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Whilst I don’t like Windows that a load of subjective crap. Maybe YOUR company aren't administering the hardware well, I know lots of IT professionals that prefer PCs?
Plus you literally have to…………
Don’t dance around it, either you do have to or you don’t.
Semantics aside, we do over a million in revenue annually, and we are a young company that started with little capital and zero credit. What do you do that qualifies you to make this thinly veiled indictment of the quality of my work besides post anecdotes about IT professionals preferring PCs? I prefer PCs too, they make me money. And of course IT professionals prefer PCs; they'd be unemployed without them!
 
Seriously??? Trying to compare someone putting their hand in a different spot and causing reception to change with a piece of complex integrated software not working correctly on one person's computer is quite a stretch. Software configuration can get screwed up... if you don't understand that then I'm not sure what to tell you. There are plenty of cases where Apple's stuff also gets screwed up. OneDrive works great for millions of people, but not for you. You are welcome to believe its because you are holding it wrong.
What? The OneDrive Mac client is clearly buggy, yet you are blaming my configuration, despite other clients like Dropbox and Google Drive are not having issues at all.
Again, mentality of blaming the users. You should work for MS support, you will be repeating your elitist comment many times.
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Taking your Apple hat off you have to say that Microsoft et al are really leading the way in innovation nowadays, both from a software and hardware point of view.

I really believe that in ten years time we won't see Apple in the same light as we have for the previous ten. And they will have no one to blame but themselves. It's a cliche to bring up Steve Jobs but I believe he wouldn't have liked the Apple we have today in 2017.
Both companies are innovating, albeit at different paths. Innovations are not marked by today's shipping products.
What do you think Microsoft is innovating at? The Surface products? Not at all. Those are as innovative as Google making a Nexus phone, ie. reference hardware for the OEMs to copy. Surface laptop? Putting fabric on old inventory components is not innovation. MS is innovating in holographic UI and AR, where you don't see the actual products just yet (yeah there's hololens, but it's a prototype product if one has tried one). MS is not a hardware company primarily, so they are betting on the next gen software/UI, be it holographic or cloud (Azure). The Surface is just shiny stuff to keep the OEMs and fans interested in the current cash cow, Windows and Office.

As for Apple, their Macbooks are not innovation. Apple's is betting on mobile, and they have been investing time in making their set of chips focused on mobile, from the A series SoCs (arguably the most efficient and fastest SoC on the planet, still), the S series, W series, and so on. This is what Apple is betting on, so in the future, they have a set of highly optimized hardware at their disposal, while the competitors are bottlenecked by off-the-shelves components. And Apple is not alone in this bet. Samsung and even Xiaomi are doing the same thing, designing their own chips.

Innovations don't happen overnight. But of course you as consumers only see innovations what you can buy today. Lucky for you, there are plenty of Chinese and Taiwanese OEMs that are willing to just sell you the cheapest laptop they can make that day.
 
I just tried making the switch to a sp4 and am returning it. The battery life is horrendous, but If they fix this and get the features you mention plus a decent apple photo competitor id switch in a heartbeat...which is why it will never happen.

That being said the Surface Book is very nice and the Surface Studio really shows that Microsoft is putting some effort to take care of its customers when compared to Apple that keeps promising that 'something good is just around the corner' and 'we haven't forgotten the Mac platform' yet here we are months later and nothing has been done apart from a pointless gimmick being added to the MacBook Pro not to mention long standing issues with the underpinnings of macOS (such as grappy graphics performance because of a poorly optimised OpenGL stack along with poorly optimised drivers) not being address. Want to know what I'd like to see? a complete ban by all management at Apple from taking about iPad's for a whole year.
 
Xamarin is huge news. Not having to develop iOS apps on a Mac?? Maybe that's why we got the Mac Pro news from Apple. They might realize their stronghold on iOS development is coming to an end (unless they actually do something on the Mac side of things).

Xamarin Live is HUGE. Still need a Mac to actually build/deploy iOS apps to the store though. :(
If only Apple would break open XCode and allow everything to be done from Visual Studio.
 
iTunes coming to the Windows Store too! WTH, has hell frozen over????

This sounds like Apple is prepping to drop Macs entirely and just let Windows computers take over so they can focus on iPhones instead.
 
This sounds like Apple is prepping to drop Macs entirely and just let Windows computers take over
It really really doesn't. That's not what it meant last time and isn't what it means this time around.

