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Microsoft Remains on Offensive with 'Apple Tax' Report and Latest Laptop Ad
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...Oh and I loved how it needed to be fast so they could look up stuff and then get out to baseball. I would of thought that kind of speed would be dependant on their broadband.
Yah, and sadly, in a year, that laptop will get slower and slower as the registry builds up. People don't realize that about Windows vs. that Macs don't suffer from that particular symptom. Startup gets slower as more startup items are installed, but you don't need to restart your Mac every day or even every month, so it's a moot point.
My favorite OSX trick: difini?[option+esc]tely!
I think it only works in Apple apps. Don't quote me on that.
OH... MY... GOD!
and i thought cmd control 'd' was cool
My favorite OSX trick: difini?[option+esc]tely!
I think it only works in Apple apps. Don't quote me on that.
I didn't know you could do that. Nice find!
You only need to hit escape
As Telp pointed out, it looks like [esc] by itself will do the job (auto-complete) in 10.5. (I think [option+esc] is for 10.3 and 10.4 or an upgrade to 10.5) F5 will also do the trick. Only works in Cocoa apps (Safari, Pages, iChat, etc) … But I'm going off topic. Sorry about that.
Oh damn -- every time MS releases a new commercial, it turns into a giant 2000 reply Mac vs. PC debate.
These commercials are just what the market needs right now...putting pressure on Apple is GOOD people. If everyone universally agrees Macs are better, what reason does Apple have to continue innovating? The only thing we will get out of these commercials is better computers that cost less (from both Apple and the rest...).
I thought MS was in bed with HP...I guessed they switched to Sony.
These commercials are just what the market needs right now...putting pressure on Apple is GOOD people. If everyone universally agrees Macs are better, what reason does Apple have to continue innovating? The only thing we will get out of these commercials is better computers that cost less (from both Apple and the rest...).
I thought MS was in bed with HP...I guessed they switched to Sony.
Sounds like Safari on EVERY MAC I'VE EVER OWNED.
It gets slower and slower and slower, until I spend an afternoon on google trying to find out what the hell is going on without ever getting a proper solution.
In that case feel free to buy a refurbished Mac, they are awesome and basically brand new, and can be hundreds of dollars cheaper.
This is just dreaming, we will NEVER see a mid-range Mac tower in the future. EVER. Mid-towers cater to few people outside the hardcore gaming nerd or cheap business PC demographics. Most consumers want laptops not some big bulky ugly POS taking up space in their homes. Face it "gaming" will never be big on Mac and IMO unless some big changes happen gaming on PC's will probably be dead well within a decade too.
as a pro user, FCO, motion, and apples crippling if no dedicated gpu under two grand, plus gaming, I am thrilled with these commercials. No blue ray, et-cetera. Apple one crippled the MacBook simply because barefeats and other sites reported you could run motion and open gl went from171% down to 70% with past x1300 gma something. Can't remember the exact name, plus typing on iPhone. N e way, hope apple stops worrying about the .001 pro market and release dedicated gpu in all devices.
If I get a PC it will be the Lenovo W700ds, and its over 5k.
1GB video card (now thats topping apple), etc. - but the price is up there...and its not pretty.
So the commercials of the cheaper PC are really a lie...also, Microsoft should capitalize on the fact Vista can run on a mac...not work against that fact.
Give me a Lenovo that has the glass track pad and looks of the unibody, and your on to something.
1GB video card (now thats topping apple), etc. - but the price is up there...and its not pretty.
So the commercials of the cheaper PC are really a lie...also, Microsoft should capitalize on the fact Vista can run on a mac...not work against that fact.
Give me a Lenovo that has the glass track pad and looks of the unibody, and your on to something.
Microsoft fears Iphone in these ad
As I understand Microsoft begin this attack, because fear of Iphone platform. It is too good and with Android, Symbian, WebOS in parallel it can lead to total disappear of Windows Mobile platform. Windows Mobile 7 is outdated even now. And Microsoft understand it. So it bad policeman now
Iphone leads to a great amount of switchers. Microsoft tries to fear them!
