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Microsoft's Office Team Steps Onto iOS With 'OneNote'
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Not only were they paid for, but some of us with iPod Touches paid twice. Not all firmware upgrades are free.
I don't know why everyone has such a problem with the dock connector. Apple has managed to keep it elegant in all of it's devices, but it's still 10 year old technology. BUT, by keeping it on there, Apple has retained it's commitment to products that iPod owners may already have, I have a 7 year old iPod speaker dock, I use it for my iPhone. I wouldn't be heartbroken if it didn't work that way, but it is a nice touch.
My grandpa always said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". All of the arguments here have been how mini-usb can do everything the dock connector can do, but nobody has shown anything that mini-usb can do that the dock connector can NOT do. There are advantages yes, size isn't one of them because the dock connector still fits, beyond that is the plethora of cables that most people have for various mini-usb devices, but lets be honest, many MANY iPhone owners have a stack of those dock connector USB cables from all of their iPods, I myself have 4 extras in a drawer, plus one for my iPhone, and one for my iPad. They can be had online for under $5. There are TONS of folks who have neither USB dock cables NOR mini USB cables, so either way they are buying cables.
I really don't see a need to change the iPhone to use mini-USB, yes it's big but, it's just as fast and capable as mini USB.
-John
My grandpa always said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". All of the arguments here have been how mini-usb can do everything the dock connector can do, but nobody has shown anything that mini-usb can do that the dock connector can NOT do. There are advantages yes, size isn't one of them because the dock connector still fits, beyond that is the plethora of cables that most people have for various mini-usb devices, but lets be honest, many MANY iPhone owners have a stack of those dock connector USB cables from all of their iPods, I myself have 4 extras in a drawer, plus one for my iPhone, and one for my iPad. They can be had online for under $5. There are TONS of folks who have neither USB dock cables NOR mini USB cables, so either way they are buying cables.
I really don't see a need to change the iPhone to use mini-USB, yes it's big but, it's just as fast and capable as mini USB.
-John
Like iMove or what?
Kind of a strange comment, but I think your talking about iLife ,....Maybe???
And if so,...If that happens ,...Why then would you use OneNote???
Who cares if they make a dime or a dollar?Right. And Microsoft won't make a dime when you sign up for a Live account to use this app.
I, for one, am glad to see Redmond allowing their Office franchise to compete on it's own merits, away from the Windows franchise.
I have to say I'm shocked that this would happen under Ballmer's watch, but in a positive way. It means they are making rational decisions at the executive level (and probably implies someone other than Ballmer is making them). As a point of reference, this would never have been allowed under the Gates regime.
2 things:
1. Canadian iOS App Store please
2. For Mac App Store please
Thanks Microsoft, there are just a few things you guys do great in. This is one of them.
1. Canadian iOS App Store please
2. For Mac App Store please
Thanks Microsoft, there are just a few things you guys do great in. This is one of them.
WTF - US Only?
Give us a break MS! And I bet by the time it's available in the UK store it won't be free any more.
Don't worry. Just go to the US app store, click on the FREE button to download OneNote, then Create an account when it prompts you to enter your credentials. By this way you can create a US app store account without a credit card.
Why the heck not? It was Bill Gates who released Microsoft Word on the Macintosh BEFORE Windows, and it was under the Gates regime that a decision was made to continue to produce software on the Mac, Office was on the Mac way before Ballmer, I can almost guarantee it's only free to get it to the top of the charts, and then they will charge for it, it's cash flow like anything else. Why not put it on every platform possible?
-John
OneNote vs EverNote
For those comparing OneNote to EverNote, have you ever actually used OneNote? For years I have asked about a OneNote alternative on the Mac and EverNote is always parroted as the best replacement for it out there. I am sorry, but these two applications are similar in one way only, they both have "Note" in the name and can be used for note taking.
EverNote and OneNote are entirely different applications usable in totally different scenarios. In short: EverNote is a traditional linear note taking application with the capability to link between notes and data sources. OneNote is a non-linear note taking application with the ability to link freely between notes and data sources of any type. Furthermore, one of the most powerful things about OneNote that is not present in EverNote to nearly the same degree is that OneNote is a collaboration tool. Throughout law school, I got by in my classes by grouping up with four or five others who would simultaneously work on a note sheet for classes.
In the end, both applications have their own nitch, but those nitches are far from the same.
I look forward to my OneNote overlords coming to MacOS and iOS. It has been far too long.
Oh, and anyone that dares suggest that CircusPonies is a replacement for either EverNote or OneNote ... deserves a horrible afterlife.
... -M
Yes, I finally made an account because of this topic.
For those comparing OneNote to EverNote, have you ever actually used OneNote? For years I have asked about a OneNote alternative on the Mac and EverNote is always parroted as the best replacement for it out there. I am sorry, but these two applications are similar in one way only, they both have "Note" in the name and can be used for note taking.
