I stand corrected then. Every review I've seen so far has shown 300MB/s write with 1.5GB/s read.
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I'd rather have OS X than Windows on my notebook. It just is such a great operating system. Things like a touch screen and a pen input or a detachable screen aren't enough to make me switch from OS X.
Also with owning an iPhone like I think most people probably do in the "first world" a Mac really works well with that device. I'd be giving up iMessage, Taking calls through my Mac etc. That's a lot to give up really. Also Time Machine, such a great piece of software that looks stunning and works so well. Still nothing like that for Windows from what I've seen (and I have looked).
I use Windows on my Desktop but if I wasn't playing games on that I'd probably go Mac there too. I would definitely never buy a Windows powered notebook. Now if Apple wants to license OS X to other companies that would sway me but the chances of that happening are zero.
I will say this though, the Surface Book is innovative. Microsoft should be proud that they made such a forward thinking notebook and I think it's about time they got into making great hardware for their platform, having other companies produce the hardware with them offering no alternatives until very recently was allowing other companies to dictate where their sailboat went and that's not good for any company that is trying to be different. No one will care about your baby as much as you do.
Also with owning an iPhone like I think most people probably do in the "first world" a Mac really works well with that device. I'd be giving up iMessage, Taking calls through my Mac etc. That's a lot to give up really. Also Time Machine, such a great piece of software that looks stunning and works so well. Still nothing like that for Windows from what I've seen (and I have looked).
I use Windows on my Desktop but if I wasn't playing games on that I'd probably go Mac there too. I would definitely never buy a Windows powered notebook. Now if Apple wants to license OS X to other companies that would sway me but the chances of that happening are zero.
I will say this though, the Surface Book is innovative. Microsoft should be proud that they made such a forward thinking notebook and I think it's about time they got into making great hardware for their platform, having other companies produce the hardware with them offering no alternatives until very recently was allowing other companies to dictate where their sailboat went and that's not good for any company that is trying to be different. No one will care about your baby as much as you do.
When will MS learn that they should just make a good laptop and a good tablet and then maybe after that they can surf into the midway point with a convertible laptop/tablet?
I'm sorry but i'm amongst the many people who don't want to skimp on the basics just to have a mechanical detachable hinge, loads of heavy batteries in the screen, touch and pen inputs that really are gimmicks on a laptop and all the awkwardness that goes with compromising. THEN THERE IS THE PRICE, oh god the price of the damned thing.
I really do love MS but i can't help but feel sorry for the stance they've taken, it's a whole they can't back out of now and i wish they had just explored it rather than so smugly bash every other method of making a computer.
They F'd up with win8 then windows mobile imploded then tablets running arm basically imploded now they're back with win10 and it's like they just lost 6 years to everyone else and they still haven't found a way to make the basics work any better than win vista and i hated that too!
For me MS need to get in bed with android, mix in windows 10 and android, pull in all things like contacts, messaging, video calls, webpages etc so when you have an android phone your windows machine just works with it. Exactly like a mac does with iPhones. I'm sure they could pull it off and make it seamless. Knowing MS they won't see that and it'll be the half assed non show it is now forever.
I'm sorry but i'm amongst the many people who don't want to skimp on the basics just to have a mechanical detachable hinge, loads of heavy batteries in the screen, touch and pen inputs that really are gimmicks on a laptop and all the awkwardness that goes with compromising. THEN THERE IS THE PRICE, oh god the price of the damned thing.
I really do love MS but i can't help but feel sorry for the stance they've taken, it's a whole they can't back out of now and i wish they had just explored it rather than so smugly bash every other method of making a computer.
They F'd up with win8 then windows mobile imploded then tablets running arm basically imploded now they're back with win10 and it's like they just lost 6 years to everyone else and they still haven't found a way to make the basics work any better than win vista and i hated that too!
For me MS need to get in bed with android, mix in windows 10 and android, pull in all things like contacts, messaging, video calls, webpages etc so when you have an android phone your windows machine just works with it. Exactly like a mac does with iPhones. I'm sure they could pull it off and make it seamless. Knowing MS they won't see that and it'll be the half assed non show it is now forever.
I hope MS keeps pushing Apple, otherwise Apple will just get lazy.
"Things an (insert apple product) can't do" - literal translation meaning they (microsoft) are charging an undeserved premium. If this wasn't the case then the selling point would be the price.
