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Missing Windows, Should i return the MBP. Need Help Please
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Keep it.
I also switched from Windows a few years ago, and the first few months were a struggle. Learn the basic keyboard shortcuts and everything becomes much easier.
e.g.
press the power button, let go, then
- return to shut down
- s to sleep
- escape to cancel
Press command and
- tab to switch between apps
- ' to switch between windows in the same app
- q to quit an app
- s to save
- shift s to save as
- x,c, v to cut,copy and paste
- o to open a file
- space to open a small spotlight window - then type the name of an app or file and press return to open it instantly.
press function and delete to do a forward delete
in the finder (same as windows explorer):
arrow keys move around, type the first letter of a name to jump to a filename
press command and
- down arrow to open the selected file or app or folder
- up arrow to move to enclosing folder.
- n for new finder window
- shift n for create new folder
These are just the shortcuts I use the most. Try each one out, and just remember the ones you find most useful.
Yes it is a learning curve, but I love my mac now.
And I strongly recommend installing BootCamp. It's free, and now, while your HD is quite empty, is the easiest and quickest time to install BootCamp. It will give you more confidence, knowing you have something to fall back on.
I also switched from Windows a few years ago, and the first few months were a struggle. Learn the basic keyboard shortcuts and everything becomes much easier.
e.g.
press the power button, let go, then
- return to shut down
- s to sleep
- escape to cancel
Press command and
- tab to switch between apps
- ' to switch between windows in the same app
- q to quit an app
- s to save
- shift s to save as
- x,c, v to cut,copy and paste
- o to open a file
- space to open a small spotlight window - then type the name of an app or file and press return to open it instantly.
press function and delete to do a forward delete
in the finder (same as windows explorer):
arrow keys move around, type the first letter of a name to jump to a filename
press command and
- down arrow to open the selected file or app or folder
- up arrow to move to enclosing folder.
- n for new finder window
- shift n for create new folder
These are just the shortcuts I use the most. Try each one out, and just remember the ones you find most useful.
Yes it is a learning curve, but I love my mac now.
And I strongly recommend installing BootCamp. It's free, and now, while your HD is quite empty, is the easiest and quickest time to install BootCamp. It will give you more confidence, knowing you have something to fall back on.
Exactly. And don't forget:
CMND-H to hide the app
CMND-W to close a window
CMND-M to minimize a window
And assuming you're on Leopard, try using Spaces and set up a keyboard shortcut to switch between different sets of apps.
Install Windows on it through Bootcamp. Then, if there's an Apple Store near you, consider taking advantage of one-on-one training. Once you discover all the features and benefits of OS X, I'm confident that you'll realize how much superior the Mac operating system is. While that doesn't solve your Office problem, you'll at least be able to boot into your Windows partition through Fusion (Fusion let's you run your Windows partition in the virtual environment) and enjoy OS X. That is.... if you want to.
As a former switcher, let me tell you that if you give OS X some time, you will not only get used to it, but will love it. My MBP and I are like this: "two fingers joined." 
I say keep it and give it a shot. Go get some personalized training at the Apple Store ($2/session isn't bad! )
You've always got a huge resale value on eBay if you hate it.
)You've always got a huge resale value on eBay if you hate it.
It is this type of arrogant mac user that i've had to fight when converting people to OSX. People stick with Vista just to spite your type. Grow up and learn to convince instead of insult.
Oh I don't think you'll miss the task bar after a bit.
You can switch windows/programs in a few ways. You can click the Dock icons to switch (they aren't just for opening the program.) You can use Command-tab. You can use Expose. You can use Spaces to segregate apps and windows. You can click Window in the menu bar and then select which Window you want within the program. You have use a corner of the screen to activate Expose (my current favorite.) You just move your mouse to the upper left corner, for example, to activate Expose. ........yada yada yada.
I'm sure there's even 3rd party programs that give you even more ways to do this.
The bigger problem is Office. If you really need features in the Windows version of Office you're going to have to run Windows via Fusion or Parallels or Bootcamp. Also explore OFfice 2k8. Some of the features you need might be in a different location or have a different name.
worst case too you can run Windows full-time if you want.
