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DailyTech.com pinpoints the release of the upcoming mobile Penryn CPUs on January 6, 2008.

The upcoming mobile Penryn CPUs have been previously summarized and are expected to provide new processors that Apple could use in an upcoming MacBook Pro update.

Macworld San Francisco starts on January 14th, with a Keynote speech to be given by Steve Jobs on January 15th.

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'Tis the season to wait to purchase your mbp's ;) :) :D
 
Why would I want a mobile Penryn without Montevina? The January Penryns will almost certainly ship with Santa Rosa unless Intel is way, way ahead of their announced schedule.

Well, if your laptop is a G4 667 like mine (doesnt meet basic requirements for most graphic applications or even games) then its about time to upgrade.

Why not go ahead and get santa rose.
-LED screen
- battery

The LEDS have issues with yellowish tinting, banding and flickering when you take it off of the brightest setting. I dont really plan on getting one of those.
Maybe next generation will see a better LED?

The battery issues that were 'fixed' in Oct/Nov, maybe they will be right out of the box with the new ones. Althought my battery on the G4 667 did the same thing as what was reported as only a problem with the macbooks....which was that I get 2 seconds of battery life when it says its all the way full.

Maybe the issue causing it is people like me that almost never use the battery. Perhaps you have to (required) to drain it and refill it once a month or it goes all plutty on you. But that doesnt explain it for the macbooks. Point is, flexibility should be there, not some regular hassle maintenance of draining and refilling batteries.

So maybe the new updates will be a nice one to get after all these years. ;)
I agree I would love to wait for the 2nd release of Penryns. - as I always wanted something with 3Ghz in it.
- that will finally be my powerbook G5! :)

Peace

dAlen
 
Mac World 2008

Here is the line up for Mac World 2008:

- 4th quarter wrap up.
- iPhone/Touch SDK.
- iPhone/Touch Software Updates.
- Updated MacBooks & MacBook Pros.
- Updated Mac Pro.
- New Cinema Displays.
- Leopard 10.5.2
- One More Thing, iTunes Movie Rentals & HD + Apple TV Update (Hardware &
Software)
- Just One more thing, New Sub-Notebook.
 
Here is the line up for Mac World 2008:

- 4th quarter wrap up.
- iPhone/Touch SDK.
- iPhone/Touch Software Updates.
- Updated MacBooks & MacBook Pros.
- Updated Mac Pro.
- New Cinema Displays.
- Leopard 10.5.2
- One More Thing, iTunes Movie Rentals & HD + Apple TV Update (Hardware &
Software)
- Just One more thing, New Sub-Notebook.

Spot on. I would add that Xserves will get a 30 second mention after the MPs and I would warn ppl not to get their hopes up about the latter, just cos we've burned so many times before that I'm starting to think that those Mini EOL'd rumours were really about the Mac Pro...
 
interesting.. though i won't cancel my mbp 17" 2,4Ghz/4GB/250GB/hires -order i placed two days ago just because of penryn. i need a new machine THIS year and i do not expect the new mbp's to have hires LED-screens, which would be the only reason to cancel..
 
I really don't see why some of you are getting your hopes up about seeing updated MBP's at mac world. They might be announced, yes, but they wont be available until later. Don't expect to recieve them in january. The chips are going to become available on Jan 6th, so Apple is gonna need some time to put all those chips into the MBP's.
 
less than half that...

Here is the line up for Mac World 2008:

- 4th quarter wrap up.
- iPhone/Touch SDK.
- iPhone/Touch Software Updates.
- Updated MacBooks & MacBook Pros.
- Updated Mac Pro.
- New Cinema Displays.
- Leopard 10.5.2
- One More Thing, iTunes Movie Rentals & HD + Apple TV Update (Hardware &
Software)
- Just One more thing, New Sub-Notebook.

The "4th quarter wrapup" will be 45 minutes, talking about the Iphone sales, the international Iphones, the 10.5 sales,...

10.5.2? Do you think that The Steve will stand up and describe which 10.5 bugs are being fixed in the next update?

No new MacBooks - they were recently updated.

Probably Penryn-based MBPs, but perhaps not if the chip ramp up is slow. (But it will be hard to ignore, since Intel and the other vendors will have announced Penryn laptops 10 days before.)

Mac Pro - probably. Displays - the current line is way behind the competition, and the design is old - so possibly. (For Apple, it's probably more important to refresh the design than the technology - form over function.)

Xserve - very unlikely. Apple is a gadget company - you expect them to update a server when they're leaving their only tower to languish? The Xserve will stay as it is until Intel tells Apple that Woodcrests are EOL, then Apple will either kill the Xserve or drop in a newer socket-compatible CPU if that's possible.

No sub-notebook - but perhaps a new 13" MBP as a replacement for the 12" PowerBook.


[MBPs] won't be available until later. Don't expect to recieve them in january. The chips are going to become available on Jan 6th, so Apple is gonna need some time to put all those chips into the MBP's.

Apple already has Mobile Penryn samples, so there isn't a problem with engineering the new MBP - it's already running in Apple's design labs.

Usually, Intel ships production chips in volume to the vendors *before* the announcement, so that the vendors will have a few weeks to assemble systems and have them ready for the announcement day.

This didn't happen just right with the the Xeon Penryns - the volume production line wasn't running at high volume before the announcement. Vendors had a few systems at announcement, but they're just now starting to fill the orders.

Whether the same slow ramp will happen with the mobile Penryn isn't yet known - but it wouldn't be a good idea to depend on getting a new MBP right after the keynote. Be pleasantly surprised if you can get one, but don't depend on it.

We'll know more before the keynote - if HP/Lenovo/Dell are selling Penryn laptops with 3 day delivery times the week before MWSF, then the odds are that The Steve will announce and say "available now".
 
This didn't happen just right with the the Xeon Penryns - the volume production line wasn't running at high volume before the announcement. Vendors had a few systems at announcement, but they're just now starting to fill the orders.

Whether the same slow ramp will happen with the mobile Penryn isn't yet known - but it wouldn't be a good idea to depend on getting a new MBP right after the keynote. Be pleasantly surprised if you can get one, but don't depend on it.

We'll know more before the keynote - if HP/Lenovo/Dell are selling Penryn laptops with 3 day delivery times the week before MWSF, then the odds are that The Steve will announce and say "available now".

True, but look how long it took for people to get their 2.6Ghz MBP's, almost a month after it was announced, and these were chips that have been out for a while. It's possible that people might get their Penryn MBP's at the end of Jan, but like you said, I wouldn't depend on it. I wish I could have waited to get mine then, my 2.6 will be here monday, but I have to have it for when the semester startes back in early Jan.
 
Penryn doesn't even really seem all that impressive, a bit less power consumption, a bit cooler, but supposedly not much more powerful at least real world. I'm just hoping the prices of the current macbooks take a dive so I can buy one sooner.

Its very impressive to me
 
Benchmarks

Penryn doesn't even really seem all that impressive, a bit less power consumption, a bit cooler, but supposedly not much more powerful at least real world.

'Real World' performance will be greatly enhanced once OS X is optimized to take full advantage of the Penryns.
 
Without Montevina are these chips even worth it? They'll obviously be chocked by SR and therefore not that much faster than current gen
 
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