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Microsoft Updates Office 2016 Apps With Security Fixes, Feature Improvements [Updated]

El Capitain and Office 2016 have been largely unusable, since I stupidly did both updates. Outlook, PowerPont, Excel, and even Work keep crashing. This has rendered my main system more or less unusable, for the last two or so weeks.

Hope this addresses those issues?
 
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Looks like I'm going to be sticking with Pages, Numbers and Keynote until this gets sorted. I don't understand how Word/Excel/Powerpoint can be so awful, but OneNote continues to be flawless.
 
wubsylol said:
Looks like I'm going to be sticking with Pages, Numbers and Keynote until this gets sorted. I don't understand how Word/Excel/Powerpoint can be so awful, but OneNote continues to be flawless.
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OneNote ... the unsung hero of the Office suite for many years. The number of people who kinda look at me weird for using it, and then discover what it actually is for the first time.....
 
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jblagden said:
Exactly!

Everyone in the business world requires Microsoft Office because it’s the de facto standard. Besides, Microsoft essentially saved Apple in 1997 by making Microsoft Office for Mac. As much as I hate Microsoft, Microsoft Office still is necessary, and it probably always will be.
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If you think MS Office saved the Mac, you need to get your head screwed back on buddy.
 
I had the '16 beta since the beginning and i got to say that the final version is buggier. I struggle every single day opening documents who don't want to open.
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
Not really.

I work at IBM and we actively encourage using Lotus Symphony instead of Office. We also use Open Office and iWork. Google Drive is the only thing that we say you absolutely should not use (because Google scrapes the documents).

And IBM moves at glacier speeds. If IBM not only allows, but encourages, using alternatives to Microsoft Office, I think that most companies have probably stopped considering Microsoft Office to be a must-have.
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Of course IBM recommends Lotus, they acquired them in 1995.

The fact is a Word, Excel, Powerpoint document is the international standard for office productivity. Sure PDF has changed that slightly but Office will always be around.

I'm not saying you MUST use Office, because plenty of programs can modify a MS Office document like you had stated. The day you can send a Pages document instead of a Word .doc would be the day all crime in the world would end.
 
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The KB article doesn't mention ribbon customization anymore. I couldn't get it to work so I wonder if was in the release notes included accidentally. I also couldn't find any documentation for it.

Ribbon custom XML is a dev feature, it's not user facing per se. It allows developers to create custom ribbon tabs, groups and buttons and hook buttons up to macros in the Workbook. (At least on Windows)
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
Not really.

I work at IBM and we actively encourage using Lotus Symphony instead of Office. We also use Open Office and iWork. Google Drive is the only thing that we say you absolutely should not use (because Google scrapes the documents).

And IBM moves at glacier speeds. If IBM not only allows, but encourages, using alternatives to Microsoft Office, I think that most companies have probably stopped considering Microsoft Office to be a must-have.
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But in Windows world, Microsoft office is still the king of all.
 
ncrow said:
The KB article doesn't mention ribbon customization anymore. I couldn't get it to work so I wonder if was in the release notes included accidentally. I also couldn't find any documentation for it.

Ribbon custom XML is a dev feature, it's not user facing per se. It allows developers to create custom ribbon tabs, groups and buttons and hook buttons up to macros in the Workbook. (At least on Windows)
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There is a new (I think) Developer ribbon. Perhaps this is what it was referring to? Massive letdown––the fact that I can't create a compact toolbar like in older versions is my main complaint.

DotCom2 said:
Well I hate to say it, but it actually did.
You need to read up on the history of the whole thing.
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OT, but...it did in part, but in no way was it solely responsible. Steve Jobs coming back and bringing with him a modern OS, stripping down the convoluted product line, and bringing back focus were all far more important.
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
Not really.

I work at IBM and we actively encourage using Lotus Symphony instead of Office. We also use Open Office and iWork. Google Drive is the only thing that we say you absolutely should not use (because Google scrapes the documents).

