That may have been true ten years ago. But with Apple gaining in visibility, there would be good money for hackers to start attacking Macs as well as PCs, which hasn't happened. OS design is the reason.
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That may have been true ten years ago. But with Apple gaining in visibility, there would be good money for hackers to start attacking Macs as well as PCs, which hasn't happened. OS design is the reason.
Oh, I wasn't claiming Cinepaint is anywhere near the same the latest Photoshop or any other Adobe product. If you noticed, it has a pretty narrow mission, which is frame-to-frame touch up for Movies mostly (hence the name).
I was just saying Gimp pretty much gave up on the Photoshop clone idea, and just wants to be a free image manipulation program for people that don't need the power of Photoshop (like for web graphics), hence the fork to Cinepaint for more professional type features.
there is another issue that some folks are disregarding. yes allowing OS X on any hardware would increase the software's sales. But part of Apple's appeal is their service. Which would be harder to achieve at the same levels if you increase the configurations they are working with. Given that Apple really pushes that service, I can't see them doing something that will potentially muck it up
Understood. It wasn't you, but the "OR" (Original Responder) who claimed that GIMP was a full Photoshop replacement. My point here was simply that even if it (or Cinepaint) was, I wasn't looking for a replacement for just Photoshop.
In regards to photographic interests, my brother had just shopped around in the Windows world, looking for an iPhoto-equivalent. He now has a brand new 24" iMac.
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not a very elegant solution having wires adapters of all kinds running everywhere, you have to remember that a USB port can only provide 500mA, you take away approx 100-150mA when you add a hub leaving you with 400mA on a good day. usb drives use excess of 100mA any peripheral is at least 75mA. a 2.5" external uses over 600mA and would cause a power surge on your laptops usb hub.
anyways... lack of usb isnt the only thing apple is missing what about
eSATA
HDMI
VGA
FW 4 or 6 pin (i use FW to quick network transfers as FW on windows shows up has a network interface and transferes around 18-22MB/s)
Express card (most people wont pay $2K for a laptop let alone $1000)
video card with deticated ram (shared ram and an onboard video card just sucks)
a built in webcam that doesnt suck crap, the isight according to wiki is only 640x480 resolution, a $300 netbook webcam is 1.3MP (1280x1024ish), my Acer aspire gaming laptop had a 2MP swiveling web cam from 2 years ago.
Expandable battery? i had a 12" acer that came with both 3 and 6 cell batteries out of the box, i had the option of a 9 cell for extra run time, what about apple?
keep in mind, there are diffrent levels of acers unlike apple HW, acer travelmates are rock solid, higher end gaming aspires are not the same quality as low end "bestbuy special" aspires
the travelmate and aspire never had weird hinge cracking issues, overheating issues, or strange defects (exploding batteries)
nobody claimed gimp was a photoshop replacement, its an ALTERNATIVE, gimp can do quite a few things and is more than enough to touch up photos.
in ubuntu gimp comes free preinstalled even on the live cd, for the average user that needs to "chop" a picture, gimp will do just fine.
professional editing? photoshop 64bit would be the best.
hmm awesome, but a little too late since all those functions and more are built into resco photo. (however resco photo i believe is only for winmo)
I agree with all your points. I don't see "the beginning of the end" for Microsoft for, oh, another 10 years or so, but it has to happen eventually. It must. I've already said that it's happened to IBM already. Now, I don't see Microsoft collapsing completely, but eventually they will be pushed back into a corner and, as far as anybody is concerned, be almost completely irrelevant. Give it 20 more years and Microsoft will be like IBM is today. 40 years and they're gone.
I agree with all your points. I don't see "the beginning of the end" for Microsoft for, oh, another 10 years or so, but it has to happen eventually. It must. I've already said that it's happened to IBM already. Now, I don't see Microsoft collapsing completely, but eventually they will be pushed back into a corner and, as far as anybody is concerned, be almost completely irrelevant. Give it 20 more years and Microsoft will be like IBM is today. 40 years and they're gone.
Won't the same forces eliminate Apple as well?
Not really. Apple's current sales volume is less than 4.5% of total units shifted and they aren't even in the global top 5 OEMs. They're simply not a big enough target.
In addition. OS X doesn't utilise ASLR or DEP so you could actually argue its less secure than Vista.
Juste a question
there is a promotion of 60's i think the child was very old now ... may be die ...
there is a promotion of 60's i think the child was very old now ... may be die ...
