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Mobile Flash Fail: Weak Android Player Proves Jobs Right

It's still nice to have a choice on the ability to run Flash or completely ignore it though, right?

*shrug* World keeps on spinnin'...:cool:
 
studio¹³¹ said:
bob jobs knob much?
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Why are some people so quick to call someone a Jobs Automaton when someone has a disparaging opinion on mobile Flash?

Have you even tried Flash or Frash on your iDevice? I have and it was removed as soon as my browser crashed. The most you can do is play some games and watch Ads. Flash, in its present form, is just no worth the headache.

But hey, if some developer somehow gets it to a point where I can use HULU in Mobile Safari, I'd be on that like a dog in heat. But now, no thank you.
 
phobic99 said:
It's still nice to have a choice on the ability to run Flash or completely ignore it though, right?

*shrug* World keeps on spinnin'...:cool:
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yes but theres the bigger picture.

As far as professionalism, it doesnt fit into the bigger sales pitch which is that everything just works for nerds as well as people who use it as a personal communication tool and have busy lives and are not into gadgets.

there are no crappy elements of any kind built into the ecosystem and that is part of the appeal/obsession which ultimately wins over the consumers on a grand scale of reputation and expectation.
 
Bobby Corwen said:
yes but theres the bigger picture.

As far as professionalism, it doesnt fit into the bigger sales pitch which is that everything just works for nerds as well as people who use it as a personal communication tool and have busy lives and are not into gadgets.

there are no crappy elements of any kind built into the ecosystem and that is part of the appeal/obsession which ultimately wins over the consumers on a grand scale of reputation and expectation.
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No crappy elements? Maybe you're using some other version of os4.0 than I and several others are using. I'm not saying it's bad or that it's not better than the rest. But to say it's devoid of crap is - well - crap.

ETA: The whole "It Just Works" notion is also crap and marketing which fails on every level. It's like Delta's old slogan "We get you there". Do other airlines not get you places? And opposed to what?

It Just Works is a "slogan" - and not accurate. Things might be semi-intuitive - but Apple products do require a learning curve just like any/every other piece of technology.
 
Used flash to watch some episodes of South Park during a long boring night at work on southparkstudios.com. Worked flawlessly. It's not perfect but I'm happy I have the option (I'm free to uninstall it or use it only when I want it).
 
The only thing I want in Flash is the video playing elements. I could care less about the interactive environments.

The fact that I'm missing out on so much video content on the iPhone is upsetting.
 
Flash is too choppy and makes safari unstable BUT...

The choice should be yours if you want to use that feature or not. On the other hand apple have every right to not include that in there is so there is many sides of the argument to consider.
 
rjohnstone said:
That sounds more like a stream issue, not Flash itself.
Typical results of a weak signal.
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I tried a few sites on a Verizon phone that had 5 bars. I'm not saying I dislike Android phones by the way--they are great--I'm just saying it appeared as if flash was not working well on this device.

This was one phone I tried though, so maybe there is another one that plays it better. Anyone got an EVO that plays flash smoothly?
 
barkomatic said:
I tried a few sites on a Verizon phone that had 5 bars. I'm not saying I dislike Android phones by the way--they are great--I'm just saying it appeared as if flash was not working well on this device.

This was one phone I tried though, so maybe there is another one that plays it better. Anyone got an EVO that plays flash smoothly?
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by default those phones have Flash lite, which is trash compared to the 10.x build
 
Well, HTML5 hasn't replaced Flash yet, so give us the ability to turn it off or something. Flash worked fine on my Nexus One when I had it.
 
anonymous guy said:
The only thing I want in Flash is the video playing elements. I could care less about the interactive environments.

The fact that I'm missing out on so much video content on the iPhone is upsetting.
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This exactly it, and if it wasn't for politics, it would, could and should be posible to have flash video. Duh since that's what YouTube is.

It's annoying the videos are all flash and that flash has to include everything that has to do with it and all the extras besides videos.

There should be a split compatibility at least where you can watch flash video and not play games and flash site layouts and the browser should know.
 
samcraig said:
No crappy elements? Maybe you're using some other version of os4.0 than I and several others are using. I'm not saying it's bad or that it's not better than the rest. But to say it's devoid of crap is - well - crap.

ETA: The whole "It Just Works" notion is also crap and marketing which fails on every level. It's like Delta's old slogan "We get you there". Do other airlines not get you places? And opposed to what?

It Just Works is a "slogan" - and not accurate.
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Or, maybe, it's not intended to imply that there are no bugs.

Things might be semi-intuitive - but Apple products do require a learning curve just like any/every other piece of technology.
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:rolleyes: The implication is not that Apple products do not require a learning curve. Just that they are more intuitive than most of the alternatives.
 
Maybe.

Fact is:
Steve Jobs keeps Flash from his customers because he knows better than his customers and he loves his customers (both).

There is definitely no other reason.
If you don't trust me - at least trust Steve Jobs.

And stop thinking for god's sake! Or at least:

think different!
 
That's all so great but I still would want the ability to choose if I want flash or not. Jobs was right but until HTML5 becomes the standard and most sites use it then it flash will be needed and this argument will continue.
 
While HTML5 should be the standard for all web video, Flash is and always will still be needed because of how powerful ActionScript is.
 
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