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I find alot of comments here amusing on both sides of the coin. I kept reading hoping i would find legitimate reasoning on either side. The endless posts going back and forth are ridiculous at best.
First let me qualify myself as being on neither side. I currently use an Iphone but also have a G1 from tmobile. I am mostly a mac user but also have windows and *nix machines under my care. I have used many different phone types and brands over the past years so while im surely not qualified as a phone expert I do know what i like.
That being said.
The bottom line here folks is that Apple DID NOT create the idea of an app store. The general delivery method IS NOT brand new. The type of installer used IS NOT new. The general installer concept as others on here have stated has been around since before 2000 in the linux community.
(need i say apt-get install foo or yum install foo or 'insert_your_favorite_package_manager_here install foo')
If all Apple has done here was a good marketing job then i would say*that the iphone app store will soon fade away since its just marketing and not backed up at all by proper implementation. I do not think we will see that happen anytime soon as I believe they have actually done a very good job with the app store on several levels and it shows with the number of people downloading apps. I hope that the other companies have the same success with their application delivery as well because such success is a wonderful thing for the user of the device. Not everyone can use an iphone and not everyone is suited to an iphone either so that leaves folks out there that would like the same kind of services with similar functionality on*their devices too....why should we force them to use an iphone.....perhaps they prefer tactile feedback when typing or they have no use for the touch screen ....ATT isnt available in their location or they simply prefer another carrier etc etc. The bottom line is competition and choice is good for us and good for the respective companies making the products as it forces them to keep on their toes to provide us with new features while driving the costs down as well.
Why should we waste time arguing over who is copying who ? That is something that happens in the mobile sector and technology sector day in and day out. Im sure that if you lay the products side by side the features will NOT be exactly the same therefore its not a duplicate but rather someone trying to improve on the idea or bring the same concept to a different platform.
I love my apple devices... I enjoy using my iphone and always find myself preferring it over my G1 or the blackberry i had. I have had an iphone since the 1st Gen and upgraded it when the 3G came out. I do not love it for the fact that its made by apple... I think that it is a well thought out device for the most part. I think their framework was done properly and the way the OS handles memory management is top notch for a mobile device (for expample if the app has a memory leak in it or it consumes too much memory the app terminates and your device remains usable) . I think that some (windows mobile especially) lack some of the core features that take away from the reliability that a mobile device needs to be considered a joy to use. Should i have to invoke a task manager to close an application on my device ? or should it just close when i click the close button ?
An idea is just that... its an idea. You can have the best idea in the world and no possible way to implement it. Why flame a company for using an idea that perhaps had a flawed implementation and improving on the idea some and using a plan for implementation that makes it successful ?
The bottom line is that no matter whether or not we like it ...the iphone is a success as well as the app store.
I think we get confused sometimes. I cannot find where Apple released a statement saying that it had the first 'App Store' for mobile devices anywhere. I also cannot find anywhere that Apple has released a statement saying they have the first touch screen enabled phone. If i am mistaken i would love to read the release.
Also for those folks out there that think Apple created OSX from the ground up are also mistaken.... the core of OSX is BSD which has been around for many moons and that is why i am a OSX user to this day.
I find alot of comments here amusing on both sides of the coin. I kept reading hoping i would find legitimate reasoning on either side. The endless posts going back and forth are ridiculous at best.
First let me qualify myself as being on neither side. I currently use an Iphone but also have a G1 from tmobile. I am mostly a mac user but also have windows and *nix machines under my care. I have used many different phone types and brands over the past years so while im surely not qualified as a phone expert I do know what i like.
That being said.
The bottom line here folks is that Apple DID NOT create the idea of an app store. The general delivery method IS NOT brand new. The type of installer used IS NOT new. The general installer concept as others on here have stated has been around since before 2000 in the linux community.
(need i say apt-get install foo or yum install foo or 'insert_your_favorite_package_manager_here install foo')
If all Apple has done here was a good marketing job then i would say*that the iphone app store will soon fade away since its just marketing and not backed up at all by proper implementation. I do not think we will see that happen anytime soon as I believe they have actually done a very good job with the app store on several levels and it shows with the number of people downloading apps. I hope that the other companies have the same success with their application delivery as well because such success is a wonderful thing for the user of the device. Not everyone can use an iphone and not everyone is suited to an iphone either so that leaves folks out there that would like the same kind of services with similar functionality on*their devices too....why should we force them to use an iphone.....perhaps they prefer tactile feedback when typing or they have no use for the touch screen ....ATT isnt available in their location or they simply prefer another carrier etc etc. The bottom line is competition and choice is good for us and good for the respective companies making the products as it forces them to keep on their toes to provide us with new features while driving the costs down as well.
Why should we waste time arguing over who is copying who ? That is something that happens in the mobile sector and technology sector day in and day out. Im sure that if you lay the products side by side the features will NOT be exactly the same therefore its not a duplicate but rather someone trying to improve on the idea or bring the same concept to a different platform.
I love my apple devices... I enjoy using my iphone and always find myself preferring it over my G1 or the blackberry i had. I have had an iphone since the 1st Gen and upgraded it when the 3G came out. I do not love it for the fact that its made by apple... I think that it is a well thought out device for the most part. I think their framework was done properly and the way the OS handles memory management is top notch for a mobile device (for expample if the app has a memory leak in it or it consumes too much memory the app terminates and your device remains usable) . I think that some (windows mobile especially) lack some of the core features that take away from the reliability that a mobile device needs to be considered a joy to use. Should i have to invoke a task manager to close an application on my device ? or should it just close when i click the close button ?
An idea is just that... its an idea. You can have the best idea in the world and no possible way to implement it. Why flame a company for using an idea that perhaps had a flawed implementation and improving on the idea some and using a plan for implementation that makes it successful ?
The bottom line is that no matter whether or not we like it ...the iphone is a success as well as the app store.
I think we get confused sometimes. I cannot find where Apple released a statement saying that it had the first 'App Store' for mobile devices anywhere. I also cannot find anywhere that Apple has released a statement saying they have the first touch screen enabled phone. If i am mistaken i would love to read the release.
Also for those folks out there that think Apple created OSX from the ground up are also mistaken.... the core of OSX is BSD which has been around for many moons and that is why i am a OSX user to this day.
