Right, however I did state, "Off the shelf". You can't get a Sony Vaio gaming PC with Blu-Ray in the FW line at Best Buy for $1500. Also the FW series comes with the same crap screen as Apple's Unibody Macbook.
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Microsoft Remains on Offensive with 'Apple Tax' Report and Latest Laptop Ad
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Right, however I did state, "Off the shelf". You can't get a Sony Vaio gaming PC with Blu-Ray in the FW line at Best Buy for $1500. Also the FW series comes with the same crap screen as Apple's Unibody Macbook.
Anyone notice that it looks like the same Best Buy as the other commercials. Also, (and I know we already know Lauren is an actor) if Microsoft is paying for the PC, is it any wonder they end up with a PC.
The Apple Tax is only the extra cost it takes to configure the foot-in-the-door list price of a cheap low end PC up to the equivalent specs on a Mac.
Try it, go to dell.com and look at the list prices of the base models, and then start adding all of the missing features to get to equivalent Mac specs. Funny how the price goes way up.
The Apple Tax is only the extra cost it takes to configure the foot-in-the-door list price of a cheap low end PC up to the equivalent specs on a Mac.
Try it, go to dell.com and look at the list prices of the base models, and then start adding all of the missing features to get to equivalent Mac specs. Funny how the price goes way up.
Did you read that 'WindowsTeamBlog' Apple Tax article and actually look at his PDF? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? He throws in every option Apple offers as part of the cost, including 5 years of MobileMe, One to One, and AppleCare (for $60 more than the equivalent Dell Warranty). Oh, and somehow his PC doesn't need Office, Quicken, and 'other software', prices he factored in against the Mac at a price of $289. And let's see, we all know every Mac owner buys an Airport Extreme. Aaaand, upgrades iLife every year. He factors in $70 for that upgrade but fails to mention that the 'equivalent' apps that are crap-loaded on your PC's with just trial versions are good for 30 days and to buy would cost several times more than iLife! Ugh. I know we have lame fanboys on the Apple side of the fence, but that 'official M$ employee blogger' is just sick. Sick sick sick!
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As I was watching this, I was thinking precisely the same thing. Seriously, anyone that wants to do some gaming does not buy Apple. They buy an alienware or something like that. No one in the apple community will be against someone not choosing a Mac for gaming. On the other hand, I dont like all the switchers. So, maybe i hope these ads work.
Why does Microsoft suddenly care that much about Apple?
I thought Apple was just a little blip on their radar?
Are they scared of something?
I remember a time when Apple completely fell of the face of the earth, and most people didn't even know if they still existed. While these ads might damage Apple to some extent, they also "officially" acknowledge their existence as a direct competitor, as a viable alternative...
If anything, we might get the best of both worlds because of these ads. Apple may lower it's prices (up to a point) and awareness of the Apple alternative will rise even more.
I thought Apple was just a little blip on their radar?
Are they scared of something?
I remember a time when Apple completely fell of the face of the earth, and most people didn't even know if they still existed. While these ads might damage Apple to some extent, they also "officially" acknowledge their existence as a direct competitor, as a viable alternative...
If anything, we might get the best of both worlds because of these ads. Apple may lower it's prices (up to a point) and awareness of the Apple alternative will rise even more.
I know, I just noticed my error as soon as I posted it. I need to get some sleep and not post/rant about these ads!
And about the screen, that is why I always spring for the MBP. The MacBooks are great, but I can't go from a beautiful LCD to a crap LCD.
lamest ads ever.
the concept of a kid buying a PC over a MAC due to its gaming capabilities, blu-ray and cost is fair enough, and a worthy point for MS to make snide statements...
but true to the trend of microsoft and its advertising 'gurus'... they executed this so poorly... even a mac person like me could instantly think up a more convincing ad.
a good thing these microsoft ads never reach TV in australia!...
