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Why would any of that be Apple's responsibility? They gave a small company a huge opportunity but they didn't take it seriously enough and totally blew it.

Usually an opportunity is granted after the vendor proves beyond a reasonable doubt that they can do what they say they can do. Not many companies blindly offer multi-hundred million dollar contracts without seeing a product.

As another poster pointed-out, it now makes sense why the contract was so strict and one-sided in Apple's favor. They basically took a calculated risk to see if they could win the day with epic scaling and delivery from someone that had never done it before. If it worked, great. If not, we'll just go back to gorilla glass - which is what they did.

Pretty amazing story, really.
 
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Oh, yeah, you're supposed to make sure there are no frogs in the aluminum prior to heating. Easy mistake.
 
Said it before, I'll say it again--when we look at these reports of GTA's severe production troubles with sapphire, let's not forget that prior to inking the deal with Apple they were primarily a PV silicon manufacturer, and one that had just had its entire business collapse due to the implosion of the PV market. The company was a financial mess and sales were in the toilet in 2013; this new sapphire process was their way of engineering their way out of a death spiral by switching to a new product that wasn't suffering from a flooded market.

Which is a perfectly good plan, so long as you can A) Find someone to finance the scale-up, and B) actually produce the product in question at scale.

Basically, though, this wasn't just a gamble on a huge payoff if they scaled the sapphire--the company was already failing in 2013, so it was a gamble to save the company from potential bankruptcy.
As another poster pointed-out, it now makes sense why the contract was so strict and one-sided in Apple's favor.
That's what I was thinking--based on some of this, while GTA had plenty of experience with PV silicon, they were basically unproven at any kind of scale with sapphire, and Apple figured they'd dump a bunch of money into the process to see if it could go somewhere, with Gorilla Glass as the backup. But they certainly weren't going to pony up half a billon dollars for an unproven process without a pretty big axe hanging over GTA's head to make sure they delivered (or suffered badly if they didn't).
 
Wow. Definitely paints a far different picture than previous articles that pointed the finger at Apple as asking too much of GTAT. Looks like GT really screwed the pooch on this one by not properly building the capacity to make the sapphire. Might need to get into one of those lawsuits after losing a couple grand.:(
 
As another poster pointed-out, it now makes sense why the contract was so strict and one-sided in Apple's favor.

Well it makes sense IF you are rational about how business works and companies calculate risk/reward into deals. But, if you are a perpetual Apple-hater it's still big guy picking on small guy no matter what evidence there is to show little guy's incompetence.
 
I would have loaned them the $139. Doesn't seem like a lot.

If the loans were that small from Apple, no wonder they went bankrupt so fast :rolleyes:

I think that must've been a typo? $139 is pennies when it costs $20000 just for one boule.

They should have started with small scale production and proved the ability to produce the product consistently, and then slowly ramped up production to meet demands. The Apple deal was far too much for the small company to handle and the massive boom they went through led to them being bankrupt. Basically jumped head first off of a cliff.

Slow and steady wins the race in the end... usually.
 
I believe the contract they signed with Apple obligates all former GT employees to be part of human centipads.
 
Wasn't there anybody monitoring how these were created and trying to make adjustments to eliminate the cracks?? Some very simple adjustments might have made most of them usable, just takes some tweaking I would think. Sounds like they just wasted all the money and gave up or something. Very weird.
 
So what happened to the sapphire they made? Is it all sitting around Apple somewhere, as "prototype screens?"
 
were GT forced into the contract with Apple? no - they just got greedy and over reached, unless there have awful lawyers they must of been aware of the strict terms of the contract they signed with Apple.
 
Apple is for sure very demanding with its suppliers but never trying to sink them

so GT tried to screw Apple :rolleyes:
 
A lot of people asking why Apple would sign a contract with these guys when they had no proven track record - don't forget the contract placed all the risk with GT. Also, there's nothing here to counter GT's claim that Apple refused to buy the hardware GT believed was required.

I doubt we'll eve truly know what happened, as Apple won't publicly give their side of the story. Dignity, arrogance, paranoia, call it what you like, but I think they'll keep tight lipped about it.
 
This partnership never made any sense to me. Apple puts up all the money, and takes all the risk to front these clowns? And they're caught off guard like this after loaning millions upon millions of dollars? Who put this deal together?

Why wasn't it a better idea to handle this in house again?? What exactly did GT bring to the table?
 
That said, Apple clearly had a backup plan to use the standard gorilla glass on the 6/6+ and executed it when GT didn't deliver. Good planning on that front likely saved the year (what happens when you have millions of phones ready to go and no covers?).

I bet that Apple has backup plans for their backup plans. There's too much at stake not to.
 
Couldn't manage, couldn't deliver and burnt through 1/4 billion in 3 months.
GT, if this story is true, were un supervised brats in a candy store.
 
Couldn't manage, couldn't deliver and burnt through 1/4 billion in 3 months.
GT, if this story is true, were un supervised brats in a candy store.

Tell me about it. Someone made out here...... I'd love to know what the salaries of the upper management were......
 
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