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I thought you mentioned two companies within France. My bad. Yups companies in Switzerland doesn't have to go along with this EU decision, true.
Bouyges is French, but they don't need to provide free roaming outside the EEA.
 
I wasn't getting emotional, just pointing it out in what was a rather lighthearted manner..

Not sure if you want me to disagree with that? Although we are more united with Scotland than we were 2 weeks ago.
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I'm referring to this latest election. The conservatives hoped for a sweeping victory and it backfired big time. If you look at the actual results then it's clear that The United Kingdom is very much dived on this whole EU issue. The once so self convinced Theresa May now needs talk with Northern Ireland’s Democratic Unionist party to keep her job... The once tough sounding silly oneliners from May towards the EU will probably be exchanged for a more softer approach (which is good new by the way).
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Bouyges is French, but they don't need to provide free roaming outside the EEA.

That contradicts with there EU ruling then.

See: http://www.journaldugeek.com/2017/0...i-mais-la-data-plafonnee-a-25-gomois-maximum/ (French)

It states that Bouyges will also end roaming cost but on a later date. But perhaps with some exception concerning typeof data transmitted using the internet.

Anyway, free roaming will be here for most providers, including France. And it will be just a matter of time when the cost will become even lower when the years passing by.
 
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That’s why I always go for a year contract (SIM only) :)


Same here ;) I don't mind it that much tough, 10GB is way more then enough for me. I'm just very glad that I can simply call my family when heading to Paris or Berlin which I do quite frequently. And it's great to be able to read my e-mails and find the directions without having to worry about the prize.
 
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Roaming charges in general are an outdated legacy thing that shouldn't exist anymore.

It wasn't even so much that you had to pay, it's that the amounts involved were absolutely ridiculous and not of this planet. Like several DOLLARS per megabyte, which actually costs a tiny fraction of a penny to actually transmit.

Roaming should be abolished worldwide, or at least be replaced with fees that make sense in today's world. It shouldn't be possible to rack up thousands of dollars in fees by watching one episode of a TV show on Netflix.
 
Roaming charges in general are an outdated legacy thing that shouldn't exist anymore.

It wasn't even so much that you had to pay, it's that the amounts involved were absolutely ridiculous and not of this planet. Like several DOLLARS per megabyte, which actually costs a tiny fraction of a penny to actually transmit.

Roaming should be abolished worldwide, or at least be replaced with fees that make sense in today's world. It shouldn't be possible to rack up thousands of dollars in fees by watching one episode of a TV show on Netflix.


hear! hear!
 
Same here ;) I don't mind it that much tough, 10GB is way more then enough for me. I'm just very glad that I can simply call my family when heading to Paris or Berlin which I do quite frequently. And it's great to be able to read my e-mails and find the directions without having to worry about the prize.

Oh I don't need 50GB at all, was quite content with my 20GB, but I'm not going to complain either if they increase it without extra costs. I always stick with KPN because of KPN Compleet. Plus in my neck of the woods (small village in Zuid-Limburg), it's either KPN or Vodafone, the rest is rather useless.
 
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Oh I don't need 50GB at all, was quite content with my 20GB, but I'm not going to complain either if they increase it without extra costs. I always stick with KPN because of KPN Compleet. Plus in my neck of the woods (small village in Zuid-Limburg), it's either KPN or Vodafone, the rest is rather useless.


I've good experience with T-Mobile tough... But 50gb? Then you pay a godsvermogen (translated, quite a lot, even in religious context ^^ )

https://www.kpn.com/mobiel/sim-only/zorgeloos-standaard/2-jaar
 
Errm, the European Parliament which passes the laws is elected. Plus there isn't a single law on the UK Statute book that hasn't been passed by our Parliament.

And that £350m, haven't we all already realised that was just a massive con and it doesn't really exist? It certainly isn't going to be winging its way to the NHS as promised by the Brexit Battle Bus
When it comes to the EU, isn't it equivalent to how the United States operates at a federal level?
 
