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Microsoft Previews Windows 8 with Cues from iPad and App Store

boss.king said:
Wrong, Windows user happily accept change, as long as the change brings an improvement. The taskbar in Windows 7 works very differently to the taskbar in all previous versions, but it was happily accepted because it works better.

Hopefully this is the right type of change.
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I'd love to agree with you but I simply can't lol! Do you have any background knowledge of Microsoft and Windows and computing in the tech industry and how notorious Microsoft is to never ditch legacy because their users are so archaic? Do you know how many people still use Windows XP or how many years Microsoft had to extend its existence because people still wanted to use what they were familiar with? The biggest reason Windows 7 is starting to proliferate is because people have been forced into it when buying new PCs. Funny, that is the same way Windows got its monopoly and OEM lock-in to begin with lol! :rolleyes:
 
I think it looks great, if windows PC is to transition to touch screen input then they need to have some sort of stop gap OS that does both like this. I think to unify the experience a bit more they should add the metro UI into the start menu and explorer rather than the windows 7 look they have going on there(still maintaining same function and overall dimensions).
 
did i miss something? i saw nothing iOS like there :confused:

but of course.. there will be some that will claim this is also copying apple. sad place this forum has become
 
bushido said:
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; de-de) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

now iOS looks even more dated than it already did. please give us widgets on monday. the lockscreen has been useless for too many years already ...
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I feel something big coming Monday. Apple has invited all these journalists and pre announced what they are showcasing. Lion has already been pretty much announced. People know what it looks like and its features. I like Steve will start with sales, figures, and numbers. Then get into iOS 5, bring the cloud into it, finish with how they interact with Lion, close with when they will all be available. Maybe just maybe, there will be a one more thing.

Monday will not disappoint. Its gonna be disappointing having to wait till Monday though :D
 
boss.king said:
Wrong, Windows user happily accept change, as long as the change brings an improvement. The taskbar in Windows 7 works very differently to the taskbar in all previous versions, but it was happily accepted because it works better.

Hopefully this is the right type of change.
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Hahaha. Windows users are all about customizing the crap out of their OS

Michael Scrip said:
Is WP7 not doing well because of how it looks?

Or because Android and the iPhone are just too good to resist?

I think Windows 8 will do well because... well... it's Windows.
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pretty much sums it up
 
Honestly, I hate the way they fit oversized bits on the screen, it should all be scaled to size. It's like on the home screen, you also see part of screen 2 when they should just make the tiles on the home screen larger. Much in the same way the fonts are oversized on the mobile UI so it only fits parts of the word. Just horribly done in my opinion.
 
Can't wait to use this! I love using my keyboard and mouse with a cramped tablet OS. All apps designed for a tablet. The business and the creative market as well as most of the consumer market won't buy this.
:apple:
 
I have to give it to Microsoft though, the interface is very different than what Apple is doing. I am so tired of seeing near identical clones of iOS, so the fact that it's so radically different is appreciated.

That said, it looks like a great interface for a tablet! Now I just don't see it being a practical desktop OS. I think it will work great as an overlay type deal to make the laptop/slate/desktop a unified experience. My mom loves her iPhone, but my Mac still confuses her...

I love how you can snap things to the side of the screen for multitasking, and the keyboard that's doesn't cover the entire bottom half of the screen. Even the scrolling sideways through pictures is a refreshing change.
 
Sweet, a tablet OS where the Marketplace icon takes up a full 1/9th of the screen. :rolleyes:

As always, Microsoft is following Apple's contrail. And doing so badly.
 
Mattsasa said:
NO!!!!!

1. buy ipad 3
2. buy windows 8 for ARM
3. jailbreak ipad 3
4. install some hacks and bootloaders and ****
5. install windows 8 natively on ipad 3
6. (optional) dual-boot with ios 6
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7. ???
8. PROFIT!!!