I have been a very long-time buyer and user of Apple products... and still have most of them over many years of use. When Apple was late bringing out a bigger iPhone, I bought Samsung's, only to come back when Apple finally delivered a bigger phone. I then wanted a touchscreen laptop and tablet combo and again Apple did not have anything close to the Surface Book. After a lot of in-store tryouts, I bought one and I love it. Apple needs to be quicker to the market. I use all facets of the SB and hope Apple shows me what they can do along these lines some day.
No, you're partly right. The Anandtech review did highlight an issue with the Samsung SSD and slower write speeds in some cases but it seems to have been addressed (by Microsoft and you could also download an updated driver from Samsung which helped). I've run some tests on my SSD and I get good write speeds but you may have seen some of the early benchmarks. As I said earlier, the machine is great now but on launch there were some wrinkles...
You can't do that on a your Mac, but why would you want to? a better question
That's why we have the iPad Pro and (rumored) smaller tablet..
I can never imagine a desktop/laptop actually good for having to hold your wrist up till u to draw to the screen till u shed tears from the pain...in one hand.
Microsoft is overstepping the simple concept of drawing. I'd go back to Windows if i could, but Mac apps are preventing me.... I spent too much on them
That's why we have the iPad Pro and (rumored) smaller tablet..
I can never imagine a desktop/laptop actually good for having to hold your wrist up till u to draw to the screen till u shed tears from the pain...in one hand.
Microsoft is overstepping the simple concept of drawing. I'd go back to Windows if i could, but Mac apps are preventing me.... I spent too much on them
It was just a snarky post. Having fun @ Apple's expense since they are a bit laggard in pushing out updates with the latest chips and graphics and such it seems like the red headed step child. But also aimed as MS because, honestly, reviving Mac vs PC is rather lame.
That's why you flip the screen around, and fold it down when you want to draw.
Are you sure having 100 Billion in the bank is considered sinking fast into insignificance?
Going back to a MacBook Pro feels archaic. Always reaching for the screen but it doesn't do anything, force touch gimmick is one of the first things I turn off in favor of effortless tap but it's missing double-tap to drag, etc. It's like the feeling going from a car to a golf cart.
On the other hand, Microsoft is not faultless. They need to offer a larger Surface Pro like in the 13 to 14" range, offer 8GB DRAM as base with fanless Core M and offer SAMOLED screen option to be free of backlight bleed.
On the other hand, Microsoft is not faultless. They need to offer a larger Surface Pro like in the 13 to 14" range, offer 8GB DRAM as base with fanless Core M and offer SAMOLED screen option to be free of backlight bleed.
Lol...nah, Apple will just brick your iPhone when you don't have them personally repair a part
Not really. You would still need your fingers for things that need more than two points of contact on the screen, like pinch to zoom.
Sadly… I feel the same… I LOVE the detachable and flippable screen/tablet. And this will only become better next year for the Surface Book 2. Microsoft is coming back and doing it right… copying Apple… but innovating more, in my opinion. Apple user since 1995. 7 iPhones. 4 iPads. 4 iPods. 3 Apple TVs. etc…
Agreed. My brothers Vista computer died awhile ago so he bought a new computer with Win8.1 and it wouldn't play his camera videos. I had to go over and help him figure out that he had to download some updates and set up a different default media player. Out of the box. To play videos. Ridiculous.
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Following the launch of a few ads focused around the advantages of Windows 10 PCs over Macs, this week Microsoft continued its campaign with new commercials showcasing the Microsoft Surface Book. The ads feature wildlife photographer Tim Flach describing the pros of the Surface Book, pointing out a few things that he "just can't do" on a Mac.
The first video showcases Flach's "initial impressions of the Surface Book," with the photographer commenting on the detail provided by the two-in-one laptop/tablet device. Flach also detaches the top half of the Surface Book to directly edit and manipulate his photographs. He ends the video stating, "I can't do that on my Mac."
The second ad delves deeper into the powers of the Surface Pen and its 1,024 levels of pressure sensitivity, with Flach comparing the experience he had with Microsoft's device to his time as a painter. Despite the touch-screen similarities the Surface Book shares with the iPad Pro, Microsoft keeps the comparison specifically to Apple's Mac line in each video.
As pointed out by a reader of The Loop, the score for Microsoft's new ads skews close to a Retina MacBook Pro commercial from 2012. Both videos use variants of "Song" by Kidstreet, with Apple's ad playing the "String Version" of the tune and Microsoft's playing the "Reimagined" version.
A third video posted to the company's YouTube channel echoes much of the sentiment of the first two. Microsoft sells the Surface Book starting at $1,499 and goes up all the way to $3,199 thanks to a boosted 1TB flash storage and Intel Core i7 processor. The company first introduced the Surface Book at an event last October, referring to the versatile computing device as "the fastest laptop ever made, anywhere, on any planet."