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What? The OneDrive Mac client is clearly buggy, yet you are blaming my configuration, despite other clients like Dropbox and Google Drive are not having issues at all.
Again, mentality of blaming the users. You should work for MS support, you will be repeating your elitist comment many times.
I'm elitist? And I didn't blame anyone. This thread is talking about Windows 10 PCs and their handling of devices running iOS and Android. I didn't know we were now talked my about Macs. Most of what I've said is referring to Windows. I do run OneDrive on my Mac and have had no issues, but I rarely use it. There are many reasons why complex integrated software may have a problem. For some reason my suggesting that you might want to look into why it isn't working is elitist and blaming the user. Instead you've just determined that the product stinks for everyone. I can tell you this. You want to see something that has problems, install Apples iCloud client on Windows. That is the reciprocal of OneDrive on a Mac, and it is a mess.

Both companies are innovating, albeit at different paths. Innovations are not marked by today's shipping products.
What do you think Microsoft is innovating at? The Surface products? Not at all. Those are as innovative as Google making a Nexus phone, ie. reference hardware for the OEMs to copy. Surface laptop? Putting fabric on old inventory components is not innovation. MS is innovating in holographic UI and AR, where you don't see the actual products just yet (yeah there's hololens, but it's a prototype product if one has tried one). MS is not a hardware company primarily, so they are betting on the next gen software/UI, be it holographic or cloud (Azure). The Surface is just shiny stuff to keep the OEMs and fans interested in the current cash cow, Windows and Office.

As for Apple, their Macbooks are not innovation. Apple's is betting on mobile, and they have been investing time in making their set of chips focused on mobile, from the A series SoCs (arguably the most efficient and fastest SoC on the planet, still), the S series, W series, and so on. This is what Apple is betting on, so in the future, they have a set of highly optimized hardware at their disposal, while the competitors are bottlenecked by off-the-shelves components. And Apple is not alone in this bet. Samsung and even Xiaomi are doing the same thing, designing their own chips.

Innovations don't happen overnight. But of course you as consumers only see innovations what you can buy today. Lucky for you, there are plenty of Chinese and Taiwanese OEMs that are willing to just sell you the cheapest laptop they can make that day.

I agree with you on one thing. Apple is pretty much an iPhone company now. That is where their energy is going. E writhing else seems to have been demoted to hobby status. For sure the Mac is there.

Apple has always been a "we know what you need and will tell you" company. When Jobs was doing the telling, it was a wonderful thing. As his influence gets more distant, they have no one that can fill that role... certainly not Tim. Case in point the touch bar on the new MBP.

Microsoft is a software company and that is what this thread is about. Their hardware is really reference platforms (as you said) but they make nice stuff. I love the Surface Pro 4 and Surface Studio. I hope they keep making hardware but who knows.

They have created a hybrid model that is pretty good by embracing touch. Apple refuses to do so and wants you to buy two devices. To me, Microsoft is listening to users better than Apple right now. Without Jobs, Apple needs to do the same.
 
Semantics aside, we do over a million in revenue annually, and we are a young company that started with little capital and zero credit. What do you do that qualifies you to make this thinly veiled indictment of the quality of my work besides post anecdotes about IT professionals preferring PCs? I prefer PCs too, they make me money. And of course IT professionals prefer PCs; they'd be unemployed without them!
I’ve actually recently left a $25B US concern. I grew up with the guy who was responsible for global IT there. He preferred Windows much as I tried to tell him why he should like OSX instead. I didn't make anything thinly veiled either, told you flat out that it might be you actually. He preferred Windows and this was aside the fact that he used it to make the company money.

We are all different. Your statement was a wild generalisation.
 
You'd have to be mad to leave OS X for Windows 10. There are so many minor frustrations that you have to deal with and unexpected errors and just general bullsh*t.

I have an IT services company that supports Macs and PCs and mobile devices (plus servers, networking equipment, etc.). If everyone was on a Mac we'd lose probably 80% of our billable hours for desktop support. PCs just break that much.

Plus you have to literally edit the hosts file to prevent Microsoft from logging your every move and keep an eye on the hosts file after every update to make sure they didn't reenable what is, by definition, built-in spyware. This is not hyperbole.

Are you able to point to a optimal settings site that would allow those without an IT department to optimize Windows 10 so that it is the least-breakable and the least leaky (security-wise) than the standard WinPro 10 install? Is it even possible to air-gap an HP or Boxx workstation for Avid after the initial install and setup?
 
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