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It’s pretty common here to need a pass to be out of class for any reason, even the bathroom. My daughters school is actually using their IDs to get into the bathroom now. They need to be scanned so they know how long they’re in there for.
It’s a security thing too. The high school here uses RFID card readers in the student ID just like certain office buildings. This way only students and staff can open certain doors.

Of course all that has to happen is an absent minded kid holds the door open for someone else and security hold is now flawed.
 



Major League Baseball today fined Arizona Diamondbacks coach Ariel Prieto after he wore his Apple Watch in the dugout during a game against the Colorado Rockies on Wednesday night, reports The New York Times.

Prieto violated rules against the use of electronic communications devices when he wore the Apple Watch during the game. Major League Baseball investigated and said there was no sign the watch was used for anything suspicious.

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Though the watch was not misused, Prieto and the Diamondbacks received a fine in an "undisclosed amount" just for having the watch in the dugout. The money will be donated to hurricane relief efforts in Puerto Rico.

The Boston Red Sox were also fined last month for using electronic communications devices in the dugout to more quickly relay the opposing team's signs to players on the field. The device in that event was originally said to be an Apple Watch, but later reports suggested it was instead a Fitbit.

Article Link: MLB Coach Fined for Wearing Apple Watch During Game

Another way to extort money from folks, Amazing!
 
I love how people have been stealing signs since the beginning of baseball. And all the sudden someone does with a Apple Watch and everybody is freakin out.

Maybe the issue is that it's a lot harder to steal signs when they're sent over an encrypted network. The fact that signs do have to be sent "in the clear" means there's some risk in communicating between the dugout and the field. It helps level the playing field, so to speak. Electronic communication greatly reduces that risk.

I don't ever watch baseball, why does it matter if someone is wearing an Apple Watch in the dugout?

Baseball tries to stick to an old-time, traditional image. Many baseball stadiums are built to evoke 100-year-old styles. Major League Baseball requires that all bats be made of a single piece of wood - no aluminum bats allowed. The construction/materials of the ball hasn't changed since the Little Ice Age. While other sports have embraced technology on the field (football being the most obvious example, where some players have communications headsets inside their helmets, the coaches wear headsets throughout the game and carry Microsoft tablets...), baseball still prohibits any kind of electronics in the hands of players or the coaching staff.
 
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Because Apple isn't a sponsor. Ha. Ha. Just joking. Or am I?

Well, except that with pro (maybe college sports too), the rules are the rules except when they aren't the rules or at least they don't "see" a violation to enforce the rules. Of course, something obvious like this, it's a no brainer.
That seems to be a specialty in professional sports these days...
 
Baseball tries to stick to an old-time, traditional image. Many baseball stadiums are built to evoke 100-year-old styles. Major League Baseball requires that all bats be made of a single piece of wood - no aluminum bats allowed. The construction/materials of the ball hasn't changed since the Little Ice Age. While other sports have embraced technology on the field (football being the most obvious example, where some players have communications headsets inside their helmets, the coaches wear headsets throughout the game and carry Microsoft tablets...), baseball still prohibits any kind of electronics in the hands of players or the coaching staff.

Not any kind, only the kind not provided by MLB. The teams use iPads in the dugouts for sanctioned purposes.

But you know where else you can’t wear an Apple Watch? In the public galleries of the U.S. Congress. All technology is prohibited, presumably to keep it quiet. Other watches are allowed, but Apple Watch is specifically prohibited for some reason.
 
This whole sign stealing thing just illustrates how signs in general are a stupid archaic thing that slows down the game.

Here is an idea: Allow the pitcher and catcher to wear ear pieces, so they can hear what the pitching coach is telling them. They can then just nod yes or no. No signs, no confusion, no potential for sign stealing. And the game will go faster as the ritual of giving lots of fake signs is removed, and there would be fewer visits to the mound from the pitching coach.
 
I bet you're fun.
Why say this. Isn’t he right. The rules of baseball say they are illegal to have on during a game.
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This whole sign stealing thing just illustrates how signs in general are a stupid archaic thing that slows down the game.

