LOL...nice try. Remote desktop apps only provide access to what the user already has installed. They don't provide you with a library of apps to use for a fee. So the remote app itself is the only app that company is actually providing. Everything else is provided by the user. That's the reason why Apple already allows game streaming apps that simply let you stream games you already have on your console or PC etc.
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Microsoft's xCloud and Xbox Game Pass Not Coming to iOS Due to Apple's Restrictions [Updated]
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LOL...nice try. Remote desktop apps only provide access to what the user already has installed. They don't provide you with a library of apps to use for a fee. So the remote app itself is the only app that company is actually providing. Everything else is provided by the user. That's the reason why Apple already allows game streaming apps that simply let you stream games you already have on your console or PC etc.
This is exactly the anti competitive behavior that they’re being investigated for. Apple wants total control and no competition. It’s a monopoly and the consumer hurts.
Microsoft has put together a great product and now we can’t access it because of some corrupt policies Apple has put in place simply to protect their margins.
Microsoft has put together a great product and now we can’t access it because of some corrupt policies Apple has put in place simply to protect their margins.
Except, if I understand the way XCloud works, there is absolutely no extra code running on the end user device. The cloud server is serving up video steam only and receiving input commands from the local application. All game code is in the cloud.
If I am wrong about additional code being download, tell me. But that is not my understanding.
Please stop. Just stop. What are you talking about not a level playing field. You mean because it’s better than Apple Arcade? That’s because it is better than Apple Arcade. What gamer is like “wow! I can’t wait to hop onto Apple Arcade over xcloud”
how about xcloud pushes other devs to do better? Just because Apple can’t come up to par means they need to cry and deny the app?
by your logic, Netflix, Amazon video, hbo max; all the streaming services should not exists. Because we should really give tv+ a shot right?
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Word? Every single user here is unhappy?
Are you familiar with auto racing? Formula One? NASCAR? Level playing field in those competitive sports = same rules apply to everyone. So with the App Store, one of the rules is that the app you're selling needs to be reviewed by the App Store. If you're trying to selling something without it being reviewed, that's not a level playing field.
A remote desktop app isn't selling anything other than access to a computer desktop. All the apps that are on the desktop are not included. A game streaming app that provides access to games that you already purchased on your console or PC is the same thing. Those kinds of streaming apps are already available on the App Store.
MS isn't just providing a game streaming app, they're also providing a game library within the app and none of those games have been reviewed. That's not a level playing field.
Now this might actually push me to andriod...sad
Is that how it works? I kinda assumed it would be more like Apple Arcade though the more I think about it, the more I find your interpretation makes more sense. I guess in this case, it wouldn’t be unlike me remoting to my desktop and launching a game to play.
Which in turn makes it similar to Netflix, in that it’s just media content at the end of the day.
Hmm...I stand corrected then.
It’s not a Remote Desktop app. It’s a steaming service. Why are you comparing nascar to apples ridiculous App Store policies.
You realize that right? It’s ridiculous. This is ridiculous. This is ridiculous that you’re trying to even justify this bs.
Not surprising, but absolutely disappointing.
If I stream for my computer using Microsoft Remote Access, I also have access to my full desktop Microsoft Office that Microsoft hasn't reviewed. Please explain the different vs accessing my Xbox Library with DOOM Eternal and Red Dead Redemption for it....
Apple Arcade is not even on the same category as console quality games, will never be Apple. Stop blocking competitors in this space because you are not even competing!
Until this is fixed I won't renew my iOS devices and if the time comes I need to purchase they continue like this then yeah, my money will go elsewhere. I like the devices, but hate Apple as a company.
Yeah nowhere in the statement below does Apple mention anything about code. It’s all about the App Store. Which is kind of a bogus argument because there’s things you can do in the browser that you couldn’t do via the App Store. The App Store doesn’t allow porn but nothing in Safari prevents you from going to websites that serve it up. Heck even in this statement Apple says developers can choose to reach users via the browser.Is that how it works? I kinda assumed it would be more like Apple Arcade though the more I think about it, the more I find your interpretation makes more sense. I guess in this case, it wouldn’t be unlike me remoting to my desktop and launching a game to play.
Which in turn makes it similar to Netflix, in that it’s just media content at the end of the day.
Hmm...I stand corrected then.
Apple needs to let go of their policies that are anchoring them to the past decade. This kind of strong arming is only going to make them look insane in a few years time. You cannot bully these services. The market clearly wants them and Apple clearly wants to try and make their play first, it’s just insane.
Well, yeah, I realize you can buy individual games from the App Store. That is vastly different than a service that allows you to stream/play any game you want for a monthly fee.
