If you look back at the first post in this thread, I predicted that Lowe would get $15 million a year, based on his performance this season. He's been consistent, effective, and an innings eater.
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If you look back at the first post in this thread, I predicted that Lowe would get $15 million a year, based on his performance this season. He's been consistent, effective, and an innings eater.
Who says they won't go after Manny? The Dodgers are still the only team to have made him an offer, and I've seen no change in their intentions. In fact it's more likely than ever that the Dodgers will sign him. Why they didn't make an effort to re-sign Lowe is not known, but it appears to have been politics of some sort. It seems Lowe made it clear from the start that he wanted to go back east.
They've got at least one opening in the rotation. Several names have been mentioned, including Randy Wolf and Randy Johnson.
What they aren't likely to do is bid against themselves. Boras needs to come back to the Dodgers and talk, which apparently hasn't happened yet. The Angels took themselves out of consideration a few days ago, the Mets now say they aren't interested. I suppose the Yankees could make an effort and once again tell the rest of baseball to go screw themselves, but that seems unlikely now. Other than that, who's left -- some small-market team?
Randy Johnson going to the Giants for 1 year.
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Good move. He'll make one heckuva fourth (third?) starter. Jonathan Sanchez can be the fifth starter or he can be traded for a bat. I am cautiously optimistic that Zito will bounce back and Cain will finally put it all together.
If Johnson has a good year the Giants can sign him for another season, otherwise one of the next wave of young pitching prospects should hopefully step up and be ready for 2010.
Still need another bat.
Are the Braves still 0-for the off season?
They seem to be whiffing on everything
Woof, Woof - Dawg
They seem to be whiffing on everything
Woof, Woof - Dawg
yup. we need to trade frenchy and kj for young major league ready prospects, like that sanchez guy in san fran.
"Frenchy" and "KJ"? I assume you mean Jeff Francoeur and Kelly Johnson?
I can tell you the Giants don't really need another outfielder. Would much rather see the Giants give Nate Schierholtz a legitimate shot at a job than trade for Francoeur -- they seem like pretty similar hitters, really.
Kelly Johnson looks solid but probably is just a minor upgrade at 2B from what the Giants already have available (Burriss and Frandsen). Don't see them biting on someone like that.
What the Giants really need is a good bat at a corner infield position. Get a good 3B and play Pablo Sandoval at first, or get a good 1B and play Sando at third.
Red Sox made play to Marlins for SS Ramirez
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Oh man. I would LOVE this. Any combination of 3 (or 4 if Buch isn't included) of Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, Bard, Lowrie plus a lower minors prospect.
The only players in the Sox system under 25 I'd consider untouchable would be Pedroia, Lester, Lars Anderson, and Justin Masterson.
If you keep Lowrie, put Hanley in CF. If you trade Lowrie, then Hanley is your new SS and you find a stopgap CF until Kalish or Reddick are ready in a year or two.
Of course, there's probably a 1% chance of this ever happening, but just the fact that they even discussed this is pretty exciting.
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Oh man. I would LOVE this. Any combination of 3 (or 4 if Buch isn't included) of Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, Bard, Lowrie plus a lower minors prospect.
The only players in the Sox system under 25 I'd consider untouchable would be Pedroia, Lester, Lars Anderson, and Justin Masterson.
If you keep Lowrie, put Hanley in CF. If you trade Lowrie, then Hanley is your new SS and you find a stopgap CF until Kalish or Reddick are ready in a year or two.
Of course, there's probably a 1% chance of this ever happening, but just the fact that they even discussed this is pretty exciting.
Yeah, the Red Sox knew what they were trading away. Remember what they got back: their staff ace (and 2007 ALCS MVP) and their 2007 World Series MVP.
Obviously, but not because the Red Sox traded him away and now want him back. They'd be asking for a lot because he's possibly the most valuable player in baseball as far as age, cost, and production go.
I'd say that Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bard, and Lowrie is a lot to give up for the Sox, but it's totally worth it for Hanley.
And now, we return to "As the Manny Turns..."
The Dodgers say they are now talking to Adam Dunn and Bobby Abreu. I hope to hell this is just a ploy to get Boras to return a phone call.
The Dodgers say they are now talking to Adam Dunn and Bobby Abreu. I hope to hell this is just a ploy to get Boras to return a phone call.
If they wanted somebody cheaper they'd have already signed somebody cheaper. For that matter they've already got somebody cheaper -- Juan Pierre could start in left, and they could hang onto Andruw "wiffer" Jones as a defensive substitute and get an extra bonus if he finds his bat again. Either way that's a better and cheaper deal than signing Dunn or Abreu.
So maybe the ploy worked. Boras actually called Colletti.
http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/n...ent_id=3730430&vkey=news_la&fext=.jsp&c_id=la
Prediction: Manny gets an offer for three years for $70 million.
http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/n...ent_id=3730430&vkey=news_la&fext=.jsp&c_id=la
Prediction: Manny gets an offer for three years for $70 million.
At least the Dodgers (or anyone) wouldn't lose any draft picks by signing Abreu. He's a Type A free agent, and yet Cashman didn't offer arbitration. DUH! 
And some people wonder why the Yankees have a crappy farm system.
And some people wonder why the Yankees have a crappy farm system.
At least the Dodgers (or anyone) wouldn't lose any draft picks by signing Abreu. He's a Type A free agent, and yet Cashman didn't offer arbitration. DUH!
I can't claim to comprehend this system well enough to understand why some free agents are offered arbitration and others are not. I believe there's some sort of limit.
The Yankees have a great farm system -- it's called the rest of Major League Baseball.
Proctor won't be missed. If the Mets can land Lowe for $12 million/year, they've gotten themselves a bargain. Weren't the Yankees thought to have offered him $15 million? And Barry? That man lives in an alternate universe.
Meanwhile, the latest Manny rumor has the Giants interested. I can't imagine that the Giants will offer him as lucrative a deal as he's already been offered by the Dodgers. Possibly the Giants are getting into this to drive up his cost to the Dodgers. Also in the works but still unconfirmed officially is a buyout of Andruw Jones' contract. It looks like the Dodgers will have to eat $10 million if someone else signs him before Spring Training, but only $400,000 if he's released. That's got to be unprecedented. Either way, it frees up more salary money.
Meanwhile, the latest Manny rumor has the Giants interested. I can't imagine that the Giants will offer him as lucrative a deal as he's already been offered by the Dodgers. Possibly the Giants are getting into this to drive up his cost to the Dodgers. Also in the works but still unconfirmed officially is a buyout of Andruw Jones' contract. It looks like the Dodgers will have to eat $10 million if someone else signs him before Spring Training, but only $400,000 if he's released. That's got to be unprecedented. Either way, it frees up more salary money.
Do you have any outfielders who aren't a liability in the field? Damon and Matsui probably are. Nady is probably league average.