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Microsoft Purchases Nokia's Device and Services Division to Unite Windows Phone Hardware and Software

cclloyd said:
0 crashes in 2 years for iOS.

Except when I install a jailbreak tweak that I know has a good chance of crashing it.
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I'm pretty sure you've had two crashes of some sort in 2 years on iOS. Apple tends to hide crashes pretty well in that they make it look like you "did something wrong" when it occurs. No software is perfect. None.

But it doesn't matter because it's not really a [urinating] contest. Every platform is pretty darn stable these days.

TouchMint.com said:
I wonder what will happen to nok and msft stock...
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I'm going to guess MSFT will go down tomorrow. Nokia is doing poorly, and MS spends more than a quarter of profits on them? It kind of smells of desperation. How long will it take to recoup that 7.2 billion in CASH from Windows Phone sales? Do they even make profits?

The problem is simply that Windows Phone is ugly. Like, really ugly. And it doesn't have apps that people want. What kind of combo is that? Buying Nokia does zero to fix that.
 
Stop the presses.....

a new juggernaut is born.....Not a surprise, after Google embraces Android. And that move was after Apple made their sucessful foray in mobile communications.

Sharks had already smelled the blood.....:eek:



:):apple:
 
smoledman said:
What crashing? My experience with Windows Phone 7.0/7.5/8.0 has been one of utter stability. Maybe 2 crashes in 18 months.
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Windows phone is quite good, but need more clarity in the UI, I kind got lost using. Maybe I used it for small time that's why, but it took me quite back n forth to move images from the camera roll to the sd card, I partly failed though.
 
Interesting move... wonder if the next will result in stale mate, or if there will be actual progression?
 
If they weren't doomed before...

Jokes aside, it's a interesting, though predictable move, and unlike Googles purchase of Motorola this as likely been done for the right reasons but is it a case of too much too late?
 
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ciociosan said:
Only a $13 billion company: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Solutions_and_Networks

Among other parts. I know people here hate Google and all, but would it kill you to use it once in a while?
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We all use it a lot. Superb search tool, bloated mail service, improving mobile OS, disappointed with Chrome OS, dont see the point in Hangouts, best maps in the world, jealous I cant have google fibre, looking forward to seeing their smart watch; would never use google glasses.
 
Windows on Lumia

... is preferable to Samsung & Android - at least for me. And I am not a friend of MS. But I am in Apple's ecosystem. And Nokia, a company fom the Baltic, (Finland) asked for an insanely amount of German taxpayers money - and after having received it - in exchange for the promise of creating jobs for German workers... they did close the factory and transfer the jobs to cheap Asia. Nokia definitely deserves going down the drain!
 
crackbookpro said:
If Microsoft could get some legit marketing, a new OS utilizng a start button & mouse on a large LCD screen/monitor (not touchscreen), and a legit manufacturer/supplier for their mobile market which they now have - I think we may see a legit comeback from MS...

They are the sleepng dragon in the big tech world...

Still though, the MS Marketing just sucks, and their mobile hardware manu co's are still not top tier for quality & build... But, time may tell with the latest news.
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A sleeping Dragon can roll over and crush the little people... Still doesn't mean the Dragon has finally gotten a clue.

The danger for Microsoft is that the Dragon can't really keep all its treasure on its own. Apple and others are looting the Dragon's horde with impunity for the last five years... The waking Dragon has just as much chance waking up and walking off a clif as it does capturing the fleeing treasure.
 
jav6454 said:
Microsoft's strategy to sell software and the OS to OEMs worked well early on because early on, you needed cheap choices.

Now, that Apple has managed to show that the vertical business model works and is the future, Microsoft is shifting focus.

Apple's strategy was never intended for the personal computer as we all know, anyone can build a computer.

However, with electronics as the tablets and phones, it is crucial that same company that makes the software makes the hardware. This is where Apple's walled garden shines. As it does work well here.

Google's ploy is similar to what Microsoft did in the late 80's and all the 90's. But in the end, Google will also realize they need to vertically integrate, and I am betting HTC will be the one providing that integration.
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Some interesting possibilities are around the corner. If the Micro-Kia duo manages to succeed with vertically integrated hardware/software products (following Apple's strategy of course), I can only guess that Google won't be the next one to follow in that method. Google is too big, too behemoth, too invested, and too slow to be able to make a quick 180-degree strategic shift like this.

Instead... another player like Amazon or Samsung, who have already been distancing themselves away from the Google Android Mothership, will be in the position to "go vertical", go self-dependent, and drop all dependency on Google. Samsung has been floating the idea of Tizen. And of course, Amazon already has Kindle, they just need to work on their hardware manufacturing capability (maybe invest in their own chip foundry?)
 
Going to be tough

Android smartphone: 79.3%
Windows smartphone: 3.7%

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not much better for tablets:

Android tablets: 62.6%
Windows tablets: 4.5%


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and Android tablet market share will only go up from 62.6%
 
Hm. This is huge. But... Apple switched to Intel some years ago. That was equally huge.

One thing you have to give to Microsoft: They usually don't cripple existing services. So the name Nokia is here to stay for quite some time.

Which, after some quick thinking, is quite a good move. From both companies.
 
Rogifan said:
Every time I see big acquisitions I'm reminded of how impressive it is how big Apple has become considering its never made a large acquisition like this. Other companies buy growth and marketshare; Apple has done it organically.
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This is technically wrong. Apple bought Next which became the basis of OS X. The rest as they say is history.
 
PBF said:
About time.

Now it's Apple's turn to buy Microsoft.
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It will never happen. Microsoft has a few cash cows that will generate revenue in the billions. Microsoft will always have money to burn and waste on failed initiatives for as many times as they want.
 
Mad Mac Maniac said:
And here continues the trend of becoming a devices and services company.....

Now will other handset makers just give up on windows phone entirely?
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Yeah, I wonder what will happen there. Seems kind of unpredictable and quite a bet from Microsoft. I doubt they're jumping with joy over the fact they're competing with a vertically integrated company. They're bound the be considered second-class citizens now.

Will this move really help Windows Phone shares before they're hurt?
 
Can't decide if this is a good thing or not? Because now the devices are fully under Microsofts decision making, which, judging by the Xbox One fiasco recently hasn't exactly been professional and with a clear vision.....

I feel sorry for Nokia.
 
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