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Google isn't an hardware nor a software company.
Google business is data mining through services, so it's absolutely coherent for them to give services to Apple's users also.
BlackBerry is getting extinction, that's the reason why they are offering services.
But Microsoft ? They should try to gain customers for their own hardware and software platform...

Google isn't a software company? Ok. I'm not sure I can agree with that. How they use their software is another matter. But I'm pretty sure they are a software company +.
 
Google isn't a software company? Ok. I'm not sure I can agree with that. How they use their software is another matter. But I'm pretty sure they are a software company +.

They are not a software company.
Android is a mean.
Every service they are offering is just that: a tool for their real business.
Data mining.
 
competition is always good, so bring on cortana. Having said that, it would seem that microsoft is giving up on its platform if it is going to migrate everything to iOS. Since their history is of a software house and not a hardware house, maybe this makes sense in the long term. Not sure.

Still unless apple allows me to switch which DA will be the default, I dont see this getting huge traction.

Right, there can't be much competition with Siri on iOS as long as she gets a button shortcut dedicated to her and can control the system outside of the sandbox.
 
Vista was released over 8 years ago, soon to be three generations ago.

8 years already? Thank you for making me feel old...

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Seriously Microsoft, how long before you give up? Really, either make a quality product that people want or throw the towel in.

I am no friend of M$, but they are indeed improving. There's no reason for them to call it quit.
 
That's great news. Will allow the MS band to use voice controls with the iPhone.
 
They are not a software company.
Android is a mean.
Every service they are offering is just that: a tool for their real business.
Data mining.

except by that logic, Microsoft, or even Apple don't participate in Data mining either and can't benefit from cross platform interoperability.

Unfortunately, thats not true. All of the companies participate in Data Mining. Including Apple and Microsoft.

The more people using your software, regardless of platform, the better. even if your primary mode of income is elsewhere.

welcome to the digital age.
 
They are not a software company.
Android is a mean.
Every service they are offering is just that: a tool for their real business.
Data mining.

They're a software company. Just because they use their software as a means to advertise and aggregate data doesn't make them any less of a software company.

It's like saying MS isn't an a software company because they deal primarily in enterprise solutions.
 
except by that logic, Microsoft, or even Apple don't participate in Data mining either and can't benefit from cross platform interoperability.

Unfortunately, thats not true. All of the companies participate in Data Mining. Including Apple and Microsoft.

The more people using your software, regardless of platform, the better. even if your primary mode of income is elsewhere.

welcome to the digital age.
I didn't say Apple or Microsoft aren't participating in data mining.
I said that isn't their primary business.
 
I didn't say Apple or Microsoft aren't participating in data mining.
I said that isn't their primary business.

sur,e but doesn't exclude them from attempting to expand their reach on data collection by cross platform applications.

it makes perfect sense. just because something isn't your primary business, doesn't mean you can't persue it.

just like Phones weren't Apple's business till they came out with an iPhone, or Cars aren't their primary business, but that rumour mill sure is spinning.

it makes perfect sense for Microsoft to attempt to get Apple users using Cortana instead of Siri.

wether or not it's actually beneficial to the end user is a different story. haven't used cortana to make a judgement on it's usefull ness
 
They're a software company. Just because they use their software as a means to advertise and aggregate data doesn't make them any less of a software company.

It's like saying MS isn't an a software company because they deal primarily in enterprise solutions.

Like it or not, they aren't a software company.

Your example about Microsoft is a non sense: enterprise solutions are both software and hardware. Microsoft actually is a software and hardware company.

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sur,e but doesn't exclude them from attempting to expand their reach on data collection by cross platform applications.

it makes perfect sense. just because something isn't your primary business, doesn't mean you can't persue it.

just like Phones weren't Apple's business till they came out with an iPhone, or Cars aren't their primary business, but that rumour mill sure is spinning.

it makes perfect sense for Microsoft to attempt to get Apple users using Cortana instead of Siri.

wether or not it's actually beneficial to the end user is a different story. haven't used cortana to make a judgement on it's usefull ness
I would agree if Microsoft has a 20% of market share on mobile.

But in this case that are fighting to survive in this market, and I think it would be better to keep some exclusives to their platform.
 
Like it or not, they aren't a software company.

Your example about Microsoft is a non sense: enterprise solutions are both software and hardware. Microsoft actually is a software and hardware company.

My nonsense example is following along with your logic.

Google makes software. Ergo, they're a software company. It doesn't matter what the software does, it's still software doing it.
 
Like it or not, they aren't a software company.

Your example about Microsoft is a non sense: enterprise solutions are both software and hardware. Microsoft actually is a software and hardware company.

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I would agree if Microsoft has a 20% of market share on mobile.

But in this case that are fighting to survive in this market, and I think it would be better to keep some exclusives to their platform.

And Microsoft thinks differently. this move indicates they believe that financially it makes more sense to spread the software around than remain exclusive.

thats all it is.

one way of doing business isn't automatically or intrisically better than another. if both ways prove to be profitable.