I beg to differ.
But if all I needed to do was minor "touch up", then why wouldn't I have said "iPhoto" or "Photoshop Elements" instead of "Photoshop"? The fact that I went on and also specified Lightroom should have been a clear clue.
In 8 bit. Plus you still haven't answered the mail for Acrobat (Writer) or for portfolio management ... eg, iPhoto, Aperture, Adobe Lightroom, etc.
Thus, Linux simply isn't a viable alternative (yet) for some of us.
IT depends. That presently requires a Windows OS, although there's also a greater need for 64bit under Windows OS ... a Catch 22.
The key question is ones's need to have Adobe to address more than the Windows/32' RAM limit, which Mac OS has been a partial solution for years. Going beyond that is generally and relatively rare with current imaging technology, particularly within the non-HDR, non-stitched, not extensively layered realms.
FWIW, of of curiosity on the 32-vs-64 bit question, I did a RAM addressability stress test a year ago (activity monitor screenshot is here), which I did by opening up one of my 200 MP (17,433 x 11,551) images, plus its first downsample of 50MP (8674 x 5776).
That's effectively "250 MP worth" of images ... addressed in a 32bit system.
The contemporary relevance perspective is that the new Canon 5Dmk2 dSLR (MSRP $2700) has "only" a 21MP sensor. I expect that once I upgrade, I'll be able to work with up to 10-12 of them together at once for whatever purpose (HDR, stitching, layers, etc) before worrying about 32-vs-64 bit issues, by which time I'll probably also have a new Mac Pro, Snow Leopard and CS5.
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sorry but OSX is WAY less secure than windows, especially when it comes to browsers
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/03/28/mac_hack/
if OSX was 90% market share, we would all be screwed, there is NOTHING to prevent code from being executed once in memory.
Lets get back to the topic. The bottom line is Microsoft is very scared of Apple and thats the truth. The success of iPhone has lead people to have great interest in the MAC line. Microsoft laughed at the iPhone and now it's the dominate phone in the industry.
Microsoft has fear in it's heart and thats what the ads are for. The apple stores are always packed with people inquiring over their products and thats where it begins. Vista was a bust and people are seeing the stability of apple.
Microsoft is very very scared and thats what the ads are about.
Bill Gates once Quoted: "There is a kid in a garage building a better software than windows"
Yo Bill that kid works for Apple.
Microsoft has fear in it's heart and thats what the ads are for. The apple stores are always packed with people inquiring over their products and thats where it begins. Vista was a bust and people are seeing the stability of apple.
Microsoft is very very scared and thats what the ads are about.
Bill Gates once Quoted: "There is a kid in a garage building a better software than windows"
Yo Bill that kid works for Apple.
Okay, you've finally convinced me: everything Microsoft makes is perfect and cheap and everything Apple makes sucks and is expensive. Happy now?
Perhaps Apple should hire you, you seem to know every single little thing wrong with every product they make.
incorrect, i just dont have brand name loyalty (becuase brand name loyalty is the most retarded thing ever, who gives a sh*t what label is on it, NOBODY makes everything on their own), im aware of the pros and cons of most products. you simply cannot buy a product based on brand name, you buy it based on the role it needs to take.
ive seen people buy cars because of the color and brand name if the vehicle (some people will defend VW till their death even though VW's reliability is rock bottom)
they didnt even bother looking at
power/weight ratio
gas millage
reliability
warranty
wheel base
roll over resistance (this was an SUV)
engine setup (timing chain or belt)
wheel size and tread wear
AWD intelligence (active yaw control, torque splitting diffs, LSD, lockable diff, etc)
braking performance (4wheel disc, abs, EBD,etc)
it takes like 10 mins to compare all the features on msn autos,
1 manufacturer cannot make the best product is EVERY SINGLE category, similarily to how BMW and benz makes good high end luxury cars but their low end stuff is the worst garbage on earth (take a look at the ML class and 320)
well actually you do exactly the same thing as all fanboys do. you say we´d all be screwed and going to hell if osx had a 90% marketshare and refer to a competition in which browser vulnerabilities were exploited. thus implying that there is no such thing on windows (though i guess you mean ie and safari). it´s still the same. you defend windows(ie) the same way as people defend macosx(safari) here. and no reference to car , watch or bird analogies changes that.