Never thought of that, LOL. Maybe it'll be possible, but for the time being, only in my dreams.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
So OSX has 6.35% of the world market, and the 15% quoted in the post I replied to was a bit deceiving. And by the graph you posted, Windows 7 sales are up substantially while OSX sales are quite flat.
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People manipulate reports to their likings, but I'll be interested in the stats in 3 years because of...

1) Halo effect with Macs and iPads
2) Chrome OS and MeeGo (Both look/are very promising)
3) Tablets vs. Traditional devices
 
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While I definitely don't like it (not a fan of their approach to WP7 UI-wise) it's nice to see them actually making a change for once.
 
The tiles interface just doesn't seem very good to me, its too simple. And before someone tells me Mac OS has a simple interface, I know its simple, but its on the balance of simple yet usable. and also, I have to agree that the tiles interface seems way too tablet oriented, and tablet have a limited market as people who do video, photography, gaming, and other stuff like that (like me) will want the larger screen, keyboard, and more hardware that fit into a traditional laptop style.

Also, it seems once again that MS is just building onto its previous OS.
I think its time they start over from scratch. new code, new file system, new everything.

I love my MacBook, and no Windows UI gimmick is going to get me to go back to the hell of Windows.
 
AppleScruff1 you seem to have an immense hatred for all things Apple... I mean it's perfectly fine to dislike something and reasonably voice your opinion but why do you seem so hell bent on attacking every person supporting Apple (with very stale, canned responses to boot)? To be honest your demeanor (or poor attempts at sarcasm) has ironically shown to be far worse than the "fanboys" you seem to mock, and it's not even close. I'm guessing you've had bad Apple experiences in the past? Either way, the attacks are unwarranted, from anyone really. And I'm also interested in how each of your posts are voted up while virtually every person you attack is conveniently voted down. Coincidence? I think not.

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Anyway, I actually kind of like the way the tiles looked with WP7, they aren't that bad. Probably wouldn't use switch to it myself but the interface is a lot better than what I'd expect from MS.
 
InsanelyApple said:
People manipulate reports to their likings, but I'll be interested in the stats in 3 years because of...

1) Halo effect with Macs.
2) Chrome OS and MeeGo (Both look/are very promising)
3) Tablets vs. Traditional devices
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Windows won't keep 90% of the market much longer, it has nowhere to go except down. It will be the dominant full os for some time to come, Chrome may get a share of the market similar to OSX as time goes on, but as you said, as tablets get more popular things will get mixed around a bit. Obviously this is why Windows 8 is being designed this way. It will cover all bases.
 
I must admit, I'm a sucker for that "Phone 7" look with the tiles. I think they're really onto something there.

The problem is, however, this is obviously two separate interfaces smashed together. As much as they don't like to admit it, the touch interface is not going to work nearly as well with a mouse, and the standard "Windows-looking" interface is not going to work well with touch.
 
Well done Microsoft.

I don't think iOS (iPad) will get any less popular any time soon, however I think Windows 8 will take over Honeycomb or Ice-cream soon after its release. I'm just hoping we don't get the overlay on computers as I think its kinda stupid unless they redesign it for PCs. Also I really hope that Microsoft don't use the same OS on both PCs and tablets. They should make them separate for sure. Hopefully a redesign of Windows 8. I don't want windows 8 to be some new things + windows 7 under the hood.
Anyway, I applaud Microsoft for their work so far and I'm really looking forward to windows 8. Will be getting my hands on the developers beta as soon as they are publicly available.
 
grmatt said:
I must admit, I'm a sucker for that "Phone 7" look with the tiles. I think they're really onto something there.

The problem is, however, this is obviously two separate interfaces smashed together. As much as they don't like to admit it, the touch interface is not going to work nearly as well with a mouse, and the standard "Windows-looking" interface is not going to work well with touch.
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So touch will be used with tablets and phones and the standard interface will be used with desktops and notebooks. No problem at all.
 
So they updated window snapping and they also added a special theme for tablet computers. What's new from Windows 7 for the rest of us business/work centered users? Nothing? As of now it seems that my $400 will stay in my pocket.
 
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