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We use it in a corporate environment and it works fine, we also use the "broadcast over NDI" feature as well as all phone calls as there are no more desk phones.
 
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Not clear how this is any better than what we already have with Zoom. It looks more like a dystopian sci-fi setting, like a bunch of people on a space ship to nowhere.
 
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I haven't used Teams on a PC (blocked at work), but the Mac version seems like crap - like missing a lot of functionality that I would expect any of these apps to have. Is the Mac version crippled or is even the PC version trash?

Anyway, I'm assuming this won't be coming to the Mac version anyway . . . which makes me wonder why it's on MacRumors.
What functionality are you missing? Teams has worked exceptionally well at NASA during the pandemic as a virtual workspace. We've transitioned away from being email-centric to Teams-centric in my organization. It's the primary application we use day-to-day for meetings, chats, file sharing, collaborative editing, wikis, and so forth. Not sure what might be wrong with the Mac version but we're nearly all PC users here, and it works great. In a year of heavy Teams use I can't recall it ever crashing -- I'm pretty sure it has, but I can't remember a circumstance so it seems pretty stable to me?

If you're using Teams just as an alternative to Zoom then you're missing 95% of what it's supposed to do. It's not a video chat client. It just happens to have video chats built-in. Nobody is expected to ditch Zoom for Teams on its own.
 
I may be missing something, but that picture doesn't look very appealing.
If you think this is unappealing, don't use the real product. It's even more deceiving than these marketing images.
The algorithm really puts them to shame.

Apple has done something much more clever with the background blur (aka Portrait Mode) in FaceTime in iOS 15. But Apple doesn't have a feature similar to this one, probably because they know it doesn't work well.
 
Just off the top of my head:

  • if you scroll up in message history, instead of fetching from a local cache, it keep asynchronously downloading more messages from the server (and sometimes, very slowly at that). Imagine if your mail client, when scrolling down your inbox, needed to keep looking for more messages, rather than keeping them all local. This makes it very annoying to scroll back to "hey, what did we talk about the other day?" scrub scrub scrub wait wait wait ugh. At least let me configure this.
FWIW, I think this is because you can delete (aka unsend) messages. Retrieving historical messages from a local cache would defeat the purpose. Not saying I'm pleased with it either, though.
 
FWIW, I think this is because you can delete (aka unsend) messages. Retrieving historical messages from a local cache would defeat the purpose. Not saying I'm pleased with it either, though.

I think that may play a role, yes, but they could cache the messages locally, ask the server if any messages have been recently deleted, and if not, simply use the local version.
 
What functionality are you missing? Teams has worked exceptionally well at NASA during the pandemic as a virtual workspace. We've transitioned away from being email-centric to Teams-centric in my organization. It's the primary application we use day-to-day for meetings, chats, file sharing, collaborative editing, wikis, and so forth. Not sure what might be wrong with the Mac version but we're nearly all PC users here, and it works great. In a year of heavy Teams use I can't recall it ever crashing -- I'm pretty sure it has, but I can't remember a circumstance so it seems pretty stable to me?

If you're using Teams just as an alternative to Zoom then you're missing 95% of what it's supposed to do. It's not a video chat client. It just happens to have video chats built-in. Nobody is expected to ditch Zoom for Teams on its own.
I'm focused on the videochat, because that's what I get invited to by people outside my organization. We don't have it internally, so don't know the PC version.

The Mac version for videochat seems weak compared to Zoom or Webex - can't configure layout of people, they're differently sized to fill screen, no person-to-person chat, no backgrounds (doesn't work on my Mac at least).

I don't know about the other "team" features - those may well be good. But I only use it because others insist.
 
I think that may play a role, yes, but they could cache the messages locally, ask the server if any messages have been recently deleted, and if not, simply use the local version.
Agreed. Overall though, I think MSFT did a magnificent job deploying this software in such a short period of time.
 
MSFT Teams is a horrific product. While this feature may appeal to some the lack of basic features and stability, especially on a Mac is pathetic.
I have it on Windows and Mac, and it's even worse on Windows. I'm glad I can use it on my Mac instead.
Must be a half-assed Electron app or something, because it's slow on both sides.
 
Teams is… okay.
Together mode I find hilariously awful - it makes nothing better and everything worse. It’s a total gimmick and I wish they would focus on stability and useful core features than chrome and cruft.
 
I'm focused on the videochat, because that's what I get invited to by people outside my organization. We don't have it internally, so don't know the PC version.

The Mac version for videochat seems weak compared to Zoom or Webex - can't configure layout of people, they're differently sized to fill screen, no person-to-person chat, no backgrounds (doesn't work on my Mac at least).

I don't know about the other "team" features - those may well be good. But I only use it because others insist.
Those for sure are standard features of Teams on Windows. I use both all the time when in meetings, though 95% of the time everyone has cameras off here (thankfully).
 
Requires me to install Rosetta on my M1 Mac. I am using my iPad instead, for now, just to avoid that annoyance. Would like native M1 on Mac support.
Good to know that it's not yet running natively on MacOS, was considering getting myself a new M2 Pro when they do come out
 
The iOS calendar for Teams kills me. You can't (unless I haven't found it) view your month. Just your scrolling week. Stupid.

Shifts doesn't integrate, so you get approved for a PTO day, it won't show you as out of office unless you manually set that up in Outlook. Stupid.

Actual audio and video meeting quality though, IMHO over this past year, much better than WebEx, Zoom, whatever other flavor.
 
Teams is an awful product, I'm prestty good with computers and software packages but teams is a mystery to me,every time i try to use it i get handfuls of problems, I'm just so glad Zoom is a much easier tool!
 
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