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I like the change because it matches my desktop habits. I'm always tapping the text field--not the magnify icon--to do a search, and then I have to tap again to actually get a search. Now, with two fields, my habits will be correct!

Don't worry, I doubt this change actually prevented them from putting hours into other features. In landscape-mode Safari has always been this way.
 
If Apple developed software the way you're asking them to, it would be closer to free of major bugs, but ugly, hard to use, and full of small bugs.

The current browser isn't ugly or hard to use...so what are you getting at? The guy that coded this may not be on the iPhone OS dev team so let's take copy & paste, and any other additional functionality out of the picture. S/He certainly is on the mobile safari team, so get the damn thing to stop crashing!!!
 
So Apple can't work on any other new feature, if C&P is not implemented? They should have a legion of engineers twiddling their thumbs while the engineers responsible for C&P work on that particular feature?

And why is everyone whining about C&P? Why aren't you whining about opening links in new tabs in the background? Unlike C&P, that's actually easy to implement in the UI.

It's not a new feature, it's an interface adjustment. If this was the way they implemented Google Search from the beginning this thread wouldn't be here. C&P isn't the point, the problem is were looking at interface adjustments that don't matter if the browser reverts to the home screen every ten minutes.
 
Customizable

What they need to do is just create another preference in Safari and you can have it the current way or you can have it this way. Then one can choose.
 
A decent theory. Was it necessary to assume that we'd all be confused by that, though? :D

I only said that, so if somebody(must people, even me) just scan over it and go " oh that's the dumbest thing I've heard" without reading the whole thing. And I read a post that somebody couldn't see the refresh button on the new safari.

I think it's a big possiblity that apple is adding copy&paste. And apple always does everything in step, so they get it perfect( or atleast as good as it's going to get at that point). So if they are just changing the look this time it could be prep for something bigger.

I don't know, maybe some else can add to this theory. Any ideas?
 
actually I think this would be better, i think the idea apple has is that it will require least amount of touches to get to the Google search box. it may be crammed together but lets be real what difference will it make?
you type on the keyboard the address bar isn't actually needed for anything except for bringing up the keypad and bringing up the magnifying glass to edit text.

this will actually simplify the process of accessing the ggogle search bok and make no change to the address bar
 
I don't get why people don't think this is better. Now with one tap you can select either address or search. I'm assuming if you hit the address area the address field expands search field shrinks and vice-versa. (See landscape mode browsing.)

Before, if you wanted to search you tapped the address bar and then tapped again to move the cursor to the google field. I have actually thought to myself in the past that this was inefficient.

but with one tap you can search now by choosing the "spotlight-esque" icon on the left hand side of the address bar... and it looks cleaner.
 
The current browser isn't ugly or hard to use...so what are you getting at?

Well yeah, they don't develop software the way people here seem to want them to.

In this particular case, I agree with earlier posters that this is most likely a way to address the fact that many iPhone users were unaware of the ability to tap the search icon to get to the field in less taps. Given the number of people in this thread alone who didn't know about it, it seems like an improvement, although a rather small one.
 
agreed but

I guess I'm the only one who likes this. One less tap to search.

I agree but this is apples lame attmept to hide the fact that everything is laggy by cutting steps to get to the end result. Safari crashes so much they better fix it and they typing lags on it.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5F136 Safari/525.20)

I hope that isn't the only change in Safari, if so that would make any sense.
 
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tom5304 said:
I'm hoping 2.2 brings more stability to Safari. Right now Safari crashes on certain web sites within minutes, making my iPhone essentially useless for accessing these web sites.

I completely agree with you. Safari even crashes on sites that are usually friendly.
 
all i want's only
fix app crash(speciallly safari)
safari with flash plug-in!
copy and paste
IM push!
 
crashing?

Interesting. What I'm getting from this thread, other than a lot of people critiquing the functionality of something based on a picture (very odd), is that Safari crashes for people, and other people aren't disagreeing.

I use Safari on the iPhone a copious amount and it crashes so infrequently as to be called never.

I'd suggest that those who have crashing browsers take their units in to get replaced, as this is really the only way Apple will open their eyes as to this issue.
 
Interesting. What I'm getting from this thread, other than a lot of people critiquing the functionality of something based on a picture (very odd), is that Safari crashes for people, and other people aren't disagreeing.

I use Safari on the iPhone a copious amount and it crashes so infrequently as to be called never.

I'd suggest that those who have crashing browsers take their units in to get replaced, as this is really the only way Apple will open their eyes as to this issue.

How much is a copious amount.
I use safari about 5 hours a day, and it will crash a couple of times a day on certain sites. If you mean 5 hours per day then I will definitely look into going to the Apple store regarding this issue.
 
that was exactly my thought when I first saw it
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How much is a copious amount.
I use safari about 5 hours a day, and it will crash a couple of times a day on certain sites. If you mean 5 hours per day then I will definitely look into going to the Apple store regarding this issue.

Copious means a lot. In future if you don't know what a word means in Safari, right click it and select 'Look up in dictionary'.

I'm pretty sure that the amount that Safari crashes just depends on which websites you visit, and other processes are also going on on your iPhone at the same time. Replacing your iPhone will make no difference.
 
please tell me you are being sarcastic about the number of taps being reduced! :rolleyes:

And to be honest, I hope that they never let the horizontal keyboard leave safari because it would annoy me. I can type much faster with the vertical keyboard because I don't have to move my fingers as far.

I am completely serious about the taps. How is it bad to cut the number of taps necessary in half?

And good for you. I type in portrait mode too but most Americans are fat and that has been one of the biggest complaints about the iPhone. It wouldn't affect you at all if they added landscape, but it would help millions of fat fingered people out there!
 
I am completely serious about the taps. How is it bad to cut the number of taps necessary in half?
My point was that it does not change the number of taps at all. Searching Google takes one tap with the current interface, and one tap with the new interface. Why do so many people fail to realise that?


And good for you. I type in portrait mode too but most Americans are fat and that has been one of the biggest complaints about the iPhone. It wouldn't affect you at all if they added landscape, but it would help millions of fat fingered people out there!
Maybe they should try this.
 
My point was that it does not change the number of taps at all. Searching Google takes one tap with the current interface, and one tap with the new interface. Why do so many people fail to realise that?

Ok I checked it out on my iPhone and yes it is only ONE tap now because when you tap to search it defaults to the Google Search field instead of the url field. But I swear there are times when it takes two taps because it defaults to the url field instead of the search field. I don't remember under what circumstances but I know it has done that to me before. Maybe they changed that in past updates.

But either way, I guess they think the new interface lets people clearly see the Google search option as they might not notice it as it is now?!

Maybe they should try this.

Haha, ya or the little iPhone finger treadmill app. But my point is there are a lot of those people out there.
 
Removes http://

I'm surprised; I haven't read so far anyone mentioning the removal of the http:// in the address bar. That's how they made it not look too much smaller. In fact it's slightly larger on the right side of the bar.

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the removal of http:// may be trivial to some of you but its an important factor to me. that's how I can tell if I'm on a secure site or not. https:// denotes a secure site using SSL; so apple better make some other way of notifying you that you're on a secure site, or make the http:// show when you click the address bar.

also i just noticed this: It looks like the tracking (space between characters) is a bit narrower to make up for some space lost to the refresh button.
 
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