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The fact that my friend's home-written trojan passed all three isn't really reassuring, is it? (Besides, they don't offer for free for anything other than personal use...)

Maybe you should try Nod32 (the only one who caught it..). Oh, wait. You don't *have* to use Windows, right?
 
Microsoft seem to point out flaws that don't exist

Or deliberately create ads where customers demand things from Apple that Apple don't make. It would be like me stating that PC's suck because I can't find a laptop with a 12.75234inch screen or claiming that because I can't get a laptop with wheels on the bottom of it so it can double as a skate board that Dell aren't listening to their customers.

I'm being totally honest here, I haven't talked to a single regular home user who has asked for a 17inch laptop. Walk through a university campus and the vast majority either have netbooks or 12 or 13.3 Notebooks. When I'm waiting in line at big name retailers, the vast majority of people I see are purchasing 12 - 13.3 inch notebooks - and these are people from all demographics.
 
Anything that can't play, author, and burn blu-ray is every bit past its sell-by date as Steve Jobs is, and a piece of crap as well, and I don't care who makes it.

:apple:

then all Apple machines are crap. Enjoy your Wintel.

cause Jobs has said that Blu-ray was 'a bag of hurt' (probably due to the license fees that Apple would still have to pay even with him on the board), they are running a huge business for downloaded HD etc. so don't expect to see built in Blu-ray any time soon.

also, it might not be built in, but there are external burners and software that work just fine. I would dare say that most folks that do any real burning of any disks have Toast already and it handles Blu-ray burning very nicely.

These commercials are horrendous.

OTOH, I'll only buy another Mac once they can play avi and mkv files properly.

you haven't looked that hard have you. less than 5 minutes with google took me to

http://perian.org

quicktime component for
File formats: AVI, DIVX, FLV, MKV, GVI, VP6, and VFW
Video types: MS-MPEG4 v1 & v2, DivX, 3ivx, H.264, Sorenson H.263, FLV/Sorenson Spark, FSV1, VP6, H263i, VP3, HuffYUV, FFVHuff, MPEG1 & MPEG2 Video, Fraps, Snow, NuppelVideo, Techsmith Screen Capture, DosBox Capture
Audio types: Windows Media Audio v1 & v2, Flash ADPCM, Xiph Vorbis (in Matroska), and MPEG Layer I & II Audio, True Audio, DTS Coherent Acoustics, Nellymoser ASAO
AVI support for: AAC, AC3 Audio, H.264, MPEG4, and VBR MP3
Subtitle support for SSA/ASS and SRT
 
then all Apple machines are crap. Enjoy your Wintel.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I've been sitting on $10,000 for a tricked-out Mac Pro for 3, going on 4 years now. And yes, I do run windows XP on my USED 2.33 MATTE screen iMac 24" to AUTHOR and PROOF Blu-ray discs on my external burner.

Apple will not EVER get another single penny from me until they are up to speed on Blu-ray. If that means never, so be it and good riddance.

It took a mere 5 years for me to go from being another rabid Apple fanboi with a cutting-edge computer to a disgruntled user with the only current desktop offerings outdated crap, or iCrap iToys which I have no interest or need for whatsoever.

And I and my griping are the tip of the iceberg; most professional content creators have already left Apple and don't even bother to complain anymore.

Furthermore; Jobs' fantasies of an internet bandwith infrastructure that can support 40-gig downloads in less than several days in THIS Depression are as likely as a long life. The government has been already looking for ways to shut the net and all filesharing down for a decade now, and sooner or later, they will.

Just wait until the iCrap division gets some real Chinese competition at half the price.

Bankruptcy: Now THAT'S a REAL bag of hurt.

:apple:
 
I couldn't have said it better myself. I've been sitting on $10,000 for a tricked-out Mac Pro for 3, going on 4 years now. And yes, I do run windows XP on my USED 2.33 MATTE screen iMac 24" to AUTHOR and PROOF Blu-ray discs on my external burner.

Apple will not EVER get another single penny from me until they are up to speed on Blu-ray. If that means never, so be it and good riddance.

It took a mere 5 years for me to go from being another rabid Apple fanboi with a cutting-edge computer to a disgruntled user with the only current desktop offerings outdated crap, or iCrap iToys which I have no interest or need for whatsoever.

And I and my griping are the tip of the iceberg; most professional content creators have already left Apple and don't even bother to complain anymore.

Furthermore; Jobs' fantasies of an internet bandwith infrastructure that can support 40-gig downloads in less than several days in THIS Depression are as likely as a long life. The government has been already looking for ways to shut the net and all filesharing down for a decade now, and sooner or later, they will.

Just wait until the iCrap division gets some real Chinese competition at half the price.

Bankruptcy: Now THAT'S a REAL bag of hurt.

:apple:

Yes, because BluRay is 'oh so important' to so many people out there *rolls eyes* - nice to see you ignore that the vast majority of computers still being sold still fail to include BluRay writer as standard and the media is still insanely expensive. But hey, you keep deluding yourself that you represent 'all of human kind'.
 
I couldn't have said it better myself. I've been sitting on $10,000 for a tricked-out Mac Pro for 3, going on 4 years now. And yes, I do run windows XP on my USED 2.33 MATTE screen iMac 24" to AUTHOR and PROOF Blu-ray discs on my external burner.

Apple will not EVER get another single penny from me until they are up to speed on Blu-ray. If that means never, so be it and good riddance.