and to edit myself again. this is still completely off topic (if i dare to read the thread name again) though this might be a fun discussion i think it´s time it get´s it´s own bashing thread. since about every thread gets hijacked and driven into a mac vs. pc flamewar since those spots got first aired. which might be a coincidence, but being in advertising myself and being aware of the forum advertising technique done so often these days (though i think it´s the lowest form of marketing possible) it might be a nice move to make an open discussion out of this e.g. it´s own thread. so that not every single thread gets pushed in this direction. even the sj health post was. which tbh. makes the whole thing a bit annoying (edit: still i believe a discussion like this would make far more sense on neutral ground. where more windows users are present so it´s a bit of an open discussion with multiple people joining both sides)
Apple doesn't make products for every single category, which is part of your criticism of them. So which is it? You and the other Apple haters type up a list of specs and then call everyone who disagrees "fanboys" and "elitist." You say that brands have no sway over you, yet you love everything Microsoft makes. I'll bet all the clothes you wear have labels in them, too. You are being a total hypocrite and just arguing in circles over nothing.
I've already ceded your superiority because you use Microsoft products and hate Apple products, what is it going to take to make you go away?
I still don't know why there's a Windows flag logo at the end. They didn't give me one reason to buy Windows.
They didn't give me one reason to buy Windows.
Maybe. However, the constant is "Change (Adapt) or Die".
For any corporation, the real underlying question is the degree to which the factor of adapting to maintain relevancy have been baked into their DNA.
Apple has almost been killed, and yet has shown a strong resilience and willingness to try new markets and while some didn't make it (Newton), in the 'Second Jobs Era' it seems that they've really focused in on the question of how to better discern what does/doesn't make it...hence, iPod, iPhone. And maybe even
TV. To summarize, their near-term survival skills are effectively guaranteed. IMO, the replacement-of-Steve (whenever that comes...its not important when it is) probably won't be as much of a risk/concern as will be the replacement-of-the-replacement-of-Steve, since by that point there will probably no longer be any direct Corporate Memory of the struggle of the 1990s, etc...only that which has been successfully passed along.
Microsoft, on the other hand, very quickly became the big bully on the block and their biggest missteps has been illegal use of monopoly power. Many of their products haven't been particularly compelling, for the simple reason that they didn't have competition and would sell whatever it was no matter what.
This "easy money" paradigm changed under Vista .. and the Zune .. and as a result, Microsoft has become quite terrified of their longer term prospects.
And that's ultimately what this marketing campaign against Apple is about:
the simple reality is that MS doesn't really know how to compete in a fair & open playing field...and they're never really faced adversity and a fight for their own survival. As such, just what relevant skills do they have baked into their DNA? Kinda sounds like diddly squat.
I'm sure that there's some at MS who realize this and are scared and trying to respond. The problem isn't for their trying: the real question is if they have the right skill sets with which to figure out what needs to be changed in order to restore relevancy and thus, survival. As an analogy, with the SUV craze in the 1990s, many people were lead to believe that GM was healthy. The reality was that they had a very profitable niche market and a lot of junk in their corporate portfolio, and when the niche dried up, they fell. Hard.
When you look at these commercials, they're really making MS's situation worse, not better: the fundamental story that's being told (inadvertently!) is that OS is taken for granted ... invisible ... and the only strong appeal of a Windows PC is that it is cheap.
Since that's nothing less than a race to the bottom, does it really sound like a successful strategy for maintaining relevance? Particularly when in an industry segment that provides significant rewards for innovation?
The bottom line for Apple is that all that they need to do in 2009 is to get into the Public's mindshare that: "Windows 7 = Vista SP2", and MS could have one heck of a problem on their hands. MS knows this, which is why the "V Word" is absent.
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Apple has shown the ability to adapt, but certainly Microsoft has too. (Going from "missing the boat" on the Internet to anti-trust charges in a few years show how effectively they adapted to that change.)
If you want to see Microsoft adapting to the future, look up "Windows Azure" (http://www.microsoft.com/azure/default.mspx).
Microsoft is investing several billion per year to adapt to a network based infrastructure. (Also known as "the cloud".)
If Apple does that, they'll be a "buggy whip maker" fighting the "horseless carriage".
Or, in my opinion more likely, they'll mostly abandon the Mac platform and concentrate on gadgets. That seems to be their current direction, as far as I can see.
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Anyway, I agree with the premise that if Apple and Microsoft are still around in 30 years, they won't be known for desktop operating systems.
The NBA playoffs start on the 18th. We should see the next one this weekend. I can only imagine what kind of actors they pull out next