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Microsoft Raises Prices for All Surface PCs, Making Them More Expensive Than Equivalent Macs

tarkeybear said:
For all the Tim haters out there, that boy seems to understand supply chain!
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Or, their previously insane profit margins on hardware are giving them a much bigger cushion than other companies, and they aren't yet at a point where they need to raise prices.
 
We have the "ONE" - NEO to save us 😉 so do whatever you want M $, I will stay with Mac. The Neo is the cheapest one and no quality compromised on the market now
 
ab2c4 said:
I would not buy another Surface regardless of price. It has always been low quality hardware imo compared to other brands.
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After years of experience on Windows laptops, I actually believe Surface is better than Lenovo, Dell and HP. Both Dell and HP laptops died on me within 2 years, and fans were always loud. blame on Intel? Lenovo's is no where better than HP. All the Windows laptop makers are trying to implement something new that I will never use. They still dont understand how to keep it simple and better user experience, wasting a lot of CPU cycles on the useless software is dumb and making the laptop warmer. Surface on the other hand has been holding well but still limited to the crappy Windows. macOS and MacBook Pro are still the best. I have my 2006 MacBook Pro with me and it's still working well, just slow with spinning drive.
 
MilaM said:
The schadenfreude hilarious. Do you really think Apple will sacrifice gross margins to keep the prices stable?
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So you saying it is matter of time before Apple ups the prices again?

coolfactor said:
For eons, people complained about Apple devices having less RAM than the competition. I frequently pointed out that more RAM was not a good thing because it just causes software bloat. Developers are lazy! Apple stood strong on being very conservative in the RAM department, and made sure macOS and iOS ran really well in less memory.

(AI is a different story because loading models locally requires more RAM than typical)

Here we are... RAM has become a global crisis, and Apple products are well-positioned to run smoothly in less RAM by design.
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I don’t think we will go back to 8 GB standard basic configuration.

thelion7 said:
Amazing, since the launch of the MacBook Neo a clear market disrupter for their budget laptop market.

Microsoft's response is, raise prices.

I suppose they have to fund their AI slop somehow....
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Microsoft does not care about making a laptop that can compete with Neo.
 
carestudio said:
After years of experience on Windows laptops, I actually believe Surface is better than Lenovo, Dell and HP. Both Dell and HP laptops died on me within 2 years, and fans were always loud. blame on Intel? Lenovo's is no where better than HP. All the Windows laptop makers are trying to implement something new that I will never use. They still dont understand how to keep it simple and better user experience, wasting a lot of CPU cycles on the useless software is dumb and making the laptop warmer. Surface on the other hand has been holding well but still limited to the crappy Windows. macOS and MacBook Pro are still the best. I have my 2006 MacBook Pro with me and it's still working well, just slow with spinning drive.
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From my personal experience with multiple windows based laptop brands at home and at work (I work in IT) I have found HP and Surface devices to be the lowest quality.
 
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Hahaha. Can Microsoft just die please. Admittedly I’ve no experience with them since the early 2000s but man they abused their monopoly with crappy products for too long back then. Have they done anything worthwhile since??
 
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wyliej said:
The Surface product line isn't really competition, though.

The tablets have always been worse versions of the Ipad.

The laptops have always had all of the worst features of Apple laptops (bad keyboards, poor connectivity, non-repairability, expensive) without any of the advantages.

The desktop thing was cool, but should have just been a monitor and not an awesome LCD panel permanently attached to an underpowered and overpriced computer.

Almost everyone who needs a Windows or Linux device would be best served by pretty much anything other than an MS Surface.
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Whether it's good or not isn't really the question--although it's relevant. But the bottom line is how much money people are spending on Surface products, because that is money not being spent on Apple products, which in turn drives Apple to work for that money (btw, there are other reasons competition needs to exist too, not just better innovation). Of course, the Surface product line by itself isn't Apple's competition. It's one slice of the bigger pie of Windows and Android products, which are Apple's competition. It was one of the more significant slices however, so if it falls it will hurt the balance of competition until (hopefully) something else comes up in its place.
 
It is the year 2026 and MS Windows still fails me at nearly all compute serious tasks. They need to lower their prices and beg consumers to buy these incapable products let alone increase the prices. Never paid them and never will pay them.
 
rp2011 said:
I get what you're saying, just saying economics doesn't work like that
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IT works just like the Dot com era. It's coming around again for the Ai Era. Bubble bursting soon. I know how economics works. Billions in and millions out is not good economics. OpenAI will be the first domino to fall, followed by anthropic, Perplexity and finally MS and the other big players will mainly bail. The money needed to run it is not near what the ROI is, and that will be it's well deserved downfall. Hope you didn't invest long term. Just ask the poor saps who invested in MS stocks.
 
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Steve Adams said:
IT works just like the Dot com era. It's coming around again for the Ai Era. Bubble bursting soon. I know how economics works. Billions in and millions out is not good economics. OpenAI will be the first domino to fall, followed by anthropic, Perplexity and finally MS and the other big players will mainly bail. The money needed to run it is not near what the ROI is, and that will be it's well deserved downfall. Hope you didn't invest long term. Just ask the poor saps who invested in MS stocks.
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What was the Dot com era?
 
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Never thought I’d see the day where Apple devices are not only some of the most affordable but also much better and faster. If only Apple could fix Liquid Ass, we’d be all set.
 
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