MLB 2009 Season

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by zioxide, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. zioxide macrumors 603

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    Since pitchers and catchers report in just over 12 hours, I figured it was probably time to get this thread started.

    Lots of questions as this season draws near... were the Rays for real, will the yankees $400 million dollar spending spree help them or will they still end up in 3rd place, will the phillies be best in the nl east again, or will the mets finally not suck?

    Oh yeah, Go Sox :D
     
  2. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Oh goody it begins again.:) I see the AL east being a 3 team race between the Rays, Sox, and Yanks. If everything goes according to plan I don't think we will see a true frontrunner until late August.
     
  3. macfan881 macrumors 68020

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    here my predictions for 09
    AL East
    Yankees
    Rays
    Redsox
    Toronto
    Baltimore

    AL Central
    Minesota
    Whitesox
    Cleavland
    Kansas
    Detroit

    AL West
    Anahiem
    Oakland
    Rangers
    Seatle


    NL East
    Phillies
    Mets
    Braves
    Flordia
    Washington

    NL Central
    Cubs
    ST Louis
    Astros
    Cincinati
    Pitsburg
    Brewers

    NL West this is hard to do i think all teams got worse and i belive if the Dodgers dont sign manny that will be a lose but anyway
    Diamondbacks
    Dodgers
    Padres
    SF
    Colorado
     
  4. macfan881 macrumors 68020

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    and then playoffs would Be Yankees Minnesota Anahiem and Tampa as the Wildcard

    NL Phillies Cubs Diamondbacks and Dodgers as wild card

    and Wolrd Series Yankees VS Cubs and sorry cubs fans Yankees win world series

    AL MVP
    A-Rod
    AL CY Young
    CC Sabathia

    NL Cy young
    Santana

    NL MVP
    Ryan Howard
     
  5. MacNut macrumors Core

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    That looks great on paper, lets see how A-Rod handles this season. Way to soon to be making predictions.
     
  6. Silencio macrumors 68020

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    I think the Giants significantly improved in the off-season. Enough to win the division? Doubtful. No way do they finish behind the pathetic Padres, though!

    1. Dodgers (will inevitably re-sign Manny)
    2. Giants (will acquire a bat in a mid-season trade and make it a tight race)
    3. D-Backs (downgrading from Johnson to Garland will hurt them)
    4. Rockies
    5. Padres
     
  7. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    Right. I think this order is more likely, though Arizona and SF are interchangeable at this point. If the Dodgers finally do get Manny, then they will have improved significantly over the beginning of the last season.
     
  8. wvuwhat macrumors 65816

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    All I care is that the Sox make the playoffs and do well and the Yankees fall flat and miss them again. I don't care about anything else.
     
  9. zioxide thread starter macrumors 603

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    there's no way A-Roid is winning the MVP now
     
  10. furcalchick macrumors 68020

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    spring games starting soon...let's put our baseball talks here instead of in the hot stove thread.
     
  11. TSE macrumors 68030

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    I personally think CC Sabathia isn't going to be as good this season either, for a couple reasons:

    Last season, he seriously threw about 250 innings, which is pretty much unheard of from pitchers nowadays, that might have tired out his arm.

    He got a big contract, so maybe mentally he isn't as tensed anymore which sometimes helps players, but other players once they relax, flop.

    The New York pressure is inevitably always a chance at failure. He never was on a big market team.

    There is just too much that can go wrong there. I wouldn't be surprised if he did almost as good, but if he also flopped I wouldn't be surprised.
     
  12. zioxide thread starter macrumors 603

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    Spring Training games have begun... baseball is officially back :D
     
  13. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    New offer to Manny:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-mannyoffer022509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&expire=1
     
  14. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Manny has to know that the deals won't get any bigger.
     
