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ipod and smart phones had made people use the Pc less

I use my ipod touch to check email, surf more at home than my mac,like a whole generation of people.. I think a tablet where I dint have to do all that pinching zooming would be great. I would want to hook up to a monitor and key board at home and replace home pc over time . Portable item life span is only 2-3 years so would only buy below $400-$500. Ms tablet looks like a good mass market start.
 
So the Newton went from a PDA (like Palm) to a tablet device? Or are we saying they are the same thing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton

You might as well give up. *LTD* is a apple troll. Yes I am calling him a troll.

Wow, that's rich, coming from you.

he will bash anything with out an apple label on it.

Whereas you will bash anything with an Apple label on it. What's the difference?

Just learn to pass over his post and learn he is what you call a true apple fanboy/troll.

And you're just a fanboy/troll sitting on the other side of the fence. The interesting thing is that you choose to hate on Apple on an Apple-oriented website. Pretty pathetic.

Before throwing out the "troll" card, you might want to try a mirror sometime.
 
hmm so your defense of him is that. If you noticed I do not bash apple products but I do refused to buy the hype and try to remind people to take a look at them with a grain of salt.

Just because I refuse to worship at the Church of Apple and worship the god known as Steve Jobs does not make me an apple hater or basher.

Or is it because I think differently. Means I refuse to buy everything apple says as the best way.

I also only tend to chime in when the trolls gets out of hand. I have stayed out of the apple tablet thread because there is nothing to say on it other than I am interested in what it will be. Yes I have my worries on apple control freak ways doing more harm to it. but I still have hopes that they open it up and allow people do have more freedom of choice on it.

I also am not the only person who has pointed out the problems with LTD. I am just the one who calls him on it. True Apple trolls/Fanboys are worthless even on an apple fansite because they can not even bother looking at negatives. They just go LOOK HOW GREAT *Blank* is. Nothing worth worth talking about. I guess you want everyone to be a blind follower of the church of apple.
 
Hmmm... let's think ratios for a moment.

Microsoft: Roughly 90% of the computing market all-told. $3.574B. That's roughly a 2.51:1 ratio, market to money.

Apple: Roughly 10% of the computing market all told. $1.665B. That's roughly a .60:1 ratio, market to money.

Who's really making the better income for effort? It looks like Apple is coming out 4x better than Microsoft in this comparison.

Since Apple doesn't reap any revenue from iPhone, iPod, iTunes, MobileMe, AppleCare, AppleTV, or the physical machines it makes, right?

Yet further proof that you can't talk business with someone who can't read a 10-K. If you did you'd notice that, from a software standpoint as you cited, the two are about as efficient, just with Apple being much, much smaller. Apple makes its bank from things other than its 10% OS market share.
 
I get that (having owned a MP 120). I just am amazed that it went from being the grandfather of PDAs (I still think the handwriting recognition got a bad rap) to being the grandfather of tablets. That would basically imply that the iPhone and iPod Touch are already tablets since they are the successor to the Newton (IMHO).

I dunno, how does one define "tablet?" 5" screen or bigger? 7"? 10"?

I guess I would define a tablet as something you interact with directly on the screen without any other direct input source. A single "slate" if you will. In which case yes, the Newton was essentially a tablet, as were the PDAs that followed it. And the iPhone/iPod touch.

Of course the product category is about to be redefined again, by Apple and others.

The Newton was certainly ahead of its time, which spelled its doom. The bulkiness didn't help either.
 
LagunaSol said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton

I get that (having owned a MP 120). I just am amazed that it went from being the grandfather of PDAs (I still think the handwriting recognition got a bad rap) to being the grandfather of tablets. That would basically imply that the iPhone and iPod Touch are already tablets since they are the successor to the Newton (IMHO).

Didn't you get the message? Jobs can trace his ancestry and that of his company back to Moses and the tablets. Apple have prior art ownership on every writing device since the dawn of civilization! There are many things that supposedly haven't been invented yet that Apple and its disciples already have patents for. They're just waiting for you to make the first move :).
 
Update: BoomTown reports that while Ballmer may show off tablet-like devices as part of his keynote focusing on Windows 7 and the company's "software plus services" positioning, there will be no formal introduction of a slate-style tablet device or its "Courier" device in particular.4

If this is true, then this will confirm my suspicion that Balmer is a total idiot that MS should have gotten rid of years ago. "hello, bill, you left the store with an imbecile in charge, did you know that?"
 
Apple vs Microsoft: ver. 3,129,435,666,755,342,017.5

Good luck to Microsoft. I seriously hope that they prove every single one of you fanboys wrong.

You know full well that if this device had an Apple logo on it, you'd go out and buy it and say it's the best thing like sliced bread.

Reply: That's because it would be. Microsoft has been out of touch with the consumer for a very long time. You actually have to be a bigger fanboy of MS to keep purchasing their products. With Apple it is easy, they really do make great stuff.
 
Didn't you get the message? Jobs can trace his ancestry and that of his company back to Moses and the tablets. Apple have prior art ownership on every writing device since the dawn of civilization! There are many things that supposedly haven't been invented yet that Apple and its disciples already have patents for. They're just waiting for you to make the first move :).

Captain Straw Man makes his appearance. :rolleyes:
 
Update: BoomTown reports that while Ballmer may show off tablet-like devices as part of his keynote focusing on Windows 7 and the company's "software plus services" positioning, there will be no formal introduction of a slate-style tablet device or its "Courier" device in particular.4

If this is true, then this will confirm my suspicion that Balmer is a total idiot that MS should have gotten rid of years ago. "hello, bill, you left the store with an imbecile in charge, did you know that?"