You can switch windows/programs in a few ways. You can click the Dock icons to switch (they aren't just for opening the program.) You can use Command-tab. You can use Expose. You can use Spaces to segregate apps and windows. You can click Window in the menu bar and then select which Window you want within the program. You have use a corner of the screen to activate Expose (my current favorite.) You just move your mouse to the upper left corner, for example, to activate Expose. ........yada yada yada.
I'm sure there's even 3rd party programs that give you even more ways to do this.
The bigger problem is Office. If you really need features in the Windows version of Office you're going to have to run Windows via Fusion or Parallels or Bootcamp. Also explore OFfice 2k8. Some of the features you need might be in a different location or have a different name.
worst case too you can run Windows full-time if you want.
returning will cost you 10% of the original price.
unless you plan to get a much cheaper windows laptop ($300 cheaper), you might just stick to the MBP and install windows on it.
switching to a new os, no matter how easy apple would like to tell you, isn't that easy for everybody.
keep in the mind here is MR forum, so alot of people are apple stock holders,,,,so some people might not really care about your need than apple's need
unless you plan to get a much cheaper windows laptop ($300 cheaper), you might just stick to the MBP and install windows on it.
switching to a new os, no matter how easy apple would like to tell you, isn't that easy for everybody.
keep in the mind here is MR forum, so alot of people are apple stock holders,,,,so some people might not really care about your need than apple's need
I think no one has suggested this, but in your case, the best thing to do is to install Windows using boot camp... I suppose you don't want o run VMWare or Parallels simply because it gets slow and you have to log into Mac OS, then open VMWare and load Windows.... If you use Boot Camp (which is, by the way, bundled with Mac OS X) you can even tell your computer to always start on Windows... That way you will have a Windows machine that looks like a Mac on the outside (beacuse it is a Mac!).... Also, if you decide to give Mac OS a shot by using it once in a while, you will still perfectly be able to do it.
In your case, returning the computer will be the total wrong answer. Install Windows on your Mac and you're good to go... Oh, do you know which is the fastest computer to run Windows Vista?? A MacBook Pro!
In your case, returning the computer will be the total wrong answer. Install Windows on your Mac and you're good to go... Oh, do you know which is the fastest computer to run Windows Vista?? A MacBook Pro!
you're right lol sorry... i hadn't read them...
oh, by the way, i am myself a new mac user now... i had windows all my life and i've been wanting to switch since like years ago... i finally did and i totally love it. of couse, it is different, but once you get used to it, it's way better than windows.
oh, by the way, i am myself a new mac user now... i had windows all my life and i've been wanting to switch since like years ago... i finally did and i totally love it. of couse, it is different, but once you get used to it, it's way better than windows.
Just a suggestion here:
Maybe try using Microsoft Mac Office 2004?
It's what I use on my 3 month old C2D Macbook, and I'm perfectly happy with it. MS still release updates for it on a regular basis. (every couple of months)
Some people say it's the best office ever, on both mac and PC. I don't like saying things like that, as it's a bit fanboyish, but it's available for cheap everywhere, and it has the same interface as PC office (up to the 2007 version).
Well worth it if you're used to the pre-2007 interface as I fully agree both a new OS and a new Office interface is far too much to deal with all at once.
Maybe try using Microsoft Mac Office 2004?
It's what I use on my 3 month old C2D Macbook, and I'm perfectly happy with it. MS still release updates for it on a regular basis. (every couple of months)
Some people say it's the best office ever, on both mac and PC. I don't like saying things like that, as it's a bit fanboyish, but it's available for cheap everywhere, and it has the same interface as PC office (up to the 2007 version).
Well worth it if you're used to the pre-2007 interface as I fully agree both a new OS and a new Office interface is far too much to deal with all at once.
And it's this type of high-horse poster who is so wrapped up on seriousness that they haven't learned how to take a joke instead of just being stuck up.
If I wanted to insult him, I would have said something insulting. The point of my post was to try to impress upon him the importance of geting used to the operating system. Old people usually are resistant to new technology or are not that efficient in learning a new system, and when the OP put up that poll and was doubting that he could learn a new OS, I was playfully making fun.
I said it with jocularity. Calm down.
Sorry. I reacted like that because i saw your vitriol on Ars when the arch changed.
Don't worry, no offense taken and none intended. But what does your reply I quoted mean?