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Microsoft Zune Phone - Holiday 2007?
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Actually the FULL Version of Vista Ultimate costs $670, that's more than a Mac Mini, how ridiculus is that? And how unfair is it that you have to pay a premium to gain full use out of your pc?
And I agree with whoever said that Microsoft should stop broadening their interests. If all they did was make an OS (Windows) maybe it would be worth using.
Talk about a rush job!
Not even in development, yet they plan to release it before end of 2007?
Bring it on M$, Verizon is waiting for you.
Not even in development, yet they plan to release it before end of 2007?
Bring it on M$, Verizon is waiting for you.
I pulled this line out of the article.
"That gives Microsoft about nine months to get everything together, an entirely possible feat". Oh ya, like Vista. It took five years and they are going to bring a phone in nine months.
The biggest problem with the Zune is Microsoft hurried it to the market place. That's why it is such a dud. I just found out today about 50% of the Zune content can even be squirted. Squirted is Microsoft's term for transferring the content. The whole social thing. Because of DRM 50% of the content cannot be sent to someone, they have to download their own.
If they try and do a phone in nine months are they going to have a good product? They'll produce a horrible product to fill up our land fills. However, with their marketing power and customer base they can bring poor quality products to the market and then spend years enhancing them.
"That gives Microsoft about nine months to get everything together, an entirely possible feat". Oh ya, like Vista. It took five years and they are going to bring a phone in nine months.
The biggest problem with the Zune is Microsoft hurried it to the market place. That's why it is such a dud. I just found out today about 50% of the Zune content can even be squirted. Squirted is Microsoft's term for transferring the content. The whole social thing. Because of DRM 50% of the content cannot be sent to someone, they have to download their own.
If they try and do a phone in nine months are they going to have a good product? They'll produce a horrible product to fill up our land fills. However, with their marketing power and customer base they can bring poor quality products to the market and then spend years enhancing them.
err, this would be a pretty serious thread to iphone (and thus the entire ipod brand)
The Zune is a decent player and has attracted good reviews and interest from PC tech heads. It is also only their first attempt, MS showed with the xbox that they are willing to throw money at a market to establish themselves in the long term. They have also showed that they can develop hardware in a very short space of time regardless of cost.
The iPhone looks like an amazing piece of kit, but it has deal breaking flaws for many people:
No 3G (yet)
Only 4-8 GB storage
VERY expensive
Locked to one network
For a Zune phone to be a threat it wouldn't need to have all the amazing iPhone features, it could simply be an MP3/Video Player capable of making calls and sending e-mails with a 20-30 GB capacity and lower price.
Should they go the whole hog and make a PDA phone, they would be able to call upon all the experience they have in the mobile software business already.
Bitch all you want about idea stealing but you must never underestimate MS.
For me capacity and price are the biggest problem with the iPhone. Apple will surely have to broaden the iPhone line to appeal to average customers. An iPhone nano seems like an obvious move.
The Zune is a decent player and has attracted good reviews and interest from PC tech heads. It is also only their first attempt, MS showed with the xbox that they are willing to throw money at a market to establish themselves in the long term. They have also showed that they can develop hardware in a very short space of time regardless of cost.
The iPhone looks like an amazing piece of kit, but it has deal breaking flaws for many people:
No 3G (yet)
Only 4-8 GB storage
VERY expensive
Locked to one network
For a Zune phone to be a threat it wouldn't need to have all the amazing iPhone features, it could simply be an MP3/Video Player capable of making calls and sending e-mails with a 20-30 GB capacity and lower price.
Should they go the whole hog and make a PDA phone, they would be able to call upon all the experience they have in the mobile software business already.
Bitch all you want about idea stealing but you must never underestimate MS.
For me capacity and price are the biggest problem with the iPhone. Apple will surely have to broaden the iPhone line to appeal to average customers. An iPhone nano seems like an obvious move.
And in other news...
Microsoft intends to develop and sell a Microsoft branded set top box, called MicrosoftTV, socks for the Zune, a microzune that attaches with a clip, a suite of multimedia software for Vista called msLife, and a Microsoft branded black turtleneck.
The turtleneck is expected in 3-5 years, as the Vista development team is working on it. It will, however, have exciting "next-gen" features, like a pocket.