Microsoft, and Google have proven that for their own business models, being the sole front to back, vertically integrated supplier for their own, software hardware and services is NOT their business plan.

just because that is Apples doesn't mean its' the only way to go.

saying that just because Microsoft is a "hardware" company, or a "software company", that they shouldn't try expanding their reach is pure fanboy delusions
 
But in this case that are fighting to survive in this market, and I think it would be better to keep some exclusives to their platform.

Considering how closely Cortana is tied into their other services, it works as a boon for them to release it across multiple platforms.

That's pretty much MS' strategy these days. it doesn't matter if you're using Windows, Mac, iOS, or Android, everyone has direct access to everything they make, and thus have a wider audience to make money from.
 
I think this is great-- hopefully the competition will encourage apple to improve Siri!
 
And Microsoft thinks differently. this move indicates they believe that financially it makes more sense to spread the software around than remain exclusive.

thats all it is.

one way of doing business isn't automatically or intrisically better than another. if both ways prove to be profitable.

Microsoft, and Google have proven that for their own business models, being the sole front to back, vertically integrated supplier for their own, software hardware and services is NOT their business plan.

just because that is Apples doesn't mean its' the only way to go.

saying that just because Microsoft is a "hardware" company, or a "software company", that they shouldn't try expanding their reach is pure fanboy delusions
First time in my life I've been called a Microsoft fanboy :rolleyes:
That can happen only on MR....

Cortana isn't OneDrive or Office.
Cortana is intimately tied to Windows Phone (and now to Windows in general) and it is one of the strong point of that operative system.

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Considering how closely Cortana is tied into their other services, it works as a boon for them to release it across multiple platforms.

That's pretty much MS' strategy these days. it doesn't matter if you're using Windows, Mac, iOS, or Android, everyone has direct access to everything they make, and thus have a wider audience to make money from.

I can see that for some services like OneDrive.
But Cortana is one of the differentiating point for Windows.....
 
I like my iPhone 6 Plus but I have turned Siri off. To me, the Google Search app (which is basically Google Now) is what Cortana needs to top; I think Siri is worthless except for as a gimmick. I will give Cortana a shot and I will give Siri another shot at the next major version of iOS.

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They are not a software company.
Android is a mean.
Every service they are offering is just that: a tool for their real business.
Data mining.

Um, they write a lot of software....making them a software company. They monetize it with advertising and data mining.
 
Surprisingly..

I would be very glad to see this. Though I'm no fan of MS I've found Siri laughably bad. It just has been useless for me and my wife. Not understanding my questions, not getting me the right data, just not doing anything right, ever. Maybe this will get Apple to get off the stick and make Siri into something useful. Or maybe I'll try Cortana.
 
I am no friend of M$, but they are indeed improving. There's no reason for them to call it quit.

There is something to be said when two people with nothing but a lot of apple products in their signature blocks both agree that Microsoft is making a comeback. Windows 8.1 is attractive as a touch-oriented OS and at least usable as a PC OS. The Surface Pro 3, quite honestly, is a product that I wish Apple had made.

Now, I'm not looking to jump back into any MS hardware any time soon, but I already have to work with MS Office because iWork (except for Keynote) just doesn't cut it for my business needs. For some reason, Apple won't give their own productivity suite the features back that it took away from iWork 09. And that's a shame because I really prefer the clean, minimalistic layout of Pages and the beautiful graphs of Numbers. Keynote is the only iWork product that I prefer over its MS Office counter-part: the interface is much friendlier than PowerPoint's. The only drawback: converting to PPT for business partners cripples the transitions.

Honestly, I wish that iWork could offer the same feature package and formatting as MS Office, but with iWork's interface. The Sidebar is far preferable to the Ribbon in term of screen space management on a 13" notebook.

Siri too doesn't seem to be getting enough love. Neither does iCloud. I can sync a Word document through Dropbox faster almost every time than I can a Pages document through iCloud. And don't get me started on Handoff.

Apple can do better (as evidenced by the competition) and I wish they would step up.
 
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I can see that for some services like OneDrive.
But Cortana is one of the differentiating point for Windows.....

Yeah, it is. But it does funnel people through Bing, and does use Onedrive for some of its features. So now matter where you're at, you're using some of MS' big moneymakers. Plus, having the feature elsewhere might serve as a draw to it's official platform, where it'll be better integrated and better performing.

It could work as a cross platform halo effect.

And even if you don't end up jumping ship for MS' hardware, it's still a nice thing to have around if you need it.
 
Like it or not, they aren't a software company.

Like it or not - you aren't the arbiter. You can say YOU don't consider them a software company. However, there are many that would disagree with you.

For that matte r- you ca say that like it or not, you believe the moon is made of green cheese. You are entitled to believe it. That doesn't make it fact.
 

Because Siri's Development basically stopped with Forstall's Departure. Regardless of if you like him or not, he is a "Forbidden Fruit" with Apple ( in a very big way.) Not many singularities say "Scott Forstall" more than Siri. iOS is no longer any resemblance to his original influence. TBO, I'm surprised Siri is still part of iOS. :apple:
 
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