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To be fair, roaming does incur extra costs and the consumer who uses a service that costs more to provide should pay for those costs. The scam is in the exaggerated prices that consumers had to pay until recently.

Edit: Now prices will go up and everybody will have to pay more, regardless of whether they use this extra service or not. Which is probably why the politicians agreed on this one, they get everybody to subsidise their higher-than-average roaming consumption, these politicians travel a lot.

Really? So why are tarrifs dropping lower than ever? I just got a 12GB 4G contract with unlimited minutes and texts from O2 for £18/m (plus quite a bit of cash back which makes it more like £14), the telecoms companies have known this is coming for years. I've been with O2 for something like 8 years and I'm paying less than ever for more than ever. Three have offered essentially free roaming across not just the EU but the USA and many other places for free for years. This will barely affect costs. Why? Because A, the amount companies can charge other companies is strictly capped and B, competition.

Prices are going to continue going down, because thankfully we have a competitive telecoms industry unlike our friends across the pond.

I'm a Brexit supporter, despite the mess that's been made by our government. There's no reason free roaming won't continue. Norway, Switzerland, Iceland are included in this and they aren't in the EU. Again when consumers get used to this and say EE and O2 bring back roaming charges after brexit, all someone like Three needs to do is keep it and watching customers flock to them.
 
I wouldn’t call it a ‘godsvermogen’, I pay €33 / month. That includes the discounts for KPN Compleet and another €5 discount but I forgot why I get that lol


Fair enough, on the website it said 99euro''s, but then again, t-mobile also is stating 35 euro's but in reality I pay 26 euro's a month for unlimited data and 10 gig of data use a month in the EU. Which works for me...

Ah well, you know, in five to ten years time from now people will talk about 5G which will put everything upside down once again.4K content videostreaming will be easy(with the right codec)...

Most of my family are using iPhones, I also recommend facetime audio calling instead of regular calls, iOS 11 will make FaceTime Audio calling standard by the way.
 
I'm a Brexit supporter, despite the mess that's been made by our government. There's no reason free roaming won't continue. Norway, Switzerland, Iceland are included in this and they aren't in the EU. Again when consumers get used to this and say EE and O2 bring back roaming charges after brexit, all someone like Three needs to do is keep it and watching customers flock to them.
The Swiss don't get free EEA roaming.

Norway and Iceland are in the EEA. Do you like it? Good.
 
Fair enough, on the website it said 99euro''s, but then again, t-mobile also is stating 35 euro's but in reality I pay 26 euro's a month for unlimited data and 10 gig of data use a month in the EU. Which works for me...

Ah well, you know, in five to ten years time from now people will talk about 5G which will put everything upside down once again.4K content videostreaming will be easy(with the right codec)...

Most of my family are using iPhones, I also recommend facetime audio calling instead of regular calls, iOS 11 will make FaceTime Audio calling standard by the way.

I have the 25GB one but because of KPN Compleet they double your data plus you get a discount ;). They increased the 10GB (which was 20GB for me) to 25GB from June 1st, without extra fees.
 
I'm a Brexit supporter, despite the mess that's been made by our government. There's no reason free roaming won't continue. Norway, Switzerland, Iceland are included in this and they aren't in the EU. Again when consumers get used to this and say EE and O2 bring back roaming charges after brexit, all someone like Three needs to do is keep it and watching customers flock to them.

Roaming cost in Switzerland are quite expensive and all tough you have a point that at some point roaming cost disappear entirely Telecom companies within the UK will need to pay more after the Brexit, for almost 100% certainty, to enable their services operate within the EU. And these extra cost will probably end up in more expensive contracts... But time will tell..