Possibly.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/01/06/ces-microsoft-and-h-p-to-show-slate-but-not-a-big-surprise/

CES: Microsoft and H-P to Show Slate, But Not a Big Surprise

By Nick Wingfield

Steve Ballmer plans to show a slate-style computer during his Consumer Electronics Show keynote Wednesday night. But don’t get too excited.

People familiar with the matter say the device to be shown by Microsoft’s CEO, built by Hewlett-Packard, is not some surprise response to Apple’s expected tablet or Amazon.com’s hit Kindle. Rather, they say, it’s an extension of existing keyboardless designs that H-P and others have made with Microsoft’s help since the 1990s. It runs Microsoft’s recently introduced Windows 7, for example, not some brand-new operating system.

These people add that the H-P device, reported in a New York Times blog post last night, isn’t related to Courier, a Microsoft concept for a dual screen, book-like electronic-reading device. Mock-up designs of Courier leaked onto the Internet in September and caused quite a stir.

Photos and a video posted by Gizmodo at that time indicated Courier could handle both touch-sensing and capture handwriting through a stylus. People familiar with the matter at that time said the material was put together by a design firm working with Microsoft, adding that the device would not be shown at CES and might never become a real product.

Just to add to the confusion, Hewlett-Packard on Wednesday separately announced the TouchSmart tm2–its latest “convertible” laptop model. That means that people can use it like a conventional notebook PC or flip the screen to use it like a tablet. It features multi-touch technology, and is expected to expected to go on sale in the U.S. on Jan. 17 at a starting price of $949.
 
Reed Rothchild said:
Didn't you get the message? Jobs can trace his ancestry and that of his company back to Moses and the tablets. Apple have prior art ownership on every writing device since the dawn of civilization! There are many things that supposedly haven't been invented yet that Apple and its disciples already have patents for. They're just waiting for you to make the first move .

Captain Straw Man makes his appearance. :rolleyes:


Ha ha :). You were the one who was (incredibly) linking the Apple Newton with the future Apple tablet. My reply was perfectly apposite to yours. I believe straw man accusations are only brought up when the respondent has run out of valid responses, so congratulations to you Worzel :).
 
Update: BoomTown reports that while Ballmer may show off tablet-like devices as part of his keynote focusing on Windows 7 and the company's "software plus services" positioning, there will be no formal introduction of a slate-style tablet device or its "Courier" device in particular.4

If this is true, then this will confirm my suspicion that Balmer is a total idiot that MS should have gotten rid of years ago. "hello, bill, you left the store with an imbecile in charge, did you know that?"

So Balmer is an idiot because the whole main stream media is saying he will release the Courier, and some even completely ignored the fact that HP was working with them...

I hate Balmer as much as I hate Jobs as much as I hate most CEOs out there, but saying it's his fault is just too convenient.
 
So Balmer is an idiot because the whole main stream media is saying he will release the Courier, and some even completely ignored the fact that HP was working with them...

I hate Balmer as much as I hate Jobs as much as I hate most CEOs out there, but saying it's his fault is just too convenient.

It's fairly poor control of the message.
 
Update: BoomTown reports that while Ballmer may show off tablet-like devices as part of his keynote focusing on Windows 7 and the company's "software plus services" positioning, there will be no formal introduction of a slate-style tablet device or its "Courier" device in particular.4

If this is true, then this will confirm my suspicion that Balmer is a total idiot that MS should have gotten rid of years ago. "hello, bill, you left the store with an imbecile in charge, did you know that?"

I'm not surprised although I am a little disappointed because I do like the Courier mock-up demo. I would buy the Apple tablet (or even a Microsoft tablet)if it is anything close to that. I'm sick of writing notes on different notebooks and then losing the info. I would also love to be able to have an e-book and highlight and jot down notes with a stylus.

Yes Balmer is an idiot I agree. I'm sure that he's smarter than I because he is where he is and I am not LOL however I do respect Bill Gates or someone like J Allard much more than that ape of a human.

Just my 0.02$
 
Yes Balmer is an idiot I agree. I'm sure that he's smarter than I because he is where he is and I am not LOL however I do respect Bill Gates or someone like J Allard much more than that ape of a human.

Just my 0.02$

Do not confuse 'smarter' with an ambition driven by general lack of conscience, morals, and sensibility.

I am not regretful of leaving a highly lucrative business 15 years ago which sold products which were sub-par, problematic, and were a source of frustration among consumers.

Had it not been for the Windows-Office lock-in, he would not be where he is today.
 
Mpeg-2

Are you sure about that? You don't have Cable? You only receive 'on-air' programming without the need of any device other than an antenna on your roof? (and I don't mean 'dish' type.) If you get more than 5 channels on your TV, then you're probably receiving either cable or satellite. If you are, Quicktime has been the standard compression format for about 10 years. Yes, with HD there are newer formats, but that doesn't mean they have totally replaced Quicktime yet.

Don't you mean MPEG-2? Satellite uses MPEG-2 compression for most of the channels. I don't know what they use for HD channels.

Hugh
 
Rude in what way?

Who friggin cares that you're *trying* to be objective. I DON'T. Like you're doing all of us a favour. IF ANYBODY CAN DO A FAVOUR, THAT'S ME. BUT SO FAR, I'M STILL HERE.

There, I fixed it for ya! APPLE!!!!!! :apple:
 
e-book stylus

I would also love to be able to have an e-book and highlight and jot down notes with a stylus.

That sounds like a LiveScribe SmartPen?

Sure, you want paperless. But this would do 98% of what I think you're describing, you can buy it today, and it's cheap.
 
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