Here is an idea: Allow the pitcher and catcher to wear ear pieces, so they can hear what the pitching coach is telling them. They can then just nod yes or no. No signs, no confusion, no potential for sign stealing. And the game will go faster as the ritual of giving lots of fake signs is removed, and there would be fewer visits to the mound from the pitching coach.
Changes the game.
 
He was just trying to stream his Apple Music playlists to his watch. :D

But glad to see the money was donated to Puerto Rico to help hurricane relief efforts.
 
Yecch, no. Just one of many bad ideas for dumbing down baseball.
Dumbing down? If anything, it would smarten it up. Using fingers to communicate pitches and areas of the strike zone is dumb, and a total waste of pitcher and catcher time trying to memorize all the archaic systems they have to come up with to throw of sign stealing. It isn't 1910 anymore - we have better ways of doing things.
 
Dumbing down? If anything, it would smarten it up. Using fingers to communicate pitches and areas of the strike zone is dumb, and a total waste of pitcher and catcher time trying to memorize all the archaic systems they have to come up with to throw of sign stealing. It isn't 1910 anymore - we have better ways of doing things.

You have it exactly backwards. Relaying and reading signs demands knowledge and intelligence from players and coaches, just one of the many factors that separate baseball from the other sports.

Clearly you don't know much about baseball. If you don't like the game, then watch something else.
 
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You have it exactly backwards. Relaying and reading signs demands knowledge and intelligence from players and coaches, just one of the many factors that separate baseball from the other sports.
I think that knowledge and intelligence can be better spent on other things.

Clearly you don't know much about baseball. If you don't like the game, then watch something else.
This attitude will ensure baseball fails as a business shortly. It's already struggling compared to the other major sports in the US. For what it's worth, I've been a fan for a long time and played quite a while as a kid. I know enough about baseball to appreciate it's history, but I also know enough to know the game is struggling and needs to adapt to stay relevant.
 
It sure does. I'd say by definition, any change to the game would change the game. Changes it for the better in this case.
How so? Part of the game is the intersection between the pitcher and catcher. The catcher giving signs is the way it’s always been and should always be. The games aren’t that long. Of course I love baseball and enjoy the small details of the game.
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I think that knowledge and intelligence can be better spent on other things.


This attitude will ensure baseball fails as a business shortly. It's already struggling compared to the other major sports in the US. For what it's worth, I've been a fan for a long time and played quite a while as a kid. I know enough about baseball to appreciate it's history, but I also know enough to know the game is struggling and needs to adapt to stay relevant.
Baseball isn’t going anywhere. If teams can pay a player 300 million. They are fine financially.
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Dumbing down? If anything, it would smarten it up. Using fingers to communicate pitches and areas of the strike zone is dumb, and a total waste of pitcher and catcher time trying to memorize all the archaic systems they have to come up with to throw of sign stealing. It isn't 1910 anymore - we have better ways of doing things.
Somethings shouldn’t change. Learning the signs. Please my 12 years old plays little league and can learn a few signs. More efficient doesn’t mean better
 
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How so? Part of the game is the intersection between the pitcher and catcher. The catcher giving signs is the way it’s always been and should always be. The games aren’t that long. Of course I love baseball and enjoy the small details of the game.

That's not true exactly. Early in baseball, there were no signs and the catcher just caught whatever the pitcher threw. Later it was actually pitchers that gave signs to catchers, instructing them where and how to catch. It wasn't until the ~1875 that catchers started being the ones giving pitchers signs, because of their less exposed position. Even then it didn't really take off and become normal for a bit after that.

The games are way too long, and they're getting longer. The biggest thing that most fans hate is the downtime during visits to the mount, either by catcher or coach. It's a total waste of time, and it disrespects the fans' time.

I love the little strategic details of the game well. I think this aspect can actually be improved if so much time wasn't wasted on arcane bs. Pitchers will still misthrow, and catchers will still miss catches. That won't change anyway.
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Somethings shouldn’t change. Learning the signs. Please my 12 years old plays little league and can learn a few signs. More efficient doesn’t mean better
Uh... yes it does. More efficient, without any other tradeoffs, pretty much does always mean better. So far nobody has actually said why my proposal is bad, other than "tradition."
 