1 out of 10.
the concept of a kid buying a PC over a MAC due to its gaming capabilities, blu-ray and cost is fair enough, and a worthy point for MS to make snide statements...
but true to the trend of microsoft and its advertising 'gurus'... they executed this so poorly... even a mac person like me could instantly think up a more convincing ad.
a good thing these microsoft ads never reach TV in australia!...
1 out of 10.
Ha ha, Microsoft has to PAY people to buy a PC.
To be fair, if Apple said they'd buy me a computer, anyone I wanted, I'd sure as heck let them =p.
I'm not really a Windows HATER, but dang... these commercials are SOO lame!
YES Apple laptops are more expensive, YES they don't have Bluray ... SO WHAT?! Geez... I mean Apple's "i'm a Mac" commercials were far more original and competitive than this lame "I'm a PC" attempt from Microsoft... I just HATE HATE HATE STUPIDDDD!
... sorry I had to vent
YES Apple laptops are more expensive, YES they don't have Bluray ... SO WHAT?! Geez... I mean Apple's "i'm a Mac" commercials were far more original and competitive than this lame "I'm a PC" attempt from Microsoft... I just HATE HATE HATE STUPIDDDD!
... sorry I had to vent
Wow, I hate that word. Thanks for catching me on that...i think...
My favorite OSX trick: difini?[option+esc]tely!
I think it only works in Cocoa apps. Don't quote me on that.
edit: Looks like [esc] by itself is good enough in 10.5. [option+esc] would be the shortcut for 10.3, 10.4 or an upgrade to 10.5. Thanks Telp.
edit2: Looks like F5 does the same thing.
Oh yes, I agree, I would too. If Apple gave me money to buy any computer I wanted I would take the money wholeheartedly. My joke was that it looks like PC's aren't selling well enough so Microsoft has to pay people to take them.
What I love about these commercials is that Microsoft is probably doing us all a big favor in that maybe they can eventually shame (or due to actual loss in sales) Apple into lowering their prices. Let's face it. Their profit margins are way too high. They could easily sell for hundreds less and still make money. Just offering a mid-range tower to compete with the most typical PC configuration for casual use and gaming would be a good start, though....
My favorite OSX trick: difini?[option+escape]tely!
I think it only works in Apple apps. Don't quote me on that.
You only need to hit escape
Oh yes, I agree, I would too. If Apple gave me money to buy any computer I wanted I would take the money wholeheartedly. My joke was that it looks like PC's aren't selling well enough so Microsoft has to pay people to take them.
Hahah. I got what you were saying. I was just pointing out... Giving M$ a litle more credit
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As much as Ballmer says there is no threat, there must be some threat if they're going to these lengths to drive PC sales.
Funny though how it seems Blu-ray was a big decision-making factor in the purchase. Oh and I loved how it needed to be fast so they could look up stuff and then get out to baseball. I would of thought that kind of speed would be dependant on their broadband.
Funny though how it seems Blu-ray was a big decision-making factor in the purchase. Oh and I loved how it needed to be fast so they could look up stuff and then get out to baseball. I would of thought that kind of speed would be dependant on their broadband.
As much as Ballmer says there is no threat, there must be some threat if they're going to these lengths to drive PC sales.
Funny though how it seems Blu-ray was a big decision-making factor in the purchase. Oh and I loved how it needed to be fast so they could look up stuff and then get out to baseball. I would of thought that kind of speed would be dependant on their broadband.
Once again, I was thinking that as well. But then i realized, most people don't understand the difference. To them, fast computer == automatically fast internet.
You want Lame and Unoriginal, look at Apple's 'I'm a Mac' adverts.
Microsoft are just raising awareness of the inconvenient truth.
Mac's are overpriced.
Most here are prepared to swallow that price margin, combined with limited features, poor components, and proven issues regarding build quality. Many without complaining about it.
Personally ANYONE who's prepared to raise awareness of that in the wider public, is doing both Mac AND PC users a genuinely good service.