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Basically, you're streaming an Xbox on a remote server farm that has a set number of games offered in Game Pass. It's like Netflix, Xbox adds and removes games that you can play each month for a monthly cost of $14.99. The only thing that's downloaded is the video stream and the only thing that's uploaded is your controller commands. You need a fast connection with low latency if you wanna play multiplayer with little lag otherwise the experience can suck. I've tried it on the latest Fire Tablet, it's best to play single player games. I think that's another reason for Apple to not approve is not everyone will get a good experience with xCloud.
They're definitely sticking to their guns. Apple is stubborn and they will keep this policy as long as possible till the government intervenes. That's why they are worth 2 Trillion.
Frankly I hope Apple gets forced to at least open up the App Store by allowing a setting to get rid of the nannying to those of us who want life outside of Apple Arcade and its BS "Life is Like Disneyland" approach.
If none of the content is actually executing on the device I do not get your point. Apple is choosing to avoid the model that I believe will be the future of gaming and hurting their customers in the process.
As someone who has an iphone, this is annoying, but I don’t expect it to be an issue for long. As game streaming services become more relevant and popular, apple will HAVE to lift this restrictions or risk losing a LOT of customers. Google Stadia honestly didn’t make that big of a splash in the ocean (mainly because it still feels like a half baked idea. I mean how are you going to introduce a completely cloud based game streaming platform and NOT have a library of games?! How does that even make sense? So I’d have to pay 10 dollars a month for random free games (like gold), good streaming capabilities, and then on top of that pay full price for games I can’t download and am at the mercy of my internet speed to play? No thanks). But Xcloud is going to be a lot more dangerous. Way back when, Microsoft promised in its final form that it would be completely free and let users to play any game they already own on their mobile devices using their console to stream. Right now, they’re advertising it as a free addition to an already amazing service (Gamepass ultimate), and are promising a library of hundreds of games to stream. That’s REALLY appealing to all gamers (especially those who have GPU).
Despite what some people are saying: No, game streaming will NEVER be the future of gaming. They will NEVER replace downloading games on a console or pc. Games will only get more demanding, and internet infrastructure in the U.S still sucks. Ever had a video buffer? Games are way more demanding, but for gamers they can’t buffer, freeze, pause, or lag even once or even for a second. That said, game streaming will become a relevant alternative. Gamers will never embrace it as the only option, but they will happily use it when they can’t otherwise download (or are away from their console). Xcloud will just be the first step to that. Apple will need to tread VERY carefully if they plan to stand in the way of that.
I mean, honestly the restrictions themselves are insane (following the same logic they need to get Netflix, hulu, and etc off the AppStore). I don’t believe they actually want an even playing field, so much as keep their users in their spending economy. But really it doesn’t matter. Even if they are trying to keep things fair for alll developers, that’s just too bad. Microsoft has already struck a deal with Samsung to give additional months of GPU and make xCloud more appealing on their phones. I like Apple Arcade. Good apps, a nice promise, and its only $50 for a year. I’m not going to stop paying for Apple Arcade if they let xCloud come (I hardly even use it now and have no plans to cancel it). But if nothing changes I’m going to HAVE to switch to a Samsung phone to make the most of my GPU subscription (I need an android for emulators anyway), and then I definitely won’t be paying for Apple Arcade anymore. Apple will be forced to start weighing its options soon and I expect they’ll admit they were wrong, instead if risking losing all their customers to Samsung (or literally any other phone). It doesn’t matter how good their technology is, if it’s being held back by archaic developer and app store policies.
Despite what some people are saying: No, game streaming will NEVER be the future of gaming. They will NEVER replace downloading games on a console or pc. Games will only get more demanding, and internet infrastructure in the U.S still sucks. Ever had a video buffer? Games are way more demanding, but for gamers they can’t buffer, freeze, pause, or lag even once or even for a second. That said, game streaming will become a relevant alternative. Gamers will never embrace it as the only option, but they will happily use it when they can’t otherwise download (or are away from their console). Xcloud will just be the first step to that. Apple will need to tread VERY carefully if they plan to stand in the way of that.
I mean, honestly the restrictions themselves are insane (following the same logic they need to get Netflix, hulu, and etc off the AppStore). I don’t believe they actually want an even playing field, so much as keep their users in their spending economy. But really it doesn’t matter. Even if they are trying to keep things fair for alll developers, that’s just too bad. Microsoft has already struck a deal with Samsung to give additional months of GPU and make xCloud more appealing on their phones. I like Apple Arcade. Good apps, a nice promise, and its only $50 for a year. I’m not going to stop paying for Apple Arcade if they let xCloud come (I hardly even use it now and have no plans to cancel it). But if nothing changes I’m going to HAVE to switch to a Samsung phone to make the most of my GPU subscription (I need an android for emulators anyway), and then I definitely won’t be paying for Apple Arcade anymore. Apple will be forced to start weighing its options soon and I expect they’ll admit they were wrong, instead if risking losing all their customers to Samsung (or literally any other phone). It doesn’t matter how good their technology is, if it’s being held back by archaic developer and app store policies.