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To be honest, whenever I use Windows 10 I prefer FireFox to both Edge and IE. I still prefer IE to Edge. I try to never use Chrome on any platform or device as Google is the sleaziest pile of garbage in the tech industry. You have to really work hard to out sleaze Facebook and the ZuckerTurd, but Google somehow always manages to be the king of sleaze.
 
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I'll never use anything from Google or Microsoft.. they can't be trusted.
I trust Microsoft more than I do Google. Microsoft seems to actually value privacy but know very well that their software can sometimes be a unruly playground without a working locked gate.
Google is literally in bed with Advertisers and if possible will always sell customers as a product
 
I agree. Imagine having a Chrome browser without all the Google stuff, and with smooth scrolling added, that syncs with your Microsoft account. This is what Edge on Chromium basically is. It is actually a good idea and I hope that it will work well on the Mac too. I have been using the developer version for a while now on my company's laptop running Windows 10, and it is basically like Chrome. I see no difference (so far)..
Edge on the Mac will not replace Safari for me, but it will become my second browser and will make me uninstall Chrome completely. I never trusted Google and I definitely trust Microsoft much more..
 
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Basically WebKit wins the browser war for good, with the default browsers for the major platforms (Mac, Windows, Android, and iOS) are all WebKit.
Wonder how the Firefox people would feel.

That's inaccurate. To be clear, Google Chrome doesn't use webkit engine. It uses the Blink engine, which was derived from the webkit engine, but is different in its own right. People often cite Chrome as being based on Chromium (which is true), but Chromium is built upon Blink.

Conversely, Firefox has its Gecko engine, which has been around for quite some time. They still have a rather big user base, so I doubt they'll be going anywhere anytime soon.
 
Reading the different comments about the "browser wars" of years gone by somewhat amuses me. In fact, I think it's actually very important to look back on that history, and remember how we got to where we are today.

Webkit was initially developed by Apple -- but it was based upon KHTML, an open-sourced browser developed for the Linux-based KDE environment. KHTML was never really going to gain any kind of noteworthy traction, as a Linux-only solution... but it's interesting that now, its successor is quite literally everywhere. Where we once had several popular web rendering engines all vying for the top of the heap, we now have Webkit... and Gecko (aka Firefox). All of the major players (save that sole holdout) have given up on their disparate attempts at developing independent rendering engines, with the vast majority switching over to some flavor of Webkit.

Mind you, I don't give all of the credit to Apple, here: Google gets some credit, too -- or blame, depending upon how you view things. But that never would have happened, if not for Apple picking up that barely-known-open-sourced Linux browser and running with it.

But here's the crux of the matter: there was a time when Linux and "open-source" had a much more dramatic overlap, in that nearly everything that was one, was also almost exclusively the other as well. And Linux advocates were always crowing about the coming of "the year of the Linux desktop" and how they were eventually going to take over the world, and beat both Microsoft and Apple... while the rest of us just rolled our eyes at their unmitigated hubris. After all these years, they've still made very negligible inroads on the desktop with Linux (my daughter absolutely hates her school issued Chromebook) but maybe, just maybe, you could argue that they did succeed at their goals in a far more subtle fashion... by way of the humble beginnings of KHTML.

It kind'a makes you think, ya know?

(Side-note: this post was written in Firefox. ;) )
 
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Ads for Brave? Not that I can recall. It’s been my default browser on Mac and iOS for a long time now (maybe 2+ years?) and the ad-blocking is very good. I don’t think you can find better built-in ad-blocking on iOS. No extensions required.

Apparently it's an opt-in thing. I didn't read up on it when I first heard about it, just recognized the name Brave and vaguely remembered. https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/24/brave-ads/
 
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Anyone remember that worthless pile of garbage called "CyberDog"? It was introduced by Apple in February 1996 and abandoned in March 1997. Apple was clueless back then as far as browsers go. I think CyberDog was a whole suite of internet apps though, but still it never worked correctly for me. CyberDog spent most of its short life licking its private parts and eating its own poop. We thought IE (Internet Exploder) was horrible, but CyberDog was much worse! In the 1990s both Apple and MS grossly under-estimated the worth of the internet and were clueless as to what they could do to embrace it. It took them a while to get with the program, so to speak.
 
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Wait, that IE mode. Does that mean we could roll back to different versions? That's about to make testing on browsers a hell of a lot easier.
 
You still get a lot of IE11 users? Gross. I feel bad for you.
Very common in healthcare. Multiple large hospital systems, as recently as last year, standardized on Windows 7 and IE 11 as the only option for most workers.
 
I am not particularly happy with any browsers available on Mac so a new option is good. But there is very little to go on here. What is the feature set compared to Safari, Chrome and Firefox? How good is the extensions ecosystem?
 
Whenever I can use Safari, I use Safari.
Whenever I cant, I use Chrome.
I would rather Microsoft spend the effort for something else... Maybe compatibility for iWork files with Office apps? Gonna be way much more useful/helpful

I use Safari on iOS and OS X preferably. Otherwise I use Firefox ... chrome has grown in glut and I’m not trusting the security “features” actually take hold as it’s once was anymore.
 
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As one who makes a living supporting MS based websites (SharePoint/Office 365) Edge and IE are the worst possible browsers you can use. Microsoft is their own worst enemy when it comes to supporting their own CMS standards within their own browsers. We always recommend Chrome to our clients.
 
Just keep in mind most MS apps for macOS/iOS in recent time have been better than their equivalent Apple versions, especially for enterprise. Microsoft's iOS/macOS teams are phenomenal and the close relationship with Apple has been great for everyone recently. I don't necessarily expect Edge to replace my Safari usage, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes close.
 
Whenever I can use Safari, I use Safari.
Whenever I cant, I use Chrome.
I would rather Microsoft spend the effort for something else... Maybe compatibility for iWork files with Office apps? Gonna be way much more useful/helpful
Microsoft has 200,000+ employees. Their browser folks don’t work on Office.
 
I just hope that this means I’ll be able to delete the 30GB VM that I have to browser test my company’s web apps in IE11.

I have my doubts. I still occasionally run into bugs which only show up in one particular browser on one particular platform... such as Firefox on Mac (but not Windows) or Chrome on Windows (but not Mac).

Which is why I have a VirtualBox VM running Windows 10.
 
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