And IBM moves at glacier speeds. If IBM not only allows, but encourages, using alternatives to Microsoft Office, I think that most companies have probably stopped considering Microsoft Office to be a must-have.
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So IBM encourages users to use it's OWN "office type replacement"? That's a surprise. :p I wouldn't touch Lotus anything. Not a fan of Office either. Too much bloat. Google docs is just horrible for anything other than basic. Not sure there is a "good" alternative period. Office seems to be the lesser of evils.

I use and like Pages, Keynote and Numbers myself.
 
Cougarcat said:
There is a new (I think) Developer ribbon. Perhaps this is what it was referring to? Massive letdown––the fact that I can't create a compact toolbar like in older versions is my main complaint.



OT, but...it did in part, but in no way was it solely responsible. Steve Jobs coming back and bringing with him a modern OS, stripping down the convoluted product line, and bringing back focus were all far more important.
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I agree with you.
 
Cougarcat said:
There is a new (I think) Developer ribbon. Perhaps this is what it was referring to? Massive letdown––the fact that I can't create a compact toolbar like in older versions is my main complaint.



OT, but...it did in part, but in no way was it solely responsible. Steve Jobs coming back and bringing with him a modern OS, stripping down the convoluted product line, and bringing back focus were all far more important.
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As with most things in life, it's never just one thing but a combination so I will agree with you there.
 
AbSoluTc said:
So IBM encourages users to use it's OWN "office type replacement"? That's a surprise. :p I wouldn't touch Lotus anything. Not a fan of Office either. Too much bloat. Google docs is just horrible for anything other than basic. Not sure there is a "good" alternative period. Office seems to be the lesser of evils.

I use and like Pages, Keynote and Numbers myself.
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As long as I realise pages cannot paste a coloured table from Wikipedia correctly while ms office can, I abandon iWorks immediately after that.
 
So what's the word on compatibility? Has anyone tried it yet on El Cap? It's the only thing holding my work iMac back right now. Unfortunately we're exchange heavy with everything, shared calendars, Lync, etc around here. Pretty lame.
 
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When Office 2011 for Mac runs smoother and loads at least 5 x faster on the same hardware this makes you realise Office 2016 is not really acceptable. The new version should load as fast if not faster on the same hardware as Office 2011. This is simply not acceptable. Plus considering the development time - over 4 years this makes it even harder to swallow. Meanwhile Office 2011 runs on El Capitan with no issues at all.
 
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Downloaded and installed.
Looking good so far. I wish that the updates were smaller in size!
 
chrisbb said:
Downloaded and installed.
Looking good so far. I wish that the updates were smaller in size!
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Maybe they just repackage the whole installer with fixes and updates.
This means you literally reinstall all updated apps once every time you update.
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
Not really.

I work at IBM and we actively encourage using Lotus Symphony instead of Office. We also use Open Office and iWork. Google Drive is the only thing that we say you absolutely should not use (because Google scrapes the documents).

And IBM moves at glacier speeds. If IBM not only allows, but encourages, using alternatives to Microsoft Office, I think that most companies have probably stopped considering Microsoft Office to be a must-have.
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In all fairness, you should use the full product name for Symphony, which is "IBM Lotus Symphony". Now that we have clarified whose product Symphony is, it should hardly be a surprise for anybody that IBM champions one of their own products.

Besides that, except for a few old Lotus customers who have too huge investments in Lotus Domino and the like, the Lotus products have long since vanished from the public radar.

A corporation the size of IBM actually encourages the use of iWork? I believe it when I read the official memo from IBM's upper management. That some department manager doesn't care what's being used I believe. That iWork is deemed a corporate/enterprise-ready application, I don't believe.

And even if IBM does encourage the use of some alternatives over MS Office, it simply isn't representative. Google also has tens of thousands of employees and unless you are a developer for Windows software at Google, they do not want their employees to use Windows on their notebooks/workstations. That's hardly representative for the rest of the world. Google has the resources to support whatever they deem fit, but not every company is an IT elephant like Google and has the resources to develop their own software stack.
 
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