So they finally get that having an install base of like 10% will never get them any where. They are just not made to have first party hardware like apple and it hurts them. They tried to buy the talent and that seemly failed. The idea of selling license it out like android will get them no where when google gives the whole apple cart away. So they need to go back to the drawing board and just stay out of the mobile OS and focus on there core which is office and exchange the things that makes them money
They came out in 2010 with a modern UI before iOS or Android.
So basically Elop and Microsoft destroyed an independent Nokia which strengthened Samsung and was basically neutral for Apple. And I'm sure Elop left both Nokia and Microsoft a very rich man while tens of thousands were laid off. Nice job Ballmer.![]()
None too surprising really. Just look at Lumia line-up[/ur]. I can't tell which phone is what. If you ask me, Microsoft should make just one low-end phone (e.g., 640) with two screen sizes.
No kidding. Those poor people. It's the thing I hate most about working for "The Man". You're not even human anymore. You're a 'resource' and if the money isn't there, you can go starve in a ditch for all anyone at your company gives a rat's ass.
So i assume you think apple should get out of the Mac/OSX business since they have a 10% market share ...up from 6% .
Microsoft is on shaky ground when you start looking long term. Up to this point, Microsoft products have been mostly half ass and a me-too approach. Look at their Antivirus solution. It's in last place for detection and security which begs to question of why have an offering at all? Why waste resources on half ass implementations? Microsoft needs to trim down to a small product and service offering then dedicate resources into making them top notch.
When you look at the current generation, everyone is now growing up on Apple and Google products and services. These folks will be the next CIOs and CTOs which means there is a good chance they won't choose Microsoft at all for their tech needs.
You really don't know what a monopoly is do you?
You caught me! Actually, my user name is misspelled. I forgot the e-mail address/password I used for it, and I was far to lazy to pursue it, so I made a synonym username.Did you just misspell your username "last name"?
(sorry, not to be rude, just found it odd)
An independent Nokia didn't have much time left, they started struggling years before they got accquired by MS.So basically Elop and Microsoft destroyed an independent Nokia which strengthened Samsung and was basically neutral for Apple. And I'm sure Elop left both Nokia and Microsoft a very rich man while tens of thousands were laid off. Nice job Ballmer.![]()
Well, I guess they'll have an opportunity to see what it's like to manage a product line with well under 10% of the market share. But Microsoft shouldn't be counted out quite yet.
I remember buying a Power Mac 9600 in '97 I think it was and telling my wife that would be our last Mac...because the company would be bankrupt and out of business before I was ready to replace it.
She wanted me to sell our (relatively small amount of) stock in the company but I resisted, figuring Apple needed every dollar to try to stay afloat.
The rest as they say is history....the iMac came out a year later followed by all the other ground-breaking products and Apple became the world's most valuable company.
And that Apple stock I hung on to put three kids through Ivy League schools.
So I wouldn't put a nail in Microsoft's phone coffin quite yet. But they'll need competent senior management and that seems to have been in very short supply for years at Microsoft. Then again, we can point to some similar periods at Apple.
I don't know where you live but here in UK you see plenty of Lumia devices in the wild. Lot more than you can see Apple watches that Apple supposedly sold millions of.
The iPhone was out in 2007.
Welcome to the future where we return to feudalism, serving at the pleasure of the 1%. Or you could just start start your own multinational corporation I suppose.No kidding. Those poor people. It's the thing I hate most about working for "The Man". You're not even human anymore. You're a 'resource' and if the money isn't there, you can go starve in a ditch for all anyone at your company gives a rat's ass.
I wonder how this will affect the downtown Sunnyvale office, or the Mountain View office where (by my understanding) a lot of hardware is developed....
Bravo on having some actual good ideas and a well thought out response.Well, I'm a minion, not the ruler, and always have been, so I'm possibly the wrong one to ask seeing as how I lack the knowledge. Truthfully, I get that you can't keep paying people if the cash isn't there. I get that circumstances sometimes result in crappy outcomes. That's just life.
However, I think that, in a broad-reaching way, companies have become far more skewed and heartless in recent decades. I think that in a company the size of Microsoft, there's probably a little leeway when it comes to reassignment of talented people. I don't think that laying of 7K+ people is necessary. I've seen it time and again where a company has layoffs one month, and hires the next. They don't hire as many as were laid off, but they do find roles for people. Why not invest some energy into minimizing that turnaround? Further to that, why not give the employees some say? Maybe some would leave willingly to pursue other things leaving roles open for those who want to stay or would be hurt by leaving.
My dad once told me that back in the 50s when the factory he worked at had to let people go, they would often let go the youngest and most talented, the reason being that those people could far more easily bounce back from a setback and handle it than an older guy with a family to feed. Companies do not consider that at all anymore. People stopped being people and became numbers on a spreadsheet.
I don't believe that layoffs or job losses are avoidable and we can somehow all live in utopia, but I do think there's a space between that and showing up for work and being told you can just leave and we don't care where you go. And at the same time the bigwigs are writing politically correct canned statements about "our former colleagues" going through "transitions" about people whose names they never bothered to learn.
Honestly, I think they can do better.