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Mini iPods, iLife Updates, No New CPUs at MacWorld Expo?

Originally posted by zim
Seems to me that if apple was going to release smaller colorful iPods, then it would have been smarter to have marketed them for the holidays, oh well.
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Totally agree. MWSF should be before the eoy and be an outlook for the following year. Announce new products a month before the holidays.. Never understood why they do that.....

Apple - "We'll announce and release all are great new products after the biggest purchasing time of the year." Steve (aka Mr. Burns) - "We'll make them lust for the new products long enough to make them mad. Excellent."
 
If anything, we may see a small price drop with the PowerMac and Powerbook lines - or even a free...something. Computer prices keep going down - Apple tries to slow the process, but it does have to yield at a certain point.
 
Originally posted by pgwalsh
Totally agree. MWSF should be before the eoy and be an outlook for the following year. Announce new products a month before the holidays.. Never understood why they do that.....

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It is curious. BUt you'd need to have MW in October, or early Nov., to get products out in time. Having in Dec. would get lost in teh holiday rush.

But, yeah, it's odd having it ]right after Christmas, so people see the new stuff barely after opening the packages on teh old stuff.

Of course, Apple probably figures that holiday buyers aren't looking to buy the absolute newest product.

Of course, while this may work for computers, a low-priced iPod coming out after Christmas is just plain stupid. It should have been announced in November and put on sale the weekend before Thanksgiving. They would have flown out of stores.

I guess now at least they can fly out of stores just in time to get filled up with songs through the pepsi promotion.
 
Originally posted by Le Big Mac
so, how much for the iLife updates? Free? Free with Panther upgrade? $49 for the batch? (iDVD excepted).
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All the iLife apps (except iDVD) have been free downloads for any OS X user. I don't expect this to change any time soon. 🙂

[edit: oops - beaten to it... really should refresh before I post 😉]
 
I sincerely hope that iLife gets updated... as the the entire 'Digital Hub' campaign needs a bit of a facelift as every computer company and their dog is going for this digital hub idea. but only apple can pull it off with such aplomb.

and iPhoto needs some speed enhancements.
 
Originally posted by neilw
The iMac could use a shot in the arm, to be sure, but having just brought out the 20" they may try to hold out until the new stuff is really ready. We'll see!
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But the 20" is nothing more then a different screen. They have already made a profit on the 20".
 
Originally posted by Le Big Mac

Of course, while this may work for computers, a low-priced iPod coming out after Christmas is just plain stupid.
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... but at ~$100, they're a prime target for people to buy with money they received for Christmas.

In fact, at $100 (~£60), that's heading into impulse-buy territory for some people.
 
Originally posted by displaced
All the iLife apps (except iDVD) have been free downloads for any OS X user. I don't expect this to change any time soon.
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Not so sure. If they intoduce more iApps and they implement the buying option in software update, I think we may see purchasing options for iDVD and possibly the new iApp.
 
Apple isn't stupid.

the iPod is in big demand, even with its high price. the profit margins are off the charts. Apple wants people buying the pricey iPods for Christmas. And they are.

If they come out with cheap quality iPods for 100-200, the profit margins would have to be drastically reduced... They might, say, have to sell 10 cheap iPods for the profit of one high-end iPod.

So by doing this, they maximize profilts... then they will have cheaper units to push for the Pepsi/Superbowl time.
 
Re: Re: Stockholders. Get ready to short AAPL

Originally posted by rt_brained
Anticipated by whom? They already seem to have adopted a virtual zero launch policy for MWSF.
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Hmmm...at the last Macworld Expo SF, they launched two groundbreaking new models of PowerBook that were completely unexpected. I think that was kind of a big product launch.

And...you know...the Macworld Expo SF before that (2002) they released the flat panel iMac. Also, kind of a 'big' product launch.

The year before that (2001), Apple introduced the Titanium PowerBook and speed-bumped G4 towers, which was also a really big product launch.

So, I don't understand where in the world people get the idea Apple doesn't launch products at Macworld SF. It seems like it is the opposite: Apple always announces new hardware at Macworld SF.

Still, it's possible this year could be the exception.

Someone else commented that this was sounding very much like last year, where everyone expected eMac/iMac updates, and they didn't come.

So the question becomes: what will be the major surprise hardware announcement? An XServe G5? I think that's expected, and wouldn't surprise anyone...so going by recent history, there will be something else.
 
iPods are sold out this xmas... and Apple expected this.

They apparently sold as many ipods as they could make.

arn
 
Originally posted by snahabed
Apple isn't stupid.

the iPod is in big demand, even with its high price. the profit margins are off the charts. Apple wants people buying the pricey iPods for Christmas. And they are.