It took a mere 5 years for me to go from being another rabid Apple fanboi with a cutting-edge computer to a disgruntled user with the only current desktop offerings outdated crap, or iCrap iToys which I have no interest or need for whatsoever.

And I and my griping are the tip of the iceberg; most professional content creators have already left Apple and don't even bother to complain anymore.

Furthermore; Jobs' fantasies of an internet bandwith infrastructure that can support 40-gig downloads in less than several days in THIS Depression are as likely as a long life. The government has been already looking for ways to shut the net and all filesharing down for a decade now, and sooner or later, they will.

Just wait until the iCrap division gets some real Chinese competition at half the price.

Bankruptcy: Now THAT'S a REAL bag of hurt.

:apple:
wtf :confused:
 
Yes, because BluRay is 'oh so important' to so many people out there *rolls eyes* - nice to see you ignore that the vast majority of computers still being sold still fail to include BluRay writer as standard and the media is still insanely expensive. But hey, you keep deluding yourself that you represent 'all of human kind'.

maybe not standard but at least there is an option and the OS supports it. That is the more abysmal portion

then all Apple machines are crap. Enjoy your Wintel.

cause Jobs has said that Blu-ray was 'a bag of hurt' (probably due to the license fees that Apple would still have to pay even with him on the board), they are running a huge business for downloaded HD etc. so don't expect to see built in Blu-ray any time soon.

please don't call that super compressed crap HD content from iTunes, there is no way that can compare to Blu Ray.

They're comparing new to new, so a refurb Mac is meaningless.

And that's only because a "refurb" PC doesn't exist. They break before people have a chance to return them. :rolleyes:

i see your sarcasm and raise you one more
 
most professional content creators have already left Apple and don't even bother to complain anymore.

O RLY?

are as likely as a long life.

Classy.

Just wait until the iCrap division gets some real Chinese competition at half the price.

I'm waiting for the Chinese to come up with a single original idea. Please let me know when they do.

Bankruptcy: Now THAT'S a REAL bag of hurt.

BluRay will bankrupt Sony long before it bankrupts Apple.
 
maybe not standard but at least there is an option and the OS supports it. That is the more abysmal portion

If you want it - go and purchase a PC running Windows Vista which has the wonderful CPU hogging 'Secure Path' required for playing HD BluRay.

Go on, get a PC - because I don't want Mac OS X being castrated to the point that I end up experiencing a drop in computing performance simply to cater for your desire to have BluRay.

Oh, and btw, you can burn BluRay movies to a BluRay disc if you need to - the only downside is you can't play back encrypted content; if you have enough money to purchase a BluRay writer and the media, you have enough money to purchase a copy of Toast along with the necessary plugin required:

http://www.roxio.com/eng/products/toast/plugin/overview.html
 
macintoshtoffy are you sure about the CPU hogging bit?

Look at the paranoid DRM setup within Windows - and tell me it isn't a drag on the system. Sure, have protection when and where required but the whole system from top to bottom shouldn't be embedded with DRM that the performance and battery life of a laptop suffers as a result.

HD-DVD should have won - had it won we would be talking about region free movies rather than the situation with Sony's tentacles all over it, we would be talking about low cost writers instead of still paying a fortune for them and the media, and better still, we'd be talking about how one can watch HD-DVD on our Mac's because it wouldn't require performance sucking 'secure path' just to watch a movie.
 
Look at the paranoid DRM setup within Windows - and tell me it isn't a drag on the system. Sure, have protection when and where required but the whole system from top to bottom shouldn't be embedded with DRM that the performance and battery life of a laptop suffers as a result.

HD-DVD should have won - had it won we would be talking about region free movies rather than the situation with Sony's tentacles all over it, we would be talking about low cost writers instead of still paying a fortune for them and the media, and better still, we'd be talking about how one can watch HD-DVD on our Mac's because it wouldn't require performance sucking 'secure path' just to watch a movie.

Nope. If HD-DVD won everyone would be complaining about Microsoft instead of Sony. Plus at the time everyone swore up and down that Bluray is superior because Apple supported it. Now that there is no support from Apple Bluray isn't anything special.
 
Look at the paranoid DRM setup within Windows - and tell me it isn't a drag on the system. Sure, have protection when and where required but the whole system from top to bottom shouldn't be embedded with DRM that the performance and battery life of a laptop suffers as a result.

HD-DVD should have won - had it won we would be talking about region free movies rather than the situation with Sony's tentacles all over it, we would be talking about low cost writers instead of still paying a fortune for them and the media, and better still, we'd be talking about how one can watch HD-DVD on our Mac's because it wouldn't require performance sucking 'secure path' just to watch a movie.

and what are you basing this "performance sucking secure path" on? Either way its over 2,400 comments about a Microsoft commercial on a Mac website. Mission accomplished.
 
Nope. If HD-DVD won everyone would be complaining about Microsoft instead of Sony. Plus at the time everyone swore up and down that Bluray is superior because Apple supported it. Now that there is no support from Apple Bluray isn't anything special.

From what I understand, I thought Apple was sitting on both sides.

Regarding BluRay - I just had a look, they could support it without 'Secure Path' but it wouldn't be the top-top high def available though; would people be happy with BluRay playback but the definition not as good as it would be on Windows?

For me, I don't watch DVD's on my iMac or MacBook so it's not really a thing I can answer.
 
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