Microsoft intends to develop and sell a Microsoft branded set top box, called MicrosoftTV, socks for the Zune, a microzune that attaches with a clip, a suite of multimedia software for Vista called msLife, and a Microsoft branded black turtleneck.
The turtleneck is expected in 3-5 years, as the Vista development team is working on it. It will, however, have exciting "next-gen" features, like a pocket.
Microsoft will make it!
You all have it wrong! They will make it by christmas 2007. They will ship 500. It will cost $1250.00. They will spend 600 million to market it. Bill Gates will then go on the Today show and say it is the first phone ever!! He will make even more money, because dumb s**ts will still buy OS, because PCs are cheeper?
You all have it wrong! They will make it by christmas 2007. They will ship 500. It will cost $1250.00. They will spend 600 million to market it. Bill Gates will then go on the Today show and say it is the first phone ever!! He will make even more money, because dumb s**ts will still buy OS, because PCs are cheeper?
I agree with you. I was just saying that MS has had a mobile phone OS for years, and it is pretty popular.
Zune OS?
So Microsoft is building a smartphone using the "Zune OS"? Is that based on Windows mobile? I haven't paid attention to the handheld market in years, but it seems odd they wouldn't use Windows mobile.
So Microsoft is building a smartphone using the "Zune OS"? Is that based on Windows mobile? I haven't paid attention to the handheld market in years, but it seems odd they wouldn't use Windows mobile.
MS can handle the faster turn around since that dont have to think up new features.
The famous Pirates of Silicon Valley clip..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im589uTchKs
now....Can anyone tell me that ANYTHING has changed in the modus operandi of M$?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im589uTchKs
now....Can anyone tell me that ANYTHING has changed in the modus operandi of M$?
WM5 is a turd, so ZunePhone probably will be too
It's not that odd - WM5 is a piece of garbage. I've got a so-called "smart" phone and the MS PDA OS is a terrible memory pig that offers very little additional functionality on its own (like a 3-pound Swiss Army knife that has only a broken corkscrew and a dull blade).
MS != MicroSoft
MS == Mediocrity & Shaftiness
PS. Microsoft, how about you support all the stuff I have legitimately purchased from you and doesn't work instead of asking me to buy more stuff that probably won't work. Thanks to you (and not PC manufacturers) I switched to Apple a year ago and haven't looked back... the one favor you've done for me since I've been a PAYING customer for the past 15+ years.
It's not that odd - WM5 is a piece of garbage. I've got a so-called "smart" phone and the MS PDA OS is a terrible memory pig that offers very little additional functionality on its own (like a 3-pound Swiss Army knife that has only a broken corkscrew and a dull blade).
MS != MicroSoft
MS == Mediocrity & Shaftiness
PS. Microsoft, how about you support all the stuff I have legitimately purchased from you and doesn't work instead of asking me to buy more stuff that probably won't work. Thanks to you (and not PC manufacturers) I switched to Apple a year ago and haven't looked back... the one favor you've done for me since I've been a PAYING customer for the past 15+ years.
No, "cheap" in unimportant to most people. what matters more is the amount of the monthly payments. For example: They ask "What does this phone cost?" Answer: "$40 per month for two years." So they sign up not even thinking they are spending about a $1K. Cheap? Not really, not compared to the dimes we used to put in pay phones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5oGaZIKYvo
"How do you compete with that?" look at his face, so odd they are deciding to do this. Will the zune have a keyboard? lol ****in ballmer.
"How do you compete with that?" look at his face, so odd they are deciding to do this. Will the zune have a keyboard? lol ****in ballmer.
In future, parents can punish their kids by giving them zPhone! so it crashes, freezes, drop calls, viruses,....... and plainly zucks and kids will hate it and therefore wont yap too much on their phones. Hence save money for parents 
"not in development yet"... "to be released this holiday"...? wow. did steve jobs say he's been excited about the iPhone for 2 and a half years? that would mean it's been in development for atlest 2 years.
WTF are you talking about? The full retail Vista Ultimate costs $399.99 (USD).
It's no surprise they want to make a Zune phone (whassit called, "Zone"?
), but a launch by this winter? And they don't even have anything in development? Sure......I agree, but the scrolling will be controlled by a manual slider on the side of the turd phone.
