I just wish it would stop asking me to enter my product key every time I use it. I've only used it three times, and each time, I have to dig out the box and type in that key. WTF?
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Microsoft Releases Office for Mac 2011 14.0.2
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Bug in template handling by Powerpoint
I am still experiencing a bug in the German version of Powerpoint 2011 where, when I try to apply a design-template to an existing powerpoint presentation - changes in the document fonts are not applied.
The same template works fine in Office2008. Also the Master-View shows the right fonts - only they are not applied to the actual slides.
I got confirmation from the German Microsoft Support team, that they where able to reproduce the bug. However, they told me that they had no high hopes that their bug report will be heard in the US, because they already had a number of cases where the US team failed to acknowledge the problem.
I am still experiencing a bug in the German version of Powerpoint 2011 where, when I try to apply a design-template to an existing powerpoint presentation - changes in the document fonts are not applied.
The same template works fine in Office2008. Also the Master-View shows the right fonts - only they are not applied to the actual slides.
I got confirmation from the German Microsoft Support team, that they where able to reproduce the bug. However, they told me that they had no high hopes that their bug report will be heard in the US, because they already had a number of cases where the US team failed to acknowledge the problem.
I always think its a bit funny when people talk about iWork taking over the market from Office. Here is a bit of historical context (if my memory doesn't fail me):
A long, long time ago there was a product called AppleWorks GS, and I'm not referring to the suite that existing just prior to iWork '09. AppleWorks was the predecessor to ClarisWorks, which was a solid piece of word processing software in the early 90's. It was re-written from the ground up, and was a great product. It was also selling quite well.
Over the years (and versions) ClarisWorks was later renamed AppleWorks (again), which was later renamed iWork. It seems that every time a new version is released, people identify it as the last nail in the Microsoft Office coffin. I just don't see it.
A long, long time ago there was a product called AppleWorks GS, and I'm not referring to the suite that existing just prior to iWork '09. AppleWorks was the predecessor to ClarisWorks, which was a solid piece of word processing software in the early 90's. It was re-written from the ground up, and was a great product. It was also selling quite well.
Over the years (and versions) ClarisWorks was later renamed AppleWorks (again), which was later renamed iWork. It seems that every time a new version is released, people identify it as the last nail in the Microsoft Office coffin. I just don't see it.
iWork has no place in a world dominated by MS Office requiring extensive document exchanges.
It never will.
Yes, yes, we know. Serious Business Users use Office, the fanbois and amateurs use iWorks.....lol *yawn*
I seem to recall the MS crowd being similarly dismissive of the iPhone....iPad...Apple itself....strangely, not quite so smug anymore.
Office is the ad hoc standard, but it sure as hell isn't due to its quality, simply its pervasiveness. I've found that in our company (28,000 employees) content creation has nearly been divorced completely from content consumption by the adoption of pdf as the intermediary. So more and more employees ARE switching to iWork for the majority of their simple document creation because more and more are switching platforms to Apple, and then simply using what's easiest. Hate to tell you, but you don't need Word to make a memo or bulletin, and you don't need Excel to make a simple graph.
Of course if there is a collaborative document, and the suite is Office, that's what used. And Excel is much more of a mature product. But I love how the niche power users claim that as proof of the unassailable position of Office.
Comparing Appleworks and the state of affairs at that point in time is kinda....pointless. It's a totally different world at this point with the "i-ecosytem" and the exponential growth of AAPL, inc.
I seem to recall the MS crowd being similarly dismissive of the iPhone....iPad...Apple itself....strangely, not quite so smug anymore.
Office is the ad hoc standard, but it sure as hell isn't due to its quality, simply its pervasiveness. I've found that in our company (28,000 employees) content creation has nearly been divorced completely from content consumption by the adoption of pdf as the intermediary. So more and more employees ARE switching to iWork for the majority of their simple document creation because more and more are switching platforms to Apple, and then simply using what's easiest. Hate to tell you, but you don't need Word to make a memo or bulletin, and you don't need Excel to make a simple graph.
Of course if there is a collaborative document, and the suite is Office, that's what used. And Excel is much more of a mature product. But I love how the niche power users claim that as proof of the unassailable position of Office.
