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Pretty good ad, but the product is terrible. For one thing, you don't get anywhere near 64GB on it, only 30GB.

Though a foreign concept to many iOS users, this particular Windows 8 tab has a micro sd card slot for portable, expandable storage.
 
great ad, great points.

The biggest blind spot in Apples iOS approach is that its all about simple consumption and limits the true productive flexibility of legacy computers.
This ad makes that point, and well.

Seems to me the average consumer will see this ad and think how cool it is they can play the piano on their iPad. People want to do fun things on their tablet not edit PowerPoint documents.
 
The thing that always irks me when I watch ads that attack Apple is they always go for price.

They like to rub in the overused idea that Apple products are always more expensive by, in this case, using one of the highest spec-ed options and saying, "Look how expensive the iPad is," when it's actually a very reasonably priced tablet.

Funny, yes. But still kinda skewed. But I guess that's advertising.

For comparable hardware specs, the iPad does cost more than Microsoft's stuff. I think the iPad is reasonably priced, and then Microsoft goes cheap. But if you want cheap, there's Android! It's basically Windows but much, much better.
 
One runs a mobile OS, the other runs a full OS pretending to be a mobile OS. Yes there's a difference, but there would be too if the iPad ran OS X.
 
Though a foreign concept to many iOS users, this particular Windows 8 tab has a micro sd card slot for portable, expandable storage.

micro sd cards though are not that fabulous with their meagre 30mbps transfer rate, ok it's a class 10 with a max of 64gb, but still not a strong selling point. Changing memory cards for anything else other than a camera seems so like April 2002
 
micro sd cards though are not that fabulous with their meagre 30mbps transfer rate, ok it's a class 10 with a max of 64gb, but still not a strong selling point. Changing memory cards for anything else other than a camera seems so like April 2002

Nah, I actually like the idea of MicroSD card slots. If you buy the wrong capacity Apple device, you're stuck! That's besides the point anyway. If the OS takes up 30GB, that's a really bad thing for reasons other than just losing a lot of storage.
 
Have you ever used Pages? If you were going to bash iWork, it would make sense to bash Numbers. I switched to iWork in 2008 and have been using Pages happily after that, but I have to use Excel a lot because Numbers sucks.

iWork for iOS wasn't out in 2008

We're talking tablets here, right?
 
iWork for iOS wasn't out in 2008

We're talking tablets here, right?

Oh right, the tablet version. It's still important to have a good desktop version because iWork for iOS is meant to work with it through iCloud.

It's the same story on iOS. Pages on iOS has everything necessary, and Numbers sucks. Have you actually tried the iOS Pages and found things that people would need that it doesn't have?
 
Pretty unbelievable how all these inferior, wannabe companies start bashing Apple via public ads, like a bullying gangup, shortly after Steve dies. They ought to be ashamed.

Apple gets so much free press, it's no wonder they don't need to spend as much marketing as the others. All these idiot competitors don't even need to come up with a good and clever ad, they can just "bash Apple".

America, wake up, you have the most successful, inspirational and game changing company in history as one of your own, and you're trying to "take it down" via jealous, envious mean-spirited bullying.
 
Surface Pro w/ keyboard = $1100
iPad w/ cover = $550

:confused:
Price ≠ functionality.

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Pretty unbelievable how all these inferior, wannabe companies start bashing Apple via public ads, like a bullying gangup, shortly after Steve dies. They ought to be ashamed.

Apple gets so much free press, it's no wonder they don't need to spend as much marketing as the others. All these idiot competitors don't even need to come up with a good and clever ad, they can just "bash Apple".

America, wake up, you have the most successful, inspirational and game changing company in history as one of your own, and you're trying to "take it down" via jealous, envious mean-spirited bullying.

While Apple has had innovation, they still did the Mac vs. PC ads. I thought the ad was nice but in the end the better product will prevail. Let's see.
 
iPad apps? 300,000

Windows? 3000

Pwned.

(First, I have to say that I am a huge Apple fan.)

Now, let's get to business. No, they really aren't Pwned.

I cannot stand when Apple fans try to throw the number of apps in people's faces. Why? Because it is the exact same tactic that PC fans used against the Mac in the late 90s and early 2000s. "Windows has more software titles....blah, blah, blah." And, the retort from Mac fans back then was "sost Windows software titles are junk."

Same story today, just roles reversed. Hypocrisy.
 
