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Mobile Roaming Charges Abolished in the EU
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Yeah I felt EE £4 a day was fairly reasonable so paid it for my last visit to the EU
Who included this? I checked with my network (Salt) and there's no mention of it.
As I said before, CH is in EFTA, not EEA. It is not covered by the new regulation.
Some European carriers include it in their plans as well as some other areas nevertheless.
5€/ month. Those 5€ were added later to the current plans (New: Roaming, HotSpot-Flat + later
StreamON [Audio or Audio/Video and your GBs are not affected].
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I know, I was wondering if "one more" knew more about some Swiss operator voluntarily doing this. I doubt there's one, but who knows.
I don't know whether you're aware of this, but Switzerland is NOT an EU member state. I wish it were, but hey, 90% of our population apparently thinks we're better off without. So yeah, free roaming is not coming to Swiss customers, as in ever. Roaming is currently the big differentiator between the individual subscription tiers, so this won't be happening until hell freezes over. I could see Swisscom introduce it for their top tier subscriptions, but those cost 180 Fr. / $ per month.
Us Americans would hate such an outcome, we hate regulations that help commoners, only if it lines the pockets of politicians, corporations and creates jobs that don't exist, then it suddenly becomes acceptable.
Oh I know, I live 15 minutes from Germany and 10 from Belgium, I find myself often in three countries on the same day. This couldn't come fast enough for me
You are a fool if you think a company in business for profit will not get their profit one way or another.
Next steps if the EU gets even crazier:
1. For profit companies raise rates to cover costs and make required profits.
2. EU mandates rates to appease citizens.
3. Company finds new ways to charge customers (via separate fees or new taxes via gov't subsidy for staying in business with a sweetheart deal); or they go bankrupt/take their business elsewhere.
4.Government is forced to nationalize communication services (and does so much less efficiently than private sector, costing you more).
5. Increase in taxes to cover the cost.
Enjoy!
Next steps if the EU gets even crazier:
1. For profit companies raise rates to cover costs and make required profits.
2. EU mandates rates to appease citizens.
3. Company finds new ways to charge customers (via separate fees or new taxes via gov't subsidy for staying in business with a sweetheart deal); or they go bankrupt/take their business elsewhere.
4.Government is forced to nationalize communication services (and does so much less efficiently than private sector, costing you more).
5. Increase in taxes to cover the cost.
Enjoy!
Haha says the guys from the country where many people still have to use dialup internet...
Given the prices we pay for mobile plans in the US compared to Europe, I wish we had some of those "crazy" EU regulators.
I just checked and the prepaid SIM I use when traveling to Europe (from "Congstar", a subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom) supports "roam like home" in the EU without any additional fees or volume limitations. This is great, since a single SIM will now cover most of my travel needs. Hope Britain will continue to be part of this though.
I just checked and the prepaid SIM I use when traveling to Europe (from "Congstar", a subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom) supports "roam like home" in the EU without any additional fees or volume limitations. This is great, since a single SIM will now cover most of my travel needs.
Hope Britain will continue to be part of this though.
You've forgotten one. Company raises prices either openly or via stealth, enlarged customer base of citizens refuse to buy product. Company goes bust. Or reevaluates.
I was talking about the French operators and Salt is Swiss. Off all the French ones currently only Orange includes Switzerland.
Yes, and understand this is a two way street. Generally all of these companies have the same overhead and thus will come to the same conclusion of raising rates and do it at the same time. I would imagine they are all pretty competitive for the most part now, right? That will continue...just at higher rates.
Either that, or companies will all move to the country with the lowest tax rate to help cover the decrease in profit and remain competitive.
It is key to understand these companies want to look competitive. They want to steal all the customers from their competitors so they go out of business. They don't invent their prices out of thin air, as they have costs to cover, but also a Board of Directors to report to.
The EU dropping roaming charges does not apply to the Swiss operators, as far as I understand, as they are not in the EU.
Agree absolutely. There's a lot of spin involved from the companies and I think state intervention may be required, not to actually do anything but to threaten to investigate possible price fixing and restrictive practices
It's been like this since march in Norway. I can use all my data if I wish. Have already tryed it out. Works like a charm. No more sms with prices, but: have a nice trip and use your phone as if you're home!
Prices have not gone up on the mobile segment. At least not from my carrier. They have raised prices from landlines. But that doesn't bother me. When calling in Norway I use my cellphone, and calling abroad I use Skype. Or messenger. Or whatsapp...
Prices have not gone up on the mobile segment. At least not from my carrier. They have raised prices from landlines. But that doesn't bother me. When calling in Norway I use my cellphone, and calling abroad I use Skype. Or messenger. Or whatsapp...
There's some confusion here - Orange (the brand) no longer exists in Switzerland. The company formerly known as Orange Switzerland is now Salt. As far as I know they didn't want to pay the franchise fees to Orange anymore. They're my current network, by the way.
You personally can refuse to buy the product (although I doubt it), the customer base won't. They'll pay up. The service is simply too necessary.
What will simply happen here is that the roaming costs will be distributed into the general costs. Probably not directly - prices are sticky - but they will eventually. Think of it longer term: packages won't come down in price as quickly as they do and operators won't be as quick to include more stuff (minutes, data).
The bottom line will be that non-roamers will forcibly subsidise roamers.
Long term equilibrium has to be the same. Companies do not simply absorb this kind of cost from their profit margins. And they shouldn't - it's a bad thing, since lower profitability means investment and competition starts happening elsewhere.
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I don't know, I don't believe so. It's got nothing to do with Orange. Anyway is ownership relevant?