They don't let you do these things for your own good. Follow blindly people. Apple knows best.
My take on that is that everything Surface did on that CM, can be done on iPad (not even Pro).
If you need higher sensitivity levels, Pro is a better choice. So graphic artists would really buy Pro or maybe specialized tablets. Who needs then Windows with touch? Surface has been out for number of years, and it didn't catch large portion of market - thats the evidence that Surface is going nowhere, especially with Windows as OS. Trying to use ageing and almost unfixable old desktop system with touch skin is not very popular as witnessed by market.The inefficient OS makes total battery time fall from advertised 9 hours to 3 hours (http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Surface-Pro-4/productID.325711500)
In (whole year) 2015 Surface sold in total 6 million units. http://pocketnow.com/2016/02/03/microsoft-surface-sales-numbers-q4-2015-whole-year. In 2015 MS reported slowing Surface sales and falling revenue as well. http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/22/9599674/microsoft-q1-2016-earnings
According to Statista, total sales of iPad in only 1st quarter of 2016 were 16.2 million units or 2.5 times higher than for whole year of Surface sales.
Moreover, for total of 2015 Apple sold 52.8 million units of iPads (Q1-Q4, 2015).
In 1st quarter of 2016, sales of iPads increased from Q4 2015' 9.8 million to 16.2 million.
Yes, iPad sales are gradually down, because of higher competition (including Surface). But in terms of total market sales, yearly Surface even isn't comparable to quarterly sales of iPad, especially after introduction of Pro and growth on quarter to quarter basis of 65% for iPads in 1Q of 2016.
With the touch skin, Windows seems to reach the final point where it could be modified further. Forking the surface line also is the evidence that MS is out of ideas. It had to toss away its ARM units and OS, instead leaving only Windows, but it also doesn't help much as global PC market is sinking.
Surface is nothing revolutionary. Touch based Windows notebooks were floating around since 2000 and they didn't make a good impression. Surface is just a same thing, maybe rebranded but it is still a Windows notebook.
If you need higher sensitivity levels, Pro is a better choice. So graphic artists would really buy Pro or maybe specialized tablets. Who needs then Windows with touch? Surface has been out for number of years, and it didn't catch large portion of market - thats the evidence that Surface is going nowhere, especially with Windows as OS. Trying to use ageing and almost unfixable old desktop system with touch skin is not very popular as witnessed by market.The inefficient OS makes total battery time fall from advertised 9 hours to 3 hours (http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Surface-Pro-4/productID.325711500)
In (whole year) 2015 Surface sold in total 6 million units. http://pocketnow.com/2016/02/03/microsoft-surface-sales-numbers-q4-2015-whole-year. In 2015 MS reported slowing Surface sales and falling revenue as well. http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/22/9599674/microsoft-q1-2016-earnings
According to Statista, total sales of iPad in only 1st quarter of 2016 were 16.2 million units or 2.5 times higher than for whole year of Surface sales.
Moreover, for total of 2015 Apple sold 52.8 million units of iPads (Q1-Q4, 2015).
In 1st quarter of 2016, sales of iPads increased from Q4 2015' 9.8 million to 16.2 million.
Yes, iPad sales are gradually down, because of higher competition (including Surface). But in terms of total market sales, yearly Surface even isn't comparable to quarterly sales of iPad, especially after introduction of Pro and growth on quarter to quarter basis of 65% for iPads in 1Q of 2016.
With the touch skin, Windows seems to reach the final point where it could be modified further. Forking the surface line also is the evidence that MS is out of ideas. It had to toss away its ARM units and OS, instead leaving only Windows, but it also doesn't help much as global PC market is sinking.
Surface is nothing revolutionary. Touch based Windows notebooks were floating around since 2000 and they didn't make a good impression. Surface is just a same thing, maybe rebranded but it is still a Windows notebook.
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It still runs Windows. Today I upgraded a Windows 8.1 Surface Pro 2 to Windows 10. Immediately upon using both versions (I was testing something in Explorer/Edge), I found my self sighs aloud and breathing heavy as my frustration grew. Now I was a Windows and .NET developer for about 10 years, so I have used Windows and administered Windows too. I realized when I switched to Mac that my stress and anxiety came down considerably. It's nice to know that Microsoft hasn't lost that "magic" to make me want to get an EKG.
Well, my friend, think it over carefully. I have a friend who bought one and later got an iPad Pro instead.
And he's using it more now, according to his reply: