional Windows 7-style UI is pretty neat. Touch-designed apps for Windows 8, cool.

-It's true, tiles can show much more information than a simple app-launching icon. We'll see Apple's progress next Monday, but until then, both Honeycomb and WP7/Windows 8 have advantages in at-a-glance information.

-The style is bold and futuristic, but I can see how some might call it tacky. At least it's better than just a touch version of Vista/7. Can't blame them for lack of ambition.

-The side-by-side panels thing looks useful. Multitasking on an iPad is currently pretty poor (again, we'll all revisit this next Monday). Being able to go back and forth between mobile apps and full-Windows looks cool.

-full file system

-The thumb keyboard is cool. I'm faster at thumb-typing than full-size touchscreen typing...

-Some of the graphics look neat (e.g. homescreen). Much more modern/subtle than iOS lockscreen....

-unified OS across all devices


Underwhelmed
-integration looks pretty bad. More of an overlay/skin than true integration. The two styles clash very badly.

-traditional Windows looks completely unoptimized for touch.

-multitasking blindly?! swipe in and go through your apps one at a time? "Bird's eye view", whether Expose-style or Honeycomb-style, is much more useful...

-Will that actually run on a phone? That's the one device he glossed over...

-come on, those scrollbars are soooo iOS...

Prediction: Apple will be the last to unify its OSs. But it will be the best implementation, and completely seamless...
 
Mattsasa said:
NO!!!!!

1. buy ipad 3
2. buy windows 8 for ARM
3. jailbreak ipad 3
4. install some hacks and bootloaders and ****
5. install windows 8 natively on ipad 3
6. (optional) dual-boot with ios 6
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You forgot steps 7 & 8.

7. ???
8. PROFIT!!!
 
InsanelyApple said:
It was like 60% joke and 40% serious. The problem with the interwebs is that jokes have a hard time being transmitted.
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Quite true. No offense meant or taken.

Apple... said:
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Dang. What's your definition then?
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You must eat, sleep and drink Apple. You must worship Steve. You must brag to all of your friends and co-workers about how much money Apple makes. Even if Apple makes something less than stellar, attack anyone that doesn't think it is great. If anyone makes a suggestion for an improvement to an Apple product, accuse them of being a hater, or better yet, a troll. Hope that all other companies go bankrupt. Wish horrible fates upon Microsoft, Google, Sony, HP, etc. Laugh when the competion comes out with a product intended to compete with Apple. If said product is pretty good, accuse them of copying Apple. Start with these basics and then I can give you pointers from there.. Oh, and don't forget to give negative ratings to every post if it doesn't glorify Apple in a proper manner.

rorschach said:
No, but the Microsoft fanboys sure are. "toys for infants" indeed.
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I only read Apple fanboys bragging about how simple something is to use.
 
Looks good. For a first time in a while I actually look forward to a MS product! Good job, hope it works as 'advertised'.
 
Looks like ass. I can't decide if it looks more like a site from 10 years ago, or a kids magazine. I think the whole look and feel of this new theme MS is going for looks cheap and amateur. You'd think by the unpopularity of Win 7 mobile that they'd get a clue that it's not working. But I guess that's just typical of MS. They're always 10 years behind.

It's at the point now where MS isn't even good at ripping anyone off. And that used to be their strong point.

Sorry guys. Keep trying.
 
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AppleScruff1 said:
InsanelyApple said:
It was like 60% joke and 40% serious. The problem with the interwebs is that jokes have a hard time being transmitted.
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Quite true. No offense meant or taken.

Apple... said:
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Dang. What's your definition then?
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You must eat, sleep and drink Apple. You must worship Steve. You must brag to all of your friends and co-workers about how much money Apple makes. Even if Apple makes something less than stellar, attack anyone that doesn't think it is great. If anyone makes a suggestion for an improvement to an Apple product, accuse them of being a hater, or better yet, a troll. Hope that all other companies go bankrupt. Wish horrible fates upon Microsoft, Google, Sony, HP, etc. Laugh when the competion comes out with a product intended to compete with Apple. If said product is pretty good, accuse them of copying Apple. Start with these basics and then I can give you pointers from there.. Oh, and don't forget to give negative ratings to every post if it doesn't glorify Apple in a proper manner.

rorschach said:
No, but the Microsoft fanboys sure are. "toys for infants" indeed.
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I only read Apple fanboys bragging about how simple something is to use.
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Yeah, sorry - I'll never fit that profile. ;)
 
Lot of you guys are talking about tablets vs desktop but there were quite a few touchscreen based desktops released in the last few years for pc market.

Overall, this is probably the most logical step in the evolution of windows and it actually looks great.
 
MacFly123 said:
It has some cool ideas but the transition to legacy Windows apps is VERY harsh and there is one thing I know for sure about Windows users.... THEY DO NOT LIKE CHANGE!!!
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Wrong, Windows user happily accept change, as long as the change brings an improvement. The taskbar in Windows 7 works very differently to the taskbar in all previous versions, but it was happily accepted because it works better.

Hopefully this is the right type of change.
 
krye said:
You'd think by the unpopularity of Win 7 mobile that they'd get a clue that it's not working.
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Is WP7 not doing well because of how it looks?

Or because Android and the iPhone are just too good to resist?

I think Windows 8 will do well because... well... it's Windows.
 
This looks very very nice. As a fan of windows in can't wait, looks like my next tablet will be a Thinkpad convertible tablet. Can't wait!
 
ph00ny said:
Lot of you guys are talking about tablets vs desktop but there were quite a few touchscreen based desktops released in the last few years for pc market.

Overall, this is probably the most logical step in the evolution of windows and it actually looks great.
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I am not terribly fond of touchscreen desktops. What we do have here the chance to have a consistent touch/tile environment on the desktop and tablets though. This is just the beginning. Nothing really defined what their demo machine was going to be. I will agree that the feeling of an overlay layer is disheartening.

However they have been doing that for years under Windows Media Center. Windows Media Center is one of the stronger features on Windows right now and greatly improved under Windows 7 compared to Vista.
 
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now iOS looks even more dated than it already did. please give us widgets on monday. the lockscreen has been useless for too many years already ...
 
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Yeah, sorry - I'll never fit that profile. ;)
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:D:D Then I look forward to reading your posts in the future. Being sensible it good.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Quite true. No offense meant or taken.
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Same here but, that should be Apple's next project.

Steve Jobs said:
One more thing... This is the iThink. It will tell people what you mean on the internet. A joke is so hard to put out there because people can't tell if you are being serious or not. This will scan your brain and tell people what you were intending that to be. We think that this will change the way people interact on the internet. *applause*
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The big question is, will they be able to run Windows 8, which is a Touch UI over a Desktop OS on a tablet and get more than like 2 hours of autonomy out of it ?

Yes having lots of apps open at the same time is pretty cool, but it also does drain the battery. iPad is able to achieve incredible battery autonomy on a very small and light device.
 
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