If they come out with cheap quality iPods for 100-200, the profit margins would have to be drastically reduced... They might, say, have to sell 10 cheap iPods for the profit of one high-end iPod.

So by doing this, they maximize profilts... then they will have cheaper units to push for the Pepsi/Superbowl time.
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That's short-sighted if that's what they're really doing. People that can afford it, will buy it. People that can't will buy something else. If you can afford the 40GB iPod you're going to buy it.. You're not going to change your mind for a $100 pink iPod that is 5GB.

I think Apple should get as many people on board as possible with rivals ramping up.. Especially with MS in the mix.. ugh.
 
Re: Stockholders. Get ready to short AAPL

Originally posted by ipiloot
If they don't introduce new processors at Macworld, the stock price will possibly head down. Because new processors are highly anticipated.
Besides, it's down already. If that happens, I'll buy for all my money. Last chance like that was after the big slump of 2000/2001, when the price eventually hit 14.
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Highly anticipated? Why? By whom? The Rumor community? I'm sure all of Wall Street is hanging on MacRumors' every word on whether to buy or sell, and not on Apple press releases, earnings reports, etc. 🙄

Plus, your subject line says to short Apple, yet you say if this happens, you'll "buy for all my money" - are you buying or short selling?
 
Apple's Idea, in selling only old iPods for christmas was good in two ways. First, they make much more money selling you a 40g iPod, and second if they are planning to introduce new mini-pods they need to sell all their current inventory. I think that the mini-pods will sell many times more than the current iPods, which is what apple wants. But at the same time, less people will now buy the old ones, in favor of the new ones, and ultimately the demand for the old/larger ipods will fall, resulting in apple having a lot of 40-gigs lying around. They figure that if they can get them out the door now, when people want them, they'll be in good shape for MWSF.
 
Perfect Price Point

The $99 price point is magical -- look at what Palm did when it released the $99 Zire. On a feature-per-dollar basis, the Zire was a miserable buy. But the psychology of a two-digit price is very powerful.

Price the mini-iPod at $99, package it in blister packs, sell it at broad-market retailers, and, as Emeril would say, BAM!
 
A Smaller form factor iPod may only have a 2 line screen, but still have the normal iPod controls, these may use flash memory and if they were $100 I would buy one so fast!
 
MacOSRumors: Big iPod?

MacOSRumors is claiming that there will be another "iPod" -

There may be three iPods: a full-size desktop firewire HD device that includes iPod functionality but offers larger, better-performing hard disks and will probably support Firewire 800, a low-cost version of the existing 1.8-inch iPod that will initially begin at $199 and later drop as low as $129, and a "Mini-iPod" with new 1-inch drives by Toshiba at their core, in sizes of 2GB, 4GB, and 10GB that will be remarkably small, light, and thin.
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I wonder if the big iPod (assuming the rumor has any value) will be some kind of DVR device?

Arn, how is MacOSRumors record on rumors?
 
Thinksecret is usually pretty right... usually. I would be disappointed if they DIDN'T announce faster G5s though, even it meant "coming in a couple weeks" (though no few months like at WWDC).
 
I don't understand why people are getting so pissed for.

If apple announces the new iPods in Jan then we won't actually see it till Feb or Mar. That being the case then there was no way they could have launched it in time for Christmas which would have been September or October. Plus the component costs would have been much more expensive if they tried to rush it since all the consumer electronics in demand this christmas eats up a lot of the supply chain. Most of the must have items this christmas are relatively dated technology.

Christmas is a critical time for a company, sure it's nice to have a shiny new gadget launch in time but if the quality or attention to detail isn't there then you failed to deliver for your consumers. Introducing it in the spring gives Apple 9 months to streamline the production and update and revise the product a little, also it lets word of mouth gain more and more momentum, that's what you need ultimately for a killer product.

Trust me, any time Apple rushes a product to market they get hosed very very badly (G4 Cube, Newton, Digital Camera) best wait till the product is good and ready. There's always next Christmas, I doubt anyone will be able to leapfrog Apple on this front. The mini iPod will be cashing in on its bigger siblings success and borrowing a lot of its cachet and credibility, not neccesarily introducing revolutionary new technology to the market.
 
No hardware announcements? Think Secret has got to be kidding.

I'm still waiting for the PowerBook updates before I get my 15". The iBooks are breathing down the PowerBooks' neck. Frankly, I don't want my PowerBook to share the same processor with an iBook. After all I'm going to pay a lot for it.
 
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