Seems like the ad is trying to communicate too much and point out too many flaws/differences. Apple's ads seem to focus on one point and communicate it elegantly.
 
So the ad is telling us that Surface is good for boring drudgery like PowerPoint, while iPad is good for making music.
 
Funny ad, but blatantly misleading. I guess Apple cant complain too much, remember all their mac vs pc commercials where they would imply that PCs had basically no capabilities beyond spreadsheets and calculators.
 
I love Apple as much as the next person but all these ads do have have something in common - they point out just how ancient the iOS interface looks. So much potential wasted.

I hate Windows 8 with a passion. However, the interface in the commercial just looks so much fresher and "nicer" than the iPad. Same with Android.

It's time for Apple to refresh if they want to stay relevant and valid.
 

It's amusing that the iPad is what created a mass market for these tablets when all manufacturers had previously struggled to find anyone interested in buying them. The reason for that still exists today - a tablet cannot just be a laptop without keyboard and reduced screen real estate. Jobs knew this, and it's why he resisted making one until they'd revolutionised the very concept of a tablet. Yes, the iPad struggles as a productivity device because it lacks Word, but it's taken over the mobile device market because it doesn't pretend to be a complete system w/ full featured OS, not despite it. :apple:
 
Hilarious

I'm a huge Apple fan, but that was pretty good. Even thought they chose to use the priciest ipad
 
Only 3000 Windows app? Mmmk. The VivoTab Smart is Full Windows 8, not RT.

Owned(autocorrected)

Sure, because using vanilla Windows apps on a tablet is great. :rolleyes:

Oh, and great autocorrect displaying your ignorance of the internet.
 
One runs a mobile OS, the other runs a full OS pretending to be a mobile OS. Yes there's a difference, but there would be too if the iPad ran OS X.

The iPad does run OSX.

The only thing missing is AppKit - the set of common controls like NSButton, NSWindow, etc. Those things make no sense on a touch device.

Apple could easily port AppKit to iOS, if it were very much in demand. It's not; in fact the opposite is true - Mac developers have been begging Apple to bring some of UIKit's more modern controls and design patterns over to the Mac.

The reason a few people still go on about iOS being a "mobile OS" is because they find they can't seem to do anything that would traditionally be classified as "work" on them (e.g. writing a report).

That's nothing to do with iOS itself - as iWork demonstrates, it is perfectly possible to build a full-featured editing suite using the available tools on iOS. The reason iWork still sucks is because those kinds of tasks are just fundamentally weak points of a touch device. It's not because developers are missing some section of the operating system that makes writing reports possible.

That's why Android hasn't filled that void for writing documents on tablets (or even phones); even with the slickest swype keyboard you wouldn't be doing 'work' primarily from an Android device.

The only thing Windows 8 has going for it is the Surface's very portable and easily attachable keyboard (and even then, that's a device feature not an ecosystem feature). Even then, the reviews for that keyboard seem to be that it's just 'okay'.
 
What desktop apps can you run on Windows RT?

Office. I have both the Surface RT and the Surface Pro, and RT comes with Office. You get Word, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote. And they are all desktop apps that run in the familiar Windows 8 desktop.

Surface Pro is a full blown PC in the form factor of a tablet. It puts all other tablets to shame as it is an intel core i5. It is extremely fast and once you get used to it, ipad, which I have two of, and every other tab, which I have many, feel slow and stupid.

The base apps in metro are pretty darn good. Simple things like the Bing Travel, or financial apps are better than any app I ever bought on any other tablet. I think a lot of you are talking out of your you-know-whats. Having a full blown computer in tablet form with a Wacom digitizer is awesome. Especially for things like Sketchbook Pro. Basically, it's Cintiq, only better, lighter and all in one.
 
Hi, I'm a Surface,

...and I'm an iPad

Surface Pro w/ keyboard = $1100
iPad w/ cover = $550

:confused:

The Surface Pro isn't what you'd compare to the iPad. That thing is a laptop with a touch screen, essentially. They compare the iPad to the regular Surface in the ad like it should be.

So the ad is telling us that Surface is good for boring drudgery like PowerPoint, while iPad is good for making music.
RTFA That ain't a Surface Anything in the spot, it's an ASUS VivoTab Smart. :rolleyes:
 
Wrong target. Microsoft would do better by going after Android tablets. There's a certain percentage of the population who won't buy anything Apple. Android has a virtual monopoly on that now. Apple customers, by contrast, tend to be loyal.
 
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