Yahoo is providing the push email services. I'd imagine that the iPhone could check other accounts, but you'd have to take the initiative to pull new emails from the server. If you go with Yahoo then, well, the emails are pushed out to you.
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Yahoo is providing the push email services. I'd imagine that the iPhone could check other accounts, but you'd have to take the initiative to pull new emails from the server. If you go with Yahoo then, well, the emails are pushed out to you.
I don't understand...Why is it so bad that Microsoft is talking about buying Yahoo? Are all these people voting negative simply because they don't like Microsoft?
I don't see why this is such a huge deal. I can see the potential Yahoo iPhone conflicts but I am sure there will be a resolution.
I don't see why this is such a huge deal. I can see the potential Yahoo iPhone conflicts but I am sure there will be a resolution.
I wouldn't suggest Google pairing with .Mac, but I can think of some nice enhancements *I* would make...
More webspace, cheaper price, standard Apple reliability.
I think that sums it up for most of us.
-Clive
You see this post?
$108 billion or $147 billion? Either way, that's a hunk of change. But, as I said, I don't know much about business. But, you're right Google probably wouldn't allow a M$ takeover.
I wonder if the users of yahoo mail are frequent email users though. I'd rather have the computer savy gmailers than the grandmas on yahoo mail. They aren't your market.
Although this is not Mac news. It would be bad news for Yahoo if it did happen. It makes you wonder if MS would keep the Yahoo brand or just take all their intellectual property and incorporated it with MSN and Hotmail.
Cause we all know what happened to Hotmail after MS bought it a few years back.
Cause we all know what happened to Hotmail after MS bought it a few years back.
Oh I don't really know, the Google products list is huge. .Mac is basically Google's game and Apple could let Google do what they do best and stick to the ever-expanding Apple catalog.
I think they should make .Mac free.
Now... re: MS buying Yahoo.... I think that's hillarious for New Zealand as up until recently Telecom used to use MSN and now have changed to Yahoo.
I can see it now: MSN Search and HotMail on iPhones instead of Yahoo and Yahoo Mail
Heh, maybe you are right - this might be MS trying to get a piece of the iPhone action! (Ballmer was just putting us off the scent)
P.S. Has anyone used Live Search? It seems to throw up a tiny amount of results and be next to useless when compared to Google.
Not a toy
First, Apple isn't limiting the iPhone to "computer savy" people. Certainly, tech savy folks will be early adopters, but the iPhone will not be a sucess if it is relegated to only geeks with money. Apple's appeal is they can make something that is technical and powerful and make it easy for non-tech people to use. The iPod started off as a geek toy and is now in the mainstream with mom and dad and even grandma and grandpa using them. There are all kinds of new an interesting uses of the iPod beyond just listening to music. How do you think Apple can sell 10 million a quarter and keep those numbers going? Because the same non-computer savy people using Yahoo! Mail are buying them too.
Secondly, the iPhone, like other Apple products, is intended to create a market where there wasn't one before. No one knew they needed an iPod until they bought one, and then they discovered how useful it was and bought another. Apple has a history of disrupting markets because they change the rules and people's perceptions of said market. The iPhone will be no different. Any feature that has the potential to appeal to the masses is an important part of Apple's strategy.
And along with that dynamic, Apple has the ability to create secondary markets for other companies that align with them. Perhaps internet mail is not used that often by some, but a device like the iPhone has the potential to change that. It holds the potential to reinvigorate existing technologies by taking advantage of them and changing how they are used. Yahoo! Mail stands a good chance of becoming a more important technology for Yahoo! by virtue of millions of iPhone users wanting to use it with their phone.
We shouldn't underestimate the potential this device has to completely change the way we use and think of a phone. The iPhone is not just a geek toy.
First, Apple isn't limiting the iPhone to "computer savy" people. Certainly, tech savy folks will be early adopters, but the iPhone will not be a sucess if it is relegated to only geeks with money. Apple's appeal is they can make something that is technical and powerful and make it easy for non-tech people to use. The iPod started off as a geek toy and is now in the mainstream with mom and dad and even grandma and grandpa using them. There are all kinds of new an interesting uses of the iPod beyond just listening to music. How do you think Apple can sell 10 million a quarter and keep those numbers going? Because the same non-computer savy people using Yahoo! Mail are buying them too.
Secondly, the iPhone, like other Apple products, is intended to create a market where there wasn't one before. No one knew they needed an iPod until they bought one, and then they discovered how useful it was and bought another. Apple has a history of disrupting markets because they change the rules and people's perceptions of said market. The iPhone will be no different. Any feature that has the potential to appeal to the masses is an important part of Apple's strategy.
And along with that dynamic, Apple has the ability to create secondary markets for other companies that align with them. Perhaps internet mail is not used that often by some, but a device like the iPhone has the potential to change that. It holds the potential to reinvigorate existing technologies by taking advantage of them and changing how they are used. Yahoo! Mail stands a good chance of becoming a more important technology for Yahoo! by virtue of millions of iPhone users wanting to use it with their phone.
We shouldn't underestimate the potential this device has to completely change the way we use and think of a phone. The iPhone is not just a geek toy.
No, that's not what I meant at all. I am saying .Mac is not worth what I pay for it and it needs to be reworked. Who better to do that then Google. Web services is Googles game and based on .Mac its not a game Apple is so great at. They could also, obviously, be the answer to this perceived e-mail problem that could arise from the MS Yahoo purchase.
If MS were to shut down Y! messenger and incorporate its userbase into MSN then it would truly dominate the IM market. And that is not a good thing. At least not if you're a Mac user.
I'll agree .mac isn't worth the money (hence why I don't purchase it), but I don't think google is the solution to .mac's problems. I think APPLE needs to work on it themselves, there's a thread that I was in a while ago where one user stated that apple could greatly improve .mac with not a lot of effort. I agree with that user, and I'd love to see apple actually make a move to fix .mac.
Yep, I made some of these comments. It would not cost Apple very much to enhance .mac especially at the enhanced cost/benefit ratio it would give Apple as more prople would sign up.
Examples are plenty, like an integrated web editable calendar, notes, easier calendar sharing, server side spam filter, push email, integration of .mac services into OS X like iCards in mail, more sync options, etc. or even a VOIP service with iChat.
It's really not hard to improve upon .mac and it is definitely not all about the iDisk space.
I don't understand...Why is it so bad that Microsoft is talking about buying Yahoo? Are all these people voting negative simply because they don't like Microsoft?
That's my take. For years, my primary email's a Yahoo! address (I reluctantly pay the stupid POP annual fee because I don't want to go through the hassle of switching email addresses). Meanwhile, I found the Hotmail of years ago to be horrible, and that's before I switched to Macs.
If Microsoft swallows Yahoo!, it might be time for me to get a Gmail address...
Google Flickr
Hmmm... my Flickr Pro account in coming up for renewal and I was already annoyed about being forced to drop my Flickr username in favor of a crappy, far longer Yahoo username.
I guess this development makes the decision for me.
Can anyone recommend a good Flickr alternative?
I'd go Picassa if Google got their finger out and released a Mac version.
Hmmm... my Flickr Pro account in coming up for renewal and I was already annoyed about being forced to drop my Flickr username in favor of a crappy, far longer Yahoo username.
I guess this development makes the decision for me.
Can anyone recommend a good Flickr alternative?
I'd go Picassa if Google got their finger out and released a Mac version.