If talking about this ad, than Microsoft third time showed very strange persons. Who bought something totally weird. This Sony FW isn't game platform. If consultants don't say them in Best Buy - they are incompetent. Look into description of video card bundled:
" ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 with 512MB vRAM
With ATI® Radeon HD 3600 Series graphics with 512MB of dedicated video RAM, you'll experience the power of HD. Additionally, ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series graphics processors deliver break-through efficiency from cutting-edge technology and new energy-saving features that can help lower your energy costs and enable cool, quiet PCs."
It's video notebook, not game notebook.
As I understand Microsoft begin this attack, because fear of Iphone platform. It is too good and with Android, Symbian, WebOS in parallel it can lead to total disappear of Windows Mobile platform. Windows Mobile 7 is outdated even now. And Microsoft understand it. So it bad policeman now
Iphone leads to a great amount of switchers. Microsoft tries to fear them!
If talking about this ad, than Microsoft third time showed very strange persons. Who bought something totally weird. This Sony FW isn't game platform. If consultants don't say them in Best Buy - they are incompetent. Look into description of video card bundled:
" ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 with 512MB vRAM
With ATI® Radeon HD 3600 Series graphics with 512MB of dedicated video RAM, you'll experience the power of HD. Additionally, ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series graphics processors deliver break-through efficiency from cutting-edge technology and new energy-saving features that can help lower your energy costs and enable cool, quiet PCs."
It's video notebook, not game notebook.
OS Warz: Revenge of the Penguin
While the Mac and Windows denizens have been focused on the Microsoft’s Laptop Hunters ad campaign the Linux Foundation have been working on a contest featuring user created ads that would showcase “just what Linux means to those who use it.”
The recently announced winner of the "We Are Linux" user created ad competition is the “What Does It Mean To Be Free?” video created by Amitay Tweeto, a 25-year old graphic designer from Israel. The Linux Foundation recognized two runner-ups as well: The Origin and Linux Pub.
While the Mac and Windows denizens have been focused on the Microsoft’s Laptop Hunters ad campaign the Linux Foundation have been working on a contest featuring user created ads that would showcase “just what Linux means to those who use it.”
The recently announced winner of the "We Are Linux" user created ad competition is the “What Does It Mean To Be Free?” video created by Amitay Tweeto, a 25-year old graphic designer from Israel. The Linux Foundation recognized two runner-ups as well: The Origin and Linux Pub.
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And still over-priced. It's what I've done three times - buy a referb. It takes the sting off, but imho, still puts their laptops WAY over the price that most people are prepared to pay.
I have never recommended a Mac to a friend or family - because I'm not prepared to ask them to spend £1K on a laptop that doesn't have firewire, has a crap screen, need's adaptors to plug into a monitor, only has two USB ports - and they're too close together.
It's blinkered ignorant Apple fanboyism to deny the inconvenient truth - Apple's stuff is too bloody expensive.
Since Macs are basically PCs now, the only real difference is the OS. This is the area in which MS directly competes with Apple but it is completely ignored. And this ad didn't exploit the lack of gaming or Blu-ray on the Mac. The kid was happy that his laptop had Blu-ray but it wasn't stated that the Mac didn't.
So once again a missed opportunity by Microsoft. They clearly don't get it.
So once again a missed opportunity by Microsoft. They clearly don't get it.
Regardless of what system people think is better, I think it is good that Microsoft has finally responded to Apple's ads, and now Apple might find a reason to become even more competitive with their prices and product features. This is a good thing for all consumers.
Microsoft is onto a great strategy with these, they're starting to point out features that the Mac just doesnt support.
Blu-Ray!
Honestly, a 16" laptop with a Blu-Ray drive, that's good for gaming, all under $1500 is a pretty damn good deal, anything Apple offers doesnt even come close.
Blu-Ray!