Comparing Appleworks and the state of affairs at that point in time is kinda....pointless. It's a totally different world at this point with the "i-ecosytem" and the exponential growth of AAPL, inc.
Yep. That about sums it up.
What does this have to do with Office?
I snipped the rest of your post because the above statement pretty much settles it.
I can't believe people even use these 2 products in the same sentence.
I use Office. I don't use it for Serious Business as I'm a chef and my job does not require Office. I use it because I like to remain compatible with the rest of the world.
Ye ye ye... we all know iWork can open and save Office documents. But it sucks. I think OpenOffice has better MS Office compatibility.
2011 is better than 2008. However, It still doesn't run as smoothly as the average Mac app. It also dumps a tonne of rubbish in your home folder, which kinda bugs me. The ribbon is taking some getting used to as well. It's time Microsoft upped the game a bit. Anyone else seems to be able to make a Mac app without it being jerky and slow. And please just shove the M$ User Data folder in the Library folder out of the way!
Yes, I have used the iWork apps for the iPad, and I would describe it as a toy-level "office suite". Pages is about as useful and poweful as the Microsoft WordPad accessory that comes bundled with Windows, so please stop fooling yourself and others. There is absolutely nothing amazing about those iWork apps that barely have more functionality than Microsoft's free Word/Excel/Powerpoint viewers for Windows.
And by the time iWork for Mac OS X has matured to a degree where it can seriously compete with TODAY'S Microsoft Office suite, we will all long be dead and buried. Microsoft is about twenty years ahead of Apple when it comes to business software. And because Apple knows that it cannot compete with Microsoft in the enterprise/business/computer game market, Apple now exclusively and successfully focuses on certain parts of the consumer market where Microsoft is not a dominant player.
And Apple certainly loves how those "power users" waste their money on an additional application suite that serves no real world purpose, because in the real world those same powe users will be using a Microsoft product to get the work done.
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As a mainly Windows users until recently I was keen to try this out, but am very disappointed with the ability (or lack of) Outllook to sync with either MobileMe or Google.
It works fine on Windows under Outlook 2010 and I much prefer Outlook to using Mail, iCal and Address Book and have not found any other all-in-one solutions.
It works fine on Windows under Outlook 2010 and I much prefer Outlook to using Mail, iCal and Address Book and have not found any other all-in-one solutions.
I am a Red Hat certified linux admin by trade. I've been doing it for about 10 years. Currently I am on a contract with a company that has a completely MS only everything office. All the procedure documents are written in MS office 2003. All the spreadsheets are MS Excel. They use Exchange 2010 with Outlook for E-mail, contacts, and calendars. etc....
At one point I was trying to work from a computer they issued me using Windows XP with MS Office 2007. I had a lot of compatibility issue trying to edit the docs, (originally written in MS Office 2003.) Excels would go from being one page to 6, dates would become decimals, Word docs would loose their formatting. Outlook 2007 couldn't thread conversations, often attached files poorly and not in-line with the message, it would messed the formatting of messages, and had no working search mechanism.
I installed Ubuntu desktop for a little while and OpenOffice just kind of screwed up every single document I tried to work on, similar to the 2003 to 2007 issues. Forget exchange access.
Now I use a MBA with mail.app, Address Book, iCal, and iWork. They work a lot better for me. The only real compatibility issue I've had was that I needed to get the fonts used by MS Office. iWork works great for office use. Not only that, but the iWork templates look more professional and better then the boiler plate templates MS Office has.
At one point I was trying to work from a computer they issued me using Windows XP with MS Office 2007. I had a lot of compatibility issue trying to edit the docs, (originally written in MS Office 2003.) Excels would go from being one page to 6, dates would become decimals, Word docs would loose their formatting. Outlook 2007 couldn't thread conversations, often attached files poorly and not in-line with the message, it would messed the formatting of messages, and had no working search mechanism.
I installed Ubuntu desktop for a little while and OpenOffice just kind of screwed up every single document I tried to work on, similar to the 2003 to 2007 issues. Forget exchange access.
