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You set your shadow copy schedule by using a few tickboxes and drop-down menus. You right-click on a folder, click on a tab and click a couple buttons to restore. Yeah... really complicated.

The problem is partially Microsoft staff's inability to be as slick as Jobs.

The fanbois will see how much "slickness" will net them when their hard drive crashes at 11:59, a minute shy of the "daily backup regime", and their entire day's work is wiped :rolleyes:
 
You set your shadow copy schedule by using a few tickboxes and drop-down menus. You right-click on a folder, click on a tab and click a couple buttons to restore. Yeah... really complicated.

The problem is partially Microsoft staff's inability to be as slick as Jobs.

Isnt only 3 clicks in Time Machine?
 
Negative. I'm with Shadow Copy on this one. Time Machine requires another HD to work.. and actually makes copies of each file change which uses up a lot of disk space and is inefficient. Shadow Copy will work on your primary HD and seems to use some sort of CVS technology.

Also, the UI for Time Machine seems a bit over-the-top, not the usual cool-yet functional design Apple excels at.

Just where I want my backups to be-- on my primary drive. :confused:
 
Neither Time Machine not Shadow Copy is a replacement for backups. It's a 'oh s***, I shouldn't have deleted that' or 'oh s***, I didn't mean to overwrite that' or 'Holy ****, how long has that file been corrupted?' insurance. And it is possible to Shadow Copy on volumes other than that being shadowed. I could say this to almost every Macrumors member talking about Windows and every PC-based user talking about Macs, but know what you're ******* talking about before you dismiss it.
 
Neither Time Machine not Shadow Copy is a replacement for backups. It's a 'oh s***, I shouldn't have deleted that' or 'oh s***, I didn't mean to overwrite that' insurance. And it is possible to Shadow Copy on volumes other than that being shadowed. I could say this to almost every Macrumors member talking about Windows and every PC-based user talking about Macs, but know what you're ******* talking about before you dismiss it.

haha, yeah, i have been using that for 10 years.
 
I was using snapshotting on NetApp filers back in 2001. Neither Microsoft nor Apple came up with this. It's been around on various vendors kit for years.
 
/sarcasm/

Wow, can you believe Microsoft is copying the iPhone by releasing a cell phone that does email, plays music, views photos and has a touchscreen? What? Apple aren't releasing it for another 6 months? Huh? Microsoft has had them out for years?* Well that's just a blatant rip off. Boo M$, Windoze etc...

/end sarcasm

I agree with the other posters on this thread, these "copying" threads are so often misinformed and just become tiresome. Everyone copies, but that's a good thing! Technology advances in this way. Imagine if everyone had to learn everything from scratch? We'd still be inventing the wheel, working out how to light a fire and so on.

The point is: WHO CARES! If you use OS X, why does it affect you what is in Vista and vice-versa? Use what you want and enjoy it. I use both, as well as Linux, and see many similarities in all of them. Do I care who invented it? No! Does it make my life better to see something I like in OS X implemented in Vista? Heck yeh! Most of the stuff you love about whatever OS you use was probably invented by some random developer then sold to some small company that was eventually bought by some bigger company and licensed to where it landed.

But if you do insist on posting these copying posts, at least get the facts straight.

*Amongst other vendors, not claiming they invented it.

Damo
 
The Volume Shadow Copy provides the underlying technology for making snapshots, backing up open files and of course restoring older versions of files. It wasn't created with the consumer in mind, but as an enterprise feature to be used in big networks.

I think in this one Apple "copied" MS. I also think that the whole copying story is getting ridiculous and we should all stop it.
Yes, Microsoft does copy more but everybody does more or less.

Apple has taken a good idea (VSS) and implemented it in a great way and it deserves credit for that.

I would also like to see Microsoft doing exactly the same with many other technologies where Apple has been innovating.
 
Time Machine requires another HD to work..

No it doesn't you can use just one HD, though that would be kinda pointless, time machines main aim is as Backup software, so only using one HD would solve that problem.
 
Negative. I'm with Shadow Copy on this one. Time Machine requires another HD to work.. and actually makes copies of each file change which uses up a lot of disk space and is inefficient. Shadow Copy will work on your primary HD and seems to use some sort of CVS technology.
You sure about this? I thought ZFS support would be a hint about what Time Machine does? Just speculation on my part though. It would work better with another volume as having a backup on the same volume does nothing if the read-write head goes tits up.
Also, the UI for Time Machine seems a bit over-the-top, not the usual cool-yet functional design Apple excels at.
Remember pinstripes? Yes, Apple does yucky things with UIs sometimes. But I thought they were cool back in the day. Apple can always improve the UI if people give feedback about it being too cheesy.
 
Speaking of which, remember the 1984 ad? Well, this is Microsoft's attempt at something similar:

linky

I know what you mean :D

Embarrassing, isn't he? I'm sure even Gates must cringe when Ballmer has to be wheeled into public view. The disturbing thing is he seems to have got worse as he gets older. I can just imagine him at 80 hooting and hopping in a padded room, throwing his own crap at anyone who visits shouting 'developers!' :D
 
Embarrassing, isn't he? I'm sure even Gates must cringe when Ballmer has to be wheeled into public view. The disturbing thing is he seems to have got worse as he gets older. I can just imagine him at 80 hooting and hopping in a padded room, throwing his own crap at anyone who visits shouting 'developers!' :D

What's embarrassing is your comment... :rolleyes: - it was joke, made more than a decade after the 80s, it was meant to be *sartastic8 (and fool people like you, with no sense of reality.)

PS: yes, I know it's a 2-yrs old topic, I was just searching for possible DFS support in Snow Leopard... :D
 
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