My current monitor, the HP ZR24w has a DVI, VGA, and DP connector. NO HDMI connector.
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MiniDisplay Port to HDMI Cables "Unlicensed" and Cannot Be Sold
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My current monitor, the HP ZR24w has a DVI, VGA, and DP connector. NO HDMI connector.
Well with thunderbolt here by now it'd be more of a pain to change to HDMI.
Are the feds gonna come knocking at my door for my DVI -> HDMI cable then?
It's heresy!
Oh god.... You can't get a clear output with VGA at high res, also the via connection is terrible big. fake tech guys like you just turn on noob users like the other here wanting via on a MacBook.
It's an emerging standard -- look how long it took DVI to take off.
A quick look at NewEgg shows them selling 35 different LCD monitors with DisplayPort inputs, and almost 70 graphics cards with mDP outputs.
Most people who use Macs use them for their work, and if they need to connect to a projector have an adapter.
Sound like the people in your class who bought a mac, (Or had it bought for them), did not do any research as to if it is the correct laptop for them, and if they need any adapters to connect to your School/College/University A/V equipment.
I would have thought that would be real important.
That's great for analogue CRT monitors but not so good for LCD which needs digital to present the image. the only problem with vga was that became an analogue hop in a digital path.
Display port is digital all the way unlike the other digital it was designed to drive digital display panels of any size and is the only one that can be used to connect the internal display and external on the same bus.
Time and time again, you get refuted, and you always come back with some new statement, only to be refuted once again:
http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-15z/pd.aspx
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...oks/promo_tile/2/lp_promo_tile2_HP_ENVY_14_77
(click on specs/tech specs and scroll down until you read mini DisplayPort)
You might have missed it, but mDP adoption proceeding along quite well, despite your viewpoints.
VGA is analog. Yes, it supports "HD" resolutions, but only VERY expensive monitors or VERY short cable lengths let those look like anything but crap.
Digital is cheaper to create (no D/A converter in the video card), transmit losslessly, and display (no A/D converter in the monitor).
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(And some would have you believe the US is a "free country"...)
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Something is definitely fishy here. Monoprice still has plenty of HDMI (male) to DVI cables for sale? Unless DVI is somehow exempt this seems to be the same kind of issue.
Personally I hate Apple's standard adapters as they leave a huge block near the ports and block the rest of the ports from being used.
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What the hell are you talking about.
They can't stop you, but they certainly can stop manufacturers making these cables, and they can stop sale and importation of such cables. Essentially, it's a copyright issue -- you don't have a license to make this! Stop violating my IP!
Because HDMI licensing, LLC owns the shape and form of the HDMI plug. Don't use it in ways they like, then they can say you're not allowed to use it at all.
Well, my mDP to HDMI cable works great - licensed or not.
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Because it's patented and copyrighted...
HDMI and HDCP are licensed tech owned by the organization. So they get to say what versions can be licensed. If you make something like an HDMI cable, and all it the "it just works" cable, that will violate their patents / copyrights, and you'll get sued.
HDMI / HDCP is a PITA (as is DVI with HDCP, I believe covered under various licenses so those conversions are allowed). The whole thing is there because content providers (basically ALL HD content) is copy protected via the HDMI/HDCP scheme. No piece of the chain from the player (computer, whatever) to the display can be "broken into" and there cables and interfaces check for various signals and flags.
Since the org can't check the MDP for HDCP compliance (or so they say ...), they won't / can't allow those cables to exist in the wild.
Eddie O
HDMI and HDCP are licensed tech owned by the organization. So they get to say what versions can be licensed. If you make something like an HDMI cable, and all it the "it just works" cable, that will violate their patents / copyrights, and you'll get sued.
HDMI / HDCP is a PITA (as is DVI with HDCP, I believe covered under various licenses so those conversions are allowed). The whole thing is there because content providers (basically ALL HD content) is copy protected via the HDMI/HDCP scheme. No piece of the chain from the player (computer, whatever) to the display can be "broken into" and there cables and interfaces check for various signals and flags.
Since the org can't check the MDP for HDCP compliance (or so they say ...), they won't / can't allow those cables to exist in the wild.
Eddie O
VGA is iffy over 6 feet (2 meters), and almost any connector (extension cable) in the chain will cause ghosting due to electronic reflections. Long cables also can lead to timing issues (misaligned colors). HDMI / DVI also has length limitation, but because they are digital, it pretty easy to put CAT5 boxes in as an extender. That's what I use for my ceiling mounted projector with the Faroudja scaler 25 feet away in the stereo cab.
Eddie I
And even then, that's DisplayPort, isn't it? NOT Mini DisplayPort. So you need one of these http://estore.circuitassembly.com/p...isplayport-Adapter-Cable.html?setCurrencyId=2
No one seems to use the miniature port except Apple, and Apple don't even sell a DP to mini DP cable.
It doesn't matter how open or standard something is if it's never used and you need adaptors all the time. What they should've done was have a full-sized DisplayPort connector with a DP-HDMI and DP-DVI cable in the box, as the old Apple used to do (serial adaptors, composite to S-video, etc).
whoever runs HDMI Org is obviously stupid...why make it more difficult to use a proprietary connector? just collect your stupid license fee and be happy. hopefully HDMI will die faster so we can move on to DisplayPort.
to comment on the complaints about how uncommon (m)DP is right now: at this point DP is only used on higher-end monitors while cheaper monitors use VGA, DVI, and HDMI. VGA is ancient and needs to die. from what I understand, HDMI only exists because DVI doesn't support audio. DP does, and it's open, unlike DVI and HDMI. I'm pulling for DP since it does everything and anyone can use the design.
however, from what I've seen, mini-DP is just a bastard child that no one cares about except Apple. I've only seen mDP on Apple or designed-for-Apple components.
to comment on the complaints about how uncommon (m)DP is right now: at this point DP is only used on higher-end monitors while cheaper monitors use VGA, DVI, and HDMI. VGA is ancient and needs to die. from what I understand, HDMI only exists because DVI doesn't support audio. DP does, and it's open, unlike DVI and HDMI. I'm pulling for DP since it does everything and anyone can use the design.
however, from what I've seen, mini-DP is just a bastard child that no one cares about except Apple. I've only seen mDP on Apple or designed-for-Apple components.
The Monoprice MDP to HDMI cables I have pass audio from my late 2009 27" iMac and mid-2011 MBP 13".