Now I use a MBA with mail.app, Address Book, iCal, and iWork. They work a lot better for me. The only real compatibility issue I've had was that I needed to get the fonts used by MS Office. iWork works great for office use. Not only that, but the iWork templates look more professional and better then the boiler plate templates MS Office has.
Honestly, I don't mind 2011 that much. It's a lot smoother of a program. For me at least, I don't really know about everyone else. However there are still some issues with it. For some dumb reason they got rid of the search and find tool in Word. You now have to use "find and replace" lol. But besides that, it seems to be a pretty solid program. It has a bit quicker response time, smoother action during use, and the like. Still some flaws, but we can pretend Microsoft will get it right one day
The orginal search and replace dialog box is still available (barely) in the Edit/Search/last item Detailed Search? (not sure what the English version is, I am running a Japanese version). But you can assign a shortcut key (the EditSearchDialog or similar, under the Edit menu), I assigned Control Command F and it works.Honestly, I don't mind 2011 that much. It's a lot smoother of a program. For me at least, I don't really know about everyone else. However there are still some issues with it. For some dumb reason they got rid of the search and find tool in Word. You now have to use "find and replace" lol. But besides that, it seems to be a pretty solid program. It has a bit quicker response time, smoother action during use, and the like. Still some flaws, but we can pretend Microsoft will get it right one day
There is also the sidebar Search and replace item (using the old key combo, Shift Command F) which I find to be a limited version of the Dialog box.
Enabling the formatting toolbar, adding a few necessary icons, and collapsing the Ribbon (Command Option R) will make the interface bearable/almost good enough.
Except for one crash that I can't explain, Word 2011 has been better than the old 2004 version and much better than the disaster 2008 was.
Everyone has their own opinion, but as long as the industry is dependent on the use of Excel and Word, I will struggle along.....
I use Keynote for my presentations, but for writing I prefer to do the creation in Scrivener 2 and the final copy in Nisus Writer Pro.
I have Office for Mac 2011 and use it from time to time, but Word just doesn't cut it as a Word Processor anymore.
I work with thousands of documents so having a good WP is essential.
Very few serious writers use Word. Scrivener, Mellel, Mariner Write, Nisus Writer Pro, Pages - All are better.
Funny, I have a 6 figure salary and use Keynote and Scrivener. My secretary uses Office ...
My Microsoft AutoUpdate still says it hasn't found Office 2011 installed on my drive
Did you rename Office? Mine didn't update because I changed the name from "Microsoft Office 2011" to "Office 2011." Once I put the full name back, it updated.
Nah, I left it as it is. Will try reinstalling it, maybe it has to do sth with previous version, or me deleting some of the apps from the O11 package.
I use Keynote for my presentations, but for writing I prefer to do the creation in Scrivener 2 and the final copy in Nisus Writer Pro.
I have Office for Mac 2011 and use it from time to time, but Word just doesn't cut it as a Word Processor anymore.
I work with thousands of documents so having a good WP is essential.
Thanks for the tip about Nisus. The Express version is all I need.
Reinstalling solved the problem. However, I removed the Outlook, Comuncator, Messenger and Remote Desktop Connection apps at the first time and that seems to bother AutoUpdate.
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Yeah I'm wondering if it will ever sync wiu MobileMe? Guess Microsoft doesn't want Mac users to have he complete Mac experience using their software.
Yeah I'm wondering if it will ever sync wiu MobileMe? Guess Microsoft doesn't want Mac users to have he complete Mac experience using their software.
well...I jumped
because my job offered a ridiculously cheap price under their MS HUP (Home Use program). $23.85 with the back up dvd...
Whether or not I use 2011 for school is an unknown at this point, but we'll see.
because my job offered a ridiculously cheap price under their MS HUP (Home Use program). $23.85 with the back up dvd...
Whether or not I use 2011 for school is an unknown at this point, but we'll see.
Yep. I was stunned to see this error the first time, struggling to find the autoupdate window under the update window
Truly stupid and under the window,duh?
Makes you wonder if MS ever updates their own stuff like the rest of us?
Plenty of reviews recommending to wait until it reaches 15 to be less full of bugs.
But, Word, Excel and Powerpoint are the mainstays 95% out there use.