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Fanboys are a bit annoying...

I have an IPad, and iOS is behind other platforms in terms of overall functions usability, and available APIs for devs. Sorry, it is.. But with that said, "It's all about the apps". And iOS apps themselves are still a bit more plentiful and polished.

Can you enlighten us as to what ways the iPad is behind the other platforms that you own, use and are developing for?
 
On the lighter side, the guy sitting on other end could have browsed the excel file! :D
This ad appears to be cooked up situation by M$ :cool:
 
Football would have been a more relevant sport to put in this ad. Why? Because all that Microsoft has been doing for the past couple of years is LAUNCHING HAIL MARYS.

Releasing half baked products and highlighting gimmicky features doesn't make them a winner. It makes them a sad story. I feel bad seeing these commercials now know that MS and the PC industry are heading for the toilet on the express train.
 
Bit of a BS example since any scout would look up that info and know it before even deciding to make the call.

Not to mention I'm pretty sure you switch from Facetime and the audio keeps going just fine (as long as you arent trying to play or record audio) which would make the ad false advertising

He's using Skype, which is a bad idea in general. And, as someone else said, why do you need to see the other guy's face to look at the stats? A human can only focus on one thing at a time anyway. Multitasking is useful when you want to drag stuff between apps or view things side-by-side for comparison.

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If this were true:

Then this would NOT be true.

No. He's saying that iOS doesn't give the devs as many options, but the apps turn out better anyway. They're not mutually exclusive. It's not really surprising because we're talking about Java hackers and pros porting stuff to Android vs pros.
 
No. He's saying that iOS doesn't give the devs as many options, but the apps turn out better anyway. It's not really surprising because we're talking about Java hackers and pros porting stuff to Android vs pros.

Disclaimer: I develop for iOS. Professionally.

iOS developers are not, as a whole, more magical or competent than other sets of developers. If iOS apps on average are more polished then that is a function of the APIs available to the devs.

There is more money in the App Store, true, and therefore more developers. But to make the assertion that the SDK is somehow lacking is ignorant. True, you are limited to doing thing the Apple Way, but that doesn't mean the API's are 'behind'.
 
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If this were true:

Then this would NOT be true.

There is more that just in-app functionality. Apps have very limited access to APIs and the OS when the app is in the "background" (or at least Apple's current meaning of it).

For example. Chatheads in FB.. Apple would not allow this type of functionality throughout iOS. Google voice direct calling from the dialer. You have to go into the app to make a call. While on other platforms you can integrate google voice (or Skype) dialing throughout the OS for a seamless experience. This is just 2 examples.. I'm sure if I thought about it more, I could get a lengthy list.

Fact is, Apple wants to handhold and control the user experience. Fortunately I am jailbroken so devs can circumvent Apple's locked down OS and I can write my own tweaks to customize the phone the way I want. This in Apple's mind was necessary, especially early on, due to hardware and battery constraints. But with the newer idevices this isn't as big of a constraint anymore. My heavily moded IP5 has 90% of the battery life with no noticeable lag or slowdown over stock.
 
Did they not watch the WWDC keynote?

I'm sure they watched it and then did some digging and understand that real multi-tasking is not coming in ios7 no matter what spin was given at WWDC.

Plenty of info on it out there.
 
There is more that just in-app functionality. Apps have very limited access to APIs and the OS when the app is in the "background" (or at least Apple's current meaning of it).

For example. Chatheads in FB.. Apple would not allow this type of functionality throughout iOS. Google voice direct calling from the dialer. You have to go into the app to make a call. While on other platforms you can integrate google voice (or Skype) dialing throughout the OS for a seamless experience. This is just 2 examples.. I'm sure if I thought about it more, I could get a lengthy list.

Fact is, Apple wants to handhold and control the user experience. Fortunately I am jailbroken so devs can circumvent Apple's locked down OS and I can write my own tweaks to customize the phone the way I want.

Apple wants to control the experience for sure. It's what sells hardware. It also wants to protect user privacy to some degree, or at least guard what access an app can have. They'll get sued over it otherwise if they don't...
 
If I understand it correctly, it is more related to the hardware design rather than software right? iOS should be able to do multitasking just the HW might not be able to support?
 
Que the angry comments against Microsoft. Apple did Mac v PC, Microsoft actually have the balls to do something similar: Let them.

That's true, a lot of people here are clearly here to whine when MS attacks Apple. However, the "Mac vs PC" ads in general had way more legitimate arguments, especially the MagSafe one, and most of them were pretty classy (except for the stupid music).
 
Apple wants to control the experience for sure. It's what sells hardware. It also wants to protect user privacy to some degree, or at least guard what access an app can have. They'll get sued over it otherwise if they don't...

Right, there is a degree of security.. iOS is moving in the right direction with iOS7. But the platform itself, as a developer, is much more locked down than other platforms thereby diminishing some of the usability of the end-user and creativeness of app developers. I have a dev preview of iOS7, haven't bothered to install it and lose my JB. But I have read about some of the newer APIs, and it's promising, but not there yet.
 
Yeah right, iPad can't do more than one thing at a time... watch this :rolleyes:

YouTube: video

it's not multitasking, he still do one one things at once, multitasking is make 2 or more things together, ios is not capable.
this is one of side effect of ios7 "monostasking":

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There is more that just in-app functionality. Apps have very limited access to APIs and the OS when the app is in the "background" (or at least Apple's current meaning of it).

For example. Chatheads in FB.. Apple would not allow this type of functionality throughout iOS. Google voice direct calling from the dialer. You have to go into the app to make a call. While on other platforms you can integrate google voice (or Skype) dialing throughout the OS for a seamless experience. This is just 2 examples.. I'm sure if I thought about it more, I could get a lengthy list.

Fact is, Apple wants to handhold and control the user experience. ..snip... .

This is a GOOD THING.
This makes it easy for devs, easy for users, and, as demonstrated by the state of the App Store, immensely profitable for all involved.
 
Yep. IME if a company has to resort to slagging off the competition to promote its products, it usually means that their products aren't very good.

Let me guess, somehow you can justify in your mind the Mac vs PC ads were somehow different.
 
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