I think that knowledge and intelligence can be better spent on other things.


This attitude will ensure baseball fails as a business shortly. It's already struggling compared to the other major sports in the US. For what it's worth, I've been a fan for a long time and played quite a while as a kid. I know enough about baseball to appreciate it's history, but I also know enough to know the game is struggling and needs to adapt to stay relevant.

Bloody nonsense. MLB is more profitable than ever.

I don't see how you can be much of a fan if you think pitching coaches are calling the pitches. That doesn't happen now and would be not be an improvement if it was started, if for no other reason than pitchers and catchers would still have to communicate on the pitch type and location.
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That's not true exactly. Early in baseball, there were no signs and the catcher just caught whatever the pitcher threw. Later it was actually pitchers that gave signs to catchers, instructing them where and how to catch. It wasn't until the ~1875 that catchers started being the ones giving pitchers signs, because of their less exposed position. Even then it didn't really take off and become normal for a bit after that.

The games are way too long, and they're getting longer. The biggest thing that most fans hate is the downtime during visits to the mount, either by catcher or coach. It's a total waste of time, and it disrespects the fans' time.

I love the little strategic details of the game well. I think this aspect can actually be improved if so much time wasn't wasted on arcane bs. Pitchers will still misthrow, and catchers will still miss catches. That won't change anyway.
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Uh... yes it does. More efficient, without any other tradeoffs, pretty much does always mean better. So far nobody has actually said why my proposal is bad, other than "tradition."

You are now mixing up two issues. Game length is not really driven by the relaying of signs, it is driven by the increasing specialization in pitching and the number of pitching changes that entails. It is also driven, especially in the postseason, by the length of the commercial breaks demanded by the broadcasters. So if you want to talk about "disrespecting the fans' time," then go after that instead of monkeying around with the fundamentals of the game. Umpires could also enforce the rule that the batter has to keep one foot in the batter's box between pitches. Some of them still go for little strolls. A pitch clock is also a possibility.

Also, catchers visit the mound for more than just signing issues. A good catcher knows when his pitcher needs one.

And yes, I did point out reasons other than "tradition" for not monkeying with this aspect if the game, though I think tradition is a pretty good argument all by itself in favor of not making wholesale changes to the game.
 
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It’s pretty common here to need a pass to be out of class for any reason, even the bathroom. My daughters school is actually using their IDs to get into the bathroom now. They need to be scanned so they know how long they’re in there for.
That is just ridiculous, what happens if she forgets her ID, she can't go to the bathroom the entire day? And who cares if she is in there the entire lunch period? Sorry, that is too much of a nanny state to me and I would be complaining loud and clear to the school about that one.
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Rules are rules.
Unless you are the NFL, then the rules about them having to stand for the national anthem with their football helmet at their side and their hand over their heart is ignored. And yes that is an actual rule with a set fine associated with it.
 
That's not true exactly. Early in baseball, there were no signs and the catcher just caught whatever the pitcher threw. Later it was actually pitchers that gave signs to catchers, instructing them where and how to catch. It wasn't until the ~1875 that catchers started being the ones giving pitchers signs, because of their less exposed position. Even then it didn't really take off and become normal for a bit after that.

The games are way too long, and they're getting longer. The biggest thing that most fans hate is the downtime during visits to the mount, either by catcher or coach. It's a total waste of time, and it disrespects the fans' time.

I love the little strategic details of the game well. I think this aspect can actually be improved if so much time wasn't wasted on arcane bs. Pitchers will still misthrow, and catchers will still miss catches. That won't change anyway.
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Uh... yes it does. More efficient, without any other tradeoffs, pretty much does always mean better. So far nobody has actually said why my proposal is bad, other than "tradition."
Guess we just disagree. Hope they don’t change the game. Too many changes already. Hate instant replay. Bad calls happen. I must admit I hate it less if it helps my team:D Like the way it has been played since I was 10 years old
 
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