Skip.... to what? Are you suggesting that there's going to be a Windows 9? Because at this point, I kinda doubt it.
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Microsoft Surface Pro to Be Released February 9 with $899 Price Tag
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Skip.... to what? Are you suggesting that there's going to be a Windows 9? Because at this point, I kinda doubt it.
Tablets like this new Surface Pro, or like the Samsung Ativ Pro, which can run a complete OS, are going to be successful. A colleague bought an Ativ Pro last week, and the rest of the office wants one. Well, except me because I consider the MacBook Air a better machine, but, anyway I believe Apple will lose an opportunity if they don't release "touch OSX". I cannot do my work on iOS, I really need OSX for work, and it would be great to have it on a touch screen.
I agree with you for the most part, except that the Modern apps are registered as the default views for a lot of file types. I installed Windows 8 on my old netbook mainly for the improvement in boot time, and it will not run Modern apps due to the resolution being below 1024x768. I knew that going in.
After using it for a few months I've hit a couple annoying snags when trying to listen to voicemail messages emailed as WAV files, viewing PDF documents, and a few other types. There are a number of actions which seem very sensable in Desktop mode that immediately try to throw you Modern mode (but then fail on a netbook). Similar things can happen when trying to change settings.
For the most part you can ignore the Modern apps, but they do have a tendency to try to switching context on you every once and a while. On a normal machine it wouldn't bother me too much, but the resolution error is annoying and frequent enough I'll probably go back to Windows 7 at some point.
Of course there will be a Windows 9 or whatever it will be called when it is released in the next 3-4? years.
I never thought I'd say this but I am actually hoping MS can get some of their mojo back. I would rather have a good solid US company as my main competitor than a bunch of Asian companies coupled with an evil data mining company.
Besides, SJ and BG did have mutual admiration for each other.
Besides, SJ and BG did have mutual admiration for each other.
But we know from the quarterly reports, its a very small part of Apple's profits, much smaller then what they make from sales of iPhones, iPads, iPods and even Macs.
At $899 this isn't going to be your only computer. Once you add a keyboard cover you get closer, but I really want to see how much storage is left on the 64G model before saying it's really capable of acting as a daily driver.
I am very interested in the Yoga 11S when it comes out, though. Lower price point, built in keyboard, full x86 processor like the Surface Pro. If only it was available before June.
Don't agree with this statement at all. I absolutely love it - it's a fluid, fast and responsive OS. The tiles are beautiful and a joy to see compared with the blandness of Win7 (and OSX).
I am curious towards a Surface, but until the app store fills up it's a deal breaker.
Windows 8 sucks! I have it and I've spent plenty of time using it. My family who are Windows users would have a much easier time switching over to Mac OS than to deal with Windows 8. Not only is it a pain from a day to day usability standpoint but for example, Windows 8 can now view PDF's by nature of the system like Mac OS, but it only runs through the stupid Tiles UI. If I download a PDF to the desktop then it opens up through the Metro UI. Dumb. Don't let me get started about the stupid method to access the sleep and shutdown buttons. And all this is just the small crap.
This chart shows a single $499 price for the iPad but gives a RANGE of storage options and multiple networking options. It should give a price range.
And this Surface Pro looks completely pointless. Just Microsoft seeing analysts claiming that PCs are going to die soon (not true), getting a laptop, making it a little worse, adding a touch screen, and branding it as a tablet. What a joke. And as a general rule, it's not a good idea to buy anything from MS for $899.
And this Surface Pro looks completely pointless. Just Microsoft seeing analysts claiming that PCs are going to die soon (not true), getting a laptop, making it a little worse, adding a touch screen, and branding it as a tablet. What a joke. And as a general rule, it's not a good idea to buy anything from MS for $899.
The promise of the Surface Pro is that it's a laptop and tablet in one but I dont know any people who use a 10.6" laptop as their only machine.
That's where it falls apart with me.
Brilliant!
A fairer comparison would be iPad vs Surface RT, not against something that has a desktop OS.
My thoughts exactly. Although I'm new here I've been lurking for years and MR is really no longer a news site for Apple enthusiasts, it's become just another tech site and sadly Apple gets the bad end of the stick around here as far as the haters that love this place.
17W CPU, 24Wh battery. Is that 17W at 100% usage? I guess. So assuming 10% usage is about 1.7W (probably more due to overhead), the battery can power the processor by itself at 10% usage for 14.11 hours. Then you add the bigger screen and stuff, and it won't be good.
I don't claim to know how processor power consumption works, so these calculations are probably wrong, but whatever.
This will never succeed.
I got on the Windows RT bandwagon when it first dropped just to try it out, and it was really incredible at how less efficient (and thus productive) I was when using my Surface vs a regular laptop. The expensive keyboards were terrible, the kickstand is at a weird angle, can't sit on any surface that isn't hard like a table, windows 8 was very sluggish, no essential apps, syncing issues, bad UI. Just yuck. Needless to say I brought it right back to the store after trying to use it for a good 2 weeks.
I highly do not recommend any Windows 8 devices.
I got on the Windows RT bandwagon when it first dropped just to try it out, and it was really incredible at how less efficient (and thus productive) I was when using my Surface vs a regular laptop. The expensive keyboards were terrible, the kickstand is at a weird angle, can't sit on any surface that isn't hard like a table, windows 8 was very sluggish, no essential apps, syncing issues, bad UI. Just yuck. Needless to say I brought it right back to the store after trying to use it for a good 2 weeks.
I highly do not recommend any Windows 8 devices.
If you have trouble using Widows 7 then you probably aren't much use to the world. Stick to video games.
Let's not forget that the Ipad is just an over-sized iPhone. If all you want to do i surf the web, and post on twitter you're clearly better off with the iPad. On the other hand, you'll be able to run real programs on the Surface.
As others have pointed out, comparing this to the mac-book air is more apt.
I sense sarcasm, but Windows 7 is "usability hell" for me anyway (not that I don't know how to use it but because it's annoying to use), so I'd expect Win8 to be the same or worse.
If having the Start Menu go fullscreen instead of a tiny rectangle with a horreodous amount of menus buried in submenus makes it unusable....
That's understating the changes.
The storage options for the iDevices are pretty badly priced. Apple overcharges for iPod memory as they do for PC RAM. Android devices let you use your own SD card. It's much cheaper that way, and you don't have to worry about buying a model with too little space and running out.
Still, 128GB? Who's going to need that much for a netbook? Then again, Win8 is a big installation.
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Steve was wrong. I'm using a PC right now, and so are my friends. Unless he meant that we're in a post only-using-PC era? Or if he meant "Windows" when he said "PC"? I'm pretty sure he didn't mean that.