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Microsoft Was Willing to Bring Xbox-Exclusive Games to iPhone via xCloud
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Stop this nonsense of Apple, Microsoft … xCloud users … like we are properties of these companies.
We are people that use multiple services from multiple companies.
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You could also use Rust for WASM ?I'll skip because I can't C# anymore.
(but really I’m a .Net guy so maybe I should be more vocally supportive of my MSFT overlords. Blazor, everyone. Blazor is the future!)
This isn’t an issue. The android version of the xcloud app already restricts any type of IAP. MS was perfectly fine with doing the same for iOS.
Lots of xcloud users are also apple customers. So I don’t think it’s that cut and dry. It’s definitely a balancing act. To be honest xcloud via a native app would allow much better parental controls than via browser. MS would have definitely honored age range restrictions, via limiting games available via the app. To be honest I’m not apposed to the individual app per streaming game. People usually only alternate between 1-3 games until they move on to another game.
I’ve always find it quite interesting how, as long as one is willing to ignore the differences between two things, they’re exactly the same.
Like, a tomato and a Chrysler LeBaron. Ignoring all the differences between them, you won’t be able to find a difference between them.
Like, a tomato and a Chrysler LeBaron. Ignoring all the differences between them, you won’t be able to find a difference between them.
As a customer I want to own the software. This sort of service is another step backward for consumers.
Yes they do, rarely. Amazon is the first example I can think of. Still glad they're not doing it more.
They're different use cases. Microsoft sells these individual games through the app. They don't charge you per app you run over VNC. It's about how humans are using it, not the technology. To a user, xCloud is very close to running the app on the phone.
But even with Amazon, though Amazon brought up the concern and got changes made, Apple changed their rules not only for Amazon, but for anyone else that comes along with an “Amazon type” business model.
We can also argue the opposite. As long as one is willing to ignore what they have in common they are totally different.
The thing is, some people have a very sectarian view of things focusing only on one part of the equation. That is how they feel secure … gives them a sense of belonging and preservation … this makes them easier to manipulate.
Others don’t need that. Respecting the differences while acknowledging the commonality.
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Agreed.
Yet, once a little girl was asked to draw a Chicken. She draw a KFC nugget. True story. So if enough people do it, does it make it truthfull? Of course not, it would just make it easier to sell dogs as chicken.
The truth is that the difference between a game stream, a copy of a game (app) and a game is functionally useful. As it always has been.
There is no vantage point of the user in painting game streams as the same as Apps, as there isn’t for video streams of video copies. People also understand the difference between using a web App and a native App … they did with Java apps. Incredibly people also understand the difference between say Netflix service and a Netflix apps, Uber service and Uber App. So much so that to access services people are open to pay for apps, heck … are open to pay for devices. You see people are not as dumb. By virtue of the digital people still need to use a nice OS, nice câmera and device like SJ predicted, but know very much the difference between iOS and say Apple Mail, heck even App Store.
Still this does not mean that things needs to be sold separately or together (Bundle). That is driven by product / service sales strategy rather then nature of each product or service. Some practices are acceptable, other aren’t in time. All human practices start as acceptable.
I understand that for Apple such hammer (App Store) / nail (App) relationship would be advantageous for all the reasons already explored. But the above is no less true because of it.
The App Store is like a hammer. Apple holds the hammer so everything needs to be a nail for them to charge on top… case in case everything needs to be reduced to an App even if its is not (game stream, a file, a video, a video stream … whatever). They will try eschew alll value / everything digital / chickens into a container called iOS App as much as possible and say “we are responsible for 30% of its value” … businesses, platforms, whatever. I know I would in such position given the possibility.
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If one is fond of arguing, absolutely anything can be argued! Even that water, once you exclude all the ways in which the two are different, is exactly the same as an all expenses paid trip to Aruba. Arguing a point doesn’t make it so, though. It just makes it an argument.
How about this. Amazon does a LOT of different things, they’re in a lot of various and sundry businesses. Pick one that has an advantage over competition where the App Store is related and I’ll go “AH! I hadn’t thought of that! Good on you!”
Two ways. First, had the plan of every app being in the App Store gone through they’d be making money off each app sale. Second, for those who signed up for the pass through iOS apple would get a cut.
The other more handwavy and debatable way would be that it would attract more people to spend money at the store because it is easy and accessible. Much less concrete tho.
The plan was actually more like what Netflix Games has going now. You can sign up outside the app, even already have an existing subscription, and when you pull up the app, you sign in and get access to the games, no more money changes hands for you to start playing.
Completely stupid to run native, ported, inferior versions of the same game, and maintaining absurd amount of code based on an ridiculous decision
Yes. Agreed. A second ago you proved just that.
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Don’t worry about it.
The information is there for anyone earnestly looking for it.
Don’t worry about it.
Wow, now you are going mystical. Let me get some app herbs. Ummm, yes now I see it. What will be will be In the ways of the app.
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Apple will never dominate the gaming market.
Apple has the lead in the casual gaming market which is where the bulk of the revenue is accrued. Not exactly something to be proud of, but I think the impact of their their billion strong install base continues to be underestimated in situations like this.
How does one “dominate” the gaming market anyways? Revenue? Market share? Whichever platform can run doom eternal?