Honestly, a 16" laptop with a Blu-Ray drive, that's good for gaming, all under $1500 is a pretty damn good deal, anything Apple offers doesnt even come close.
As I was watching this, I was thinking precisely the same thing. Seriously, anyone that wants to do some gaming does not buy Apple. They buy an alienware or something like that. No one in the apple community will be against someone not choosing a Mac for gaming. On the other hand, I dont like all the switchers. So, maybe i hope these ads work.
I bought my MBP to do some gaming. A good decision I'd say too. MBP's have good graphics cards compared to most laptops which is arguably the most important component in computer gaming.
Another great ad! Hit nail on head... GAMING AND BLU RAY!
This commercial hit Apple for its failure to acknowledge and incorporate new technologies like Blu Ray. In addition, games are a joke on the Mac.
Maybe it is going to take a bad economy and a great competitor to make the Mac into the great computer we know it could be.
Sure OS X blows away Windows. And the iLife 09 package is amazing. But Apple continually fails to adopt new technologies that could make people jump from the PC to Mac.
I could not live without my Mac, but I sure wish it had MANY of the capabilities available on the Windows/PC side.
Apple needs to truly upgrade its Macs this year. Except for the Mac Pro, the CPU upgrades have been a joke for the last few years. Still not adopting Quad Core for notebooks, or i7 for the iMac.
In addition, Apple needs to at least add Blu Ray as a BTO option on its notebooks. And would it hurt Apple to throw in a real dedicated graphics on its MB, MBA, and Mac mini. How much does 256 MB of RAM cost!
I pay a small fortune for every Mac I own... I feel the extra costs would be worth it if Apple kept up with technology. The problem is Apple is way behind in technology, but way ahead in design and innovation. If it could sell us updated technology, it would be worth the extra money... until then, the PC really does lead this battle.
Cannot watch a Blu Ray on a $4k Mac Pro. Funny thing is, I don't even care about Blu Ray, but as an Apple stockholder, I wish it was available for all of those that are buying PCs instead of Macs. Apple needs to boost the technology in all of its Macs this year. I want Apple to be innovative and yet current and relevant with its technology. A shiny glass trackpad is nice, but it cannot cost Apple more than a few cents to make. If I am paying $2499 for a notebook, I expect real upgraded performing hardware components capable of at least matching a $1500 Laptop. That is still $1000 of Apple tax. The problem is we are paying MORE than that...
Sad really, that Microsoft has an edge. With all of Apple's greatness, comes its failures as trying to save so much by not including current hardware, and yet selling every Mac for premium dollars.
I think this year Apple will see an end to the growth it had with Macs. It will blame it on the economy. However, the real reason is that Apple is losing its relevance to those that are not die hard Apple fans. Those that have to think about if they really want to compare a PC to a Mac are going to choose the PC. They can get a lot more power and capabilities for half the money.
Sad really. And I own three Macs right now, but I know PCs have the edge for MOST people. Only us Mac addicts are buying Macs with half the capabilities and power for double or triple the price.
This commercial hit Apple for its failure to acknowledge and incorporate new technologies like Blu Ray. In addition, games are a joke on the Mac.
Maybe it is going to take a bad economy and a great competitor to make the Mac into the great computer we know it could be.
Sure OS X blows away Windows. And the iLife 09 package is amazing. But Apple continually fails to adopt new technologies that could make people jump from the PC to Mac.
I could not live without my Mac, but I sure wish it had MANY of the capabilities available on the Windows/PC side.
Apple needs to truly upgrade its Macs this year. Except for the Mac Pro, the CPU upgrades have been a joke for the last few years. Still not adopting Quad Core for notebooks, or i7 for the iMac.
In addition, Apple needs to at least add Blu Ray as a BTO option on its notebooks. And would it hurt Apple to throw in a real dedicated graphics on its MB, MBA, and Mac mini. How much does 256 MB of RAM cost!