EverNote and OneNote are entirely different applications usable in totally different scenarios. In short: EverNote is a traditional linear note taking application with the capability to link between notes and data sources. OneNote is a non-linear note taking application with the ability to link freely between notes and data sources of any type. Furthermore, one of the most powerful things about OneNote that is not present in EverNote to nearly the same degree is that OneNote is a collaboration tool. Throughout law school, I got by in my classes by grouping up with four or five others who would simultaneously work on a note sheet for classes.
In the end, both applications have their own nitch, but those nitches are far from the same.
I look forward to my OneNote overlords coming to MacOS and iOS. It has been far too long.
Oh, and anyone that dares suggest that CircusPonies is a replacement for either EverNote or OneNote ... deserves a horrible afterlife.
... -M
Yes, I finally made an account because of this topic.
You know both men personally, do you?
(Newsflash: Microsoft had a monopoly on "big prick" for much of the past two decades. Go ahead - look it up.)
Well done Microsoft and Office team.
The fact is many of us also use Microsoft products every day at work and at home and it hasn't felt right without a decent presence from you on the iOS platform.
By actively being part of iOS, with all the unknowns it might have for MS, demonstrates that Microsoft is still keeping it real when it comes to openness and giving customers options.
(ps make sure you put it on all the App stores, not just the US one, so we can spread the word to our friends)
We also know that you're 'betting the company' on all kinds of cloud ideas as well and can't wait to see what you come up with next.
The fact is many of us also use Microsoft products every day at work and at home and it hasn't felt right without a decent presence from you on the iOS platform.
By actively being part of iOS, with all the unknowns it might have for MS, demonstrates that Microsoft is still keeping it real when it comes to openness and giving customers options.
(ps make sure you put it on all the App stores, not just the US one, so we can spread the word to our friends)
We also know that you're 'betting the company' on all kinds of cloud ideas as well and can't wait to see what you come up with next.
Yeah, I can imagine millions of people writing long reports in Word on the iPad and updating thousands of figures in Excel sheets...
Not really. But I think that official Word, Excel and PowerPoint VIEWERS would do well on the iPad. Everything beyond that would be pretending that the iPad could actually replace a notebook - and so far everybody who has ever tried that knows that it's a complete failure.
For those comparing OneNote to EverNote, have you ever actually used OneNote? For years I have asked about a OneNote alternative on the Mac and EverNote is always parroted as the best replacement for it out there. I am sorry, but these two applications are similar in one way only, they both have "Note" in the name and can be used for note taking.
EverNote and OneNote are entirely different applications usable in totally different scenarios. In short: EverNote is a traditional linear note taking application with the capability to link between notes and data sources. OneNote is a non-linear note taking application with the ability to link freely between notes and data sources of any type. Furthermore, one of the most powerful things about OneNote that is not present in EverNote to nearly the same degree is that OneNote is a collaboration tool. Throughout law school, I got by in my classes by grouping up with four or five others who would simultaneously work on a note sheet for classes.
In the end, both applications have their own nitch, but those nitches are far from the same....
Agree entirely - for very basic use then EverNote is probably comparable with OneNote, but get to know and use OneNote properly and you'll realise there's nothing out there to touch it, at least not that I've found yet.
You know the EU has passed a rule saying all mobiles have to have the same charger right? Apple has been a signatory to the agreement so they need to get a USB connection or similar on there to meet the rule.
But remember it's not just about creating and/or reading, it's also about editing existing documents. Whilst I agree with what you say about it being impractical to write a report or create a spreadsheet on an iOS device, there's no reason why I couldn't staff a Word document or update a spreadsheet.
So annoying to read stories like this, then head off to the App Store and discover app availability is limited to the US. Note to author - please give us all the facts. There is intelligent life outside of the Continental US
Indeed... I can confirm its *not* showing in the UK App Store :-(
It's free so, can't complain. But MS is really slow to upgrade their apps. Windows Live Messenger, which I use on a daily basis to talk to friends in europe (who knew that MSN/Windows Live is still like AOL in the 90's over there.) Everyone uses it. Anyyway, it's a beautiful app, and buggy as can be. Notifications don't work which really defeats the purpose of a messaging app. My point is, it's been that way since September, and there has been 0 upgrades. Don't know if it`s just a way to stick it to Apple customers or laziness or what. Just sayin...
Use it daily under Windows 7. Ever since we got it at work those who have tried it never stop using it. Great way to collect "stuff" and keep it sorted. Like project notes from people on different platforms working together, files, and spreadsheets... amazing product.
I was so annoyed when the new Office for Mac didn't have it, was almost goint to not buy the upgrade because of that omission
Evernote is getting there. They recently added a collaborative sharing feature to the Mac desktop version.
Law school eh?
You know that the "or similar" clause allows them to simply supply a dongle to go from the de facto standard 30-pin connector to a micro-USB connector, right? They are standardizing chargers, but not necessarily connectors. (Source)