  15. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    He had to know that at least a month ago, but that didn't stop him and Boras from trying to squeeze more out of the Dodgers (with a little help from our friends in San Francisco). The article doesn't make it clear that the second year in this offer is a player option, which means it's up to the player to decide if he wants to exercise it. If this deal does go through, it will be interesting to see what happens next winter. But that would be getting way ahead of ourselves.
     
  16. MacNut macrumors Core

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    The game of chicken continues. Manny rejected the Dodgers latest offer.
     
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    O-Cab is gonna get signed before Manny does.




    Is it opening day yet?
     
  18. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    Un freaking credible. I'm rapidly beginning not to care anymore.
     
  19. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Your move Boras.
     
  20. Sayhey macrumors 68000

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    Always glad to help out, IJ. ;)

    I'm curious as to your take on the Dodgers starting pitching, and their line-up without Manny? I think the Dodgers have taken a serious hit in their rotation with the loss of both Penny and Lowe. I like Billingsley, but after that I'm not impressed. I also think the Dodgers will miss Kent's bat in their line-up, and without Manny they are not any better than most of the Western Division in terms of offense. I do think you've got a defense down south that is going to be one of the better in baseball. The core of young players in Kemp, Loney, Martin, and Ethier are folks I expect to just get better, but I've been surprised before by sudden declines. Still, with Manny, the Dodgers look to be the favorites. My Giants, while I love their pitching and some of the young talent, have still too many questions to be answered to rank them as anything but contenders for second or third with the Diamondbacks. I don't see either the Padres or the Rockies as serious threats.

    Now, if Manny sits out the season or comes north (neither of which I expect to happen,) then we have a very different picture.
     
  21. MacNut macrumors Core

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    If the Giants made an offer would they be wiling to pay Manny if he actually accepted it. Right now they are just baiting the Dodgers but would Manny call the Giants bluff.
     
  22. Sayhey macrumors 68000

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    From what I understand the Giants have only talked "concepts" with Boros. I take that to mean no offer has been made and no offer is likely to be made. If the Giants could get Manny on a one year deal, I think they would overpay for him. Locking themselves into a longer term deal, especially three years or more which is what it would likely take to get him, makes little sense for the Giants. But to answer your question, any team that puts an offer on the table that it isn't willing to go through with is totally crazy. "Concepts" are fine if you want your rival to bid against themselves, but once you put money on the line it is a different ballgame.
     
  23. MacNut macrumors Core

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    So if it really is just the Dodgers biding, will Manny just sit out if he doesn't get something to his liking. Or will he be forced to take what the Dodgers give him.
     
  24. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    The Dodgers will be hurt by the absence of Lowe, but since they didn't have Penny for more than a few poorly pitched games last season, it's difficult to argue that they've lost him. It is arguable that the Dodgers will lack a certified ace at the top of the rotation, but if you look at his numbers from last season, Billingsley could well become that pitcher this season. Down the rotation nobody looks as consistent as Billingsley but I think everybody is pretty solid down to number four, and Kershaw has a lot of upside potential. The number five slot is a big question mark, but it is for most teams at this point. Dodger fans are pretty excited by James McDonald. If he works out, be on notice that Billingsley-Kershaw-McDonald could be heart of an awesome rotation for some years to come.

    Our infield is going to be great this year, if everybody stays healthy as much as can be expected. I don't think we'll miss Kent all that much. He's being replaced by a much better glove in Hudson, and a respectable bat, if not as much power as Kent. Having Blake here to start the season is a big plus, as is having the dead weight of Andruw Jones out of the way.

    I'm also liking what I'm hearing from Martin this spring. He's been told by Joe that he won't be starting more than 160 games, and it seems he finally understands why. Martin is a talented ballplayer but he's got almost too much drive. He tries to do everything. It sounds like he's growing up with the game. The other youngsters are also full of upside potential at this point, especially Kemp.

    I don't want to sound like too much of a homie, but I think even without Manny, the Dodgers have to be favored to win the NLW. With Manny, they're close to a lock.
     

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