I pay a small fortune for every Mac I own... I feel the extra costs would be worth it if Apple kept up with technology. The problem is Apple is way behind in technology, but way ahead in design and innovation. If it could sell us updated technology, it would be worth the extra money... until then, the PC really does lead this battle.
Cannot watch a Blu Ray on a $4k Mac Pro. Funny thing is, I don't even care about Blu Ray, but as an Apple stockholder, I wish it was available for all of those that are buying PCs instead of Macs. Apple needs to boost the technology in all of its Macs this year. I want Apple to be innovative and yet current and relevant with its technology. A shiny glass trackpad is nice, but it cannot cost Apple more than a few cents to make. If I am paying $2499 for a notebook, I expect real upgraded performing hardware components capable of at least matching a $1500 Laptop. That is still $1000 of Apple tax. The problem is we are paying MORE than that...
Sad really, that Microsoft has an edge. With all of Apple's greatness, comes its failures as trying to save so much by not including current hardware, and yet selling every Mac for premium dollars.
I think this year Apple will see an end to the growth it had with Macs. It will blame it on the economy. However, the real reason is that Apple is losing its relevance to those that are not die hard Apple fans. Those that have to think about if they really want to compare a PC to a Mac are going to choose the PC. They can get a lot more power and capabilities for half the money.
Sad really. And I own three Macs right now, but I know PCs have the edge for MOST people. Only us Mac addicts are buying Macs with half the capabilities and power for double or triple the price.
That Apple Tax thing is total BS. He just throws in all this crap that Mac users don't need or even buy a lot of the time. Then he has the nerve to not even include an antivirus in the software section for PC. It's funny to see Microsoft so scared of a company that really is not a serious threat to them at this point in time.
Can you get a Macbook or Macbook Pro anywhere with Blu-ray, off-the-shelf or not? Didn't think so.
You can get a Vaio FW from Newegg "off-the-shelf" for $1300.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834117857
For $1300 you get:
- XBRITE-Full HD 16.4" screen, 1920x1080 resolution smokes the 15" MBP and for all intents and purposes matches the 17"MBP.
- Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz.
- 4GB RAM (with Vista 64-bit to use it all).
- Dedicated 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 video card.
- Blu-ray drive that's not even available on a Mac.
- Magnesium alloy cage.
- Chicklet keys (that Sony had first and Apple copied) that work better than Mac's version.
- 6.4 pounds light.
Like I said in the other laptop hunter thread, the Vaio FW offers performance and value in a nice package that Apple can't touch.
As for the "crap screen"? I don't think so. The resolution smokes the MB and 15.4" MBP and matches the 17" MBP.
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I completely fail to understand comparison on a feature-for-feature basis. Who cares if there is a slightly bigger hard-drive or more RAM for your buck - the fundamental difference is that an Apple computer WILL RUN OSX out of the box.
That should always the determining factor - the OS difference is a billion times more significant than any hardware difference, a fact that is not addressed in these ads.
//doobi18
That should always the determining factor - the OS difference is a billion times more significant than any hardware difference, a fact that is not addressed in these ads.
//doobi18
I am more than happy to pay the Apple Tax
Why? Because Apple clearly pump that money into R&D to give us market leading innovative products, both software and hardware.
Without a big R&D budget, I couldn't see the iPhone or Unibody Macbook/Pros or Mac OS and all the software you get with it.
Apple innovate, they lead the market with their product launches. Paying or that is not a problem for me.
Why? Because Apple clearly pump that money into R&D to give us market leading innovative products, both software and hardware.
Without a big R&D budget, I couldn't see the iPhone or Unibody Macbook/Pros or Mac OS and all the software you get with it.
Apple innovate, they lead the market with their product launches. Paying or that is not a problem for me.
Kind of like why I won't recommend anyone to buy a PC because I am not prepared to ask anyone to spend more than $200 for a machine with Windows Vista, which is a horrible OS. I don't care if it has 20 USB ports, firewire, and a 6TB HD, if the OS sucks, what good are all of the features???