But those are not the only disadvantages England will have to face after the Brexit is done. I admire your hopes, but the reality looks a lot more grim for England. Many companies already decided to go to Frankfurt or to Paris and some even to Amsterdam in the Netherlands. London might loose their financial capital of the world status. And many (and I do mean a lot) expats from England living in Amsterdam for years now are asking if they can get the Dutch passport. A friend of mine works at the department dealing with that and he stated that the amount of British people asking for the Dutch nationality has increased with enormous numbers.

I think the problem with many of the brexiteer voters is that they still think that England is a leading world power country while in fact it lost that status decades ago. These days it's all about globalization, consolidation is something of the past.
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I have the 25GB one but because of KPN Compleet they double your data plus you get a discount ;). They increased the 10GB (which was 20GB for me) to 25GB from June 1st, without extra fees.


Great deal! can't say otherwise ! Well, I'll decide which contract I'll take at which company in 2018 when my yearly contract ends.
 
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Well, it count's for all the EU members, including France. So Bouygues will have to change their plans.

Actually, Bouygues did exactly the opposite. They used to have Switzerland in their "European" call/text/data packages before the roaming surcharges were stopped, but then they just emailed their respective customers saying that free Swiss roaming will stop in early July, can't recall the exact date.
 
Actually, Bouygues did exactly the opposite. They used to have Switzerland in their "European" call/text/data packages before the roaming surcharges were stopped, but then they just emailed their respective customers saying that free Swiss roaming will stop in early July, can't recall the exact date.


I think they will have a problem soon enough then. If other telecom companies do offer free roaming cost and one doesn't, well.... the market will decide what will become of that company ;) Their loss..
 
Really, more and more U.S. companies are starting to include roaming in many countries, it would be nice if everyone just played well together and said we'll let you use our towers if you let us use yours. Then we could eliminate these excessive costs.
 
Really, more and more U.S. companies are starting to include roaming in many countries, it would be nice if everyone just played well together and said we'll let you use our towers if you let us use yours. Then we could eliminate these excessive costs.

That's what domestic providers do (did?) for a while.

Sprint phones could roam on Verizon, and vice versa.

I believe T-Mobile phones used to roam on AT&T, but I don't know if that's still possible as my girlfriend used to be on T-Mobile and she would see "No Service" in areas where I had an AT&T signal.

It's a little more complicated internationally, but we all use the same technologies, more or less, so it shouldn't be THAT hard.
 
But those are not the only disadvantages England will have to face after the Brexit is done. I admire your hopes, but the reality looks a lot more grim for England. Many companies already decided to go to Frankfurt or to Paris and some even to Amsterdam in the Netherlands. London might loose their financial capital of the world status. And many (and I do mean a lot) expats from England living in Amsterdam for years now are asking if they can get the Dutch passport. A friend of mine works at the department dealing with that and he stated that the amount of British people asking for the Dutch nationality has increased with enormous numbers.

44 years in the EU and you still cannot get the name of our country right. :)

As for the rest of your Cassandra warning, I think you are overstating the problems, at least in the short term. The UK is not a huge exporting nation. Certainly not to the extent that Germany is reliant upon, for example. While some smaller exporting companies or departments thereof might be considering uprooting themselves and setting up a mainland European base, most UK trade is internal and our membership of the EU did not prevent other jobs being outsourced to cheaper E Europe bases or even further afield, either. That cost cutting rationalisation has been going on already. It is still cheaper to operate in the UK than in much of the EU.

London is in no real danger of losing its crown as a key financial centre. That expertise was built up over centuries and very little of it is reliant upon EU oversight - the so called passporting part of financial services. Even the loss of the latter isn't yet clear as moving it to rEU may still turn out to be more expensive than keeping it in London post-Brexit. There are certainly arguments over the cost of any such potential move and the economic climate in the EU is not conducive to wasting huge amounts of money given the financial crises looming with certain of its member states.
 
It seems this is only for contracts, not pre-paid. So tourists who buy a local SIM card are still subject to roaming fees. Sad.
 
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