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Mobile Tech Review of 15" Pro
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Apple happen to have THE fastest SSD in laptops available - I have noTouch 13" in test now and it is more than impressive in real life (huge files - e.g. 1 GB csv).
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Move to cloud storage has already started if you missed it (storage optimisation introduced in Sierra with iCloud). I'm using Dropbox and it is working just fine (until you have a good internet)
I still haven't seen a single review where they actually use the computer for anything approaching professional applications. Benchmarks are almost as useless as video game frame-rate numbers for evaluating a machine's performance in pro apps. Benchmarks and video games only use a teeny tiny slice of the machine's components at a time. Pretty pointless for comparison when most pro apps use many components in concert.
I want to read/see a review by someone who's spent a few days editing 4k video, doing AfterEffects comps, 3D animating something, colouring photos on the new screen, whatever. Even the "video editing review" Phil Schiller tweeted doesn't actually have a review of what it's like to actually edit video on the machines.
I was able to glean more about performance in 15 minutes editing 4K video on my local retail store's display model than after reading a dozen reviews.
This one included.
Like, thanks for telling me again about dongles and the touchbar, and erroneously repeating the claim about the top speaker grills only being for show, which was debunked the same day it was published, by the same people who published it (they're for tweeters, bottom grill for woofers).
I want to read/see a review by someone who's spent a few days editing 4k video, doing AfterEffects comps, 3D animating something, colouring photos on the new screen, whatever. Even the "video editing review" Phil Schiller tweeted doesn't actually have a review of what it's like to actually edit video on the machines.
I was able to glean more about performance in 15 minutes editing 4K video on my local retail store's display model than after reading a dozen reviews.
This one included.
Like, thanks for telling me again about dongles and the touchbar, and erroneously repeating the claim about the top speaker grills only being for show, which was debunked the same day it was published, by the same people who published it (they're for tweeters, bottom grill for woofers).
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I'm not sure you understood my post. It was a bit of humour. Although I am aware cloud integration has begun yes lol
LOL - that's why people are still buying windows machines... But the PC market is shrinking because casual users switched to tablets (market is saturated already - iPads sale is in plateau).
Read IBM story - they switched to Mac a couple years ago - never looked back (IBM is the PC or was). Recently they reported that company is saving $250 per computer per year comparing to windows machines (mostly cost of troubleshooting, system failures, support etc.). They have 100k. Do the math yourself.
It is really tight now - Dell, Lenovo and others must compete directly with Apple even directly via "users with agenda" here at Macrumors (the total explosion of fake threads after launch was hilarious).
Apple is taking major part of revenues - as they do with smartphone market. Dominate revenue not number of units sold. This is how you do business.
+ somebody willing to spend +$1500 on a computer, is more educated and informed than you think.
Nonsense. Windows machines are fine. Apple's market share has been shrinking too. There just isn't enough reason for people to upgrade as frequently as before.
In the meantime Windows and Linux are far more used for business compared to OSX. More software. OSX isn't even on the map when it comes to servers. It's just niche.
Just because Apple is doing business the only way they know - i.e. in a greedy, unethical manner - means only their users are being taken advantage of. Unless you're into that kind of thing, I'm not sure what you're happy about.
Nonsense. Most Apple customers buy the pretentious, mediocre, overpriced fashion tech made by this company to signal superiority. It's no wonder it's Apple hardware you see on display at any Starbuck's. It goes with the pretentious, mediocre, overpriced but fashionable coffee.
Yes, she's not using the touchbar correctly, nor are a lot of users. Ex. For volume, it's not a tap, pull up the controls, then adjust (delay, just touch and slide). Nope. Just tap and keep your finger on the volume and slide around. No need to wait for the menu. Same with the screen brightness.
Precisely. They just keep repeating the same old things. We need a proper review, not this
Actually I did cover battery life, including a comparison with the last gen's battery life. 
Actually I did cover battery life, including a comparison with the last gen's battery life.
I appreciate your videos Lisa. You can't please 'em all!
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Actually I did cover battery life, including a comparison with the last gen's battery life.
In this review? I must have missed it, I will watch again. How that got by me is really surprising. Must not have been a meaningful comparison because my real world long term in depth usage of this laptop proves otherwise. What about covering the TB a little more in depth? Not trying to be smug, but I've seen much more comprehensive reviews by you on other machines. Lenovo Yoga for instance, coverage there was fantastic. This review of the 15 left me longing for something a little more.
Since you are perusing the forums, take a look at how many of us have experienced battery life issues. I had a 15 inch TB model and never got more than 7-8 hours with just internet surfing. On this 13 I am using I am getting 8-9 same kind of usage, with everything dialed down and Siri off etc. Point is few, if ANY users here are getting the 10 hours Apple got in their tests. So it would be nice to see a seasoned reviewer dial in on that spec. If you got 8 hours how did you measure it out? What programs did you use exactly. Details like that..Thanks!
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I think the battery complaint is interesting. My view on this is that in the past, Apple undersold their battery life and so everybody was happy. Apple quoting 10 hrs is pretty much par on course with other manufacturers now which is that in certain situations, you can hit 10. Don't expect to hit 10 in any type of active workload.
IE, reviews that streamed video or watched a video from harddrive, without ever touching the keyboard, have gotten 10 hours.
IE, reviews that streamed video or watched a video from harddrive, without ever touching the keyboard, have gotten 10 hours.
I have used Mac laptops and desktops since the mid-80's. If anything, that would lead some folks to believe I'm biased toward Macs. My main machine is a MacBook Pro 15". But honestly, that's not important.
This is important:
I have NEVER and will NEVER do a sponsored review of a laptop, that's not how I roll and I believe it's unethical. In this age of misinformation and blatant lies passed off so casually, I won't let that lie pass for the truth.
This is important:
I have NEVER and will NEVER do a sponsored review of a laptop, that's not how I roll and I believe it's unethical. In this age of misinformation and blatant lies passed off so casually, I won't let that lie pass for the truth.
My take on the battery life as posted in another thread...
That battery meter is full of crap. It fluctuates constantly. At 100%, it shows 4.5 hours battery life... at 70% I have 5.5 hours and then at 50% I have 5 hours. WTF. I believe this is why people believe the battery life sucks, because the battery meter algorithm sucks
Apple will probably fix this on a software update.
Yeah sure, thats why she loves her 2015 macbook pro and uses it as her main machine. You people are just ridiculous.
Over a year and half of professional use globally (heavy engineering) with a Retina MacBook, have yet to see a single peripheral that can natively connect to the rMB. We are still several years, if not more from serious adoption of USB C, dongles & adapters are simply more to manage, more to loose, if we were all brutally honest nobody wants them.
If you control your "computing" environment USB C will bring benefit, if not it can be more trouble than it`s worth unless you can take advantage of TB-3`s bandwidth. This is exactly why many do not want a computing solution that relies solely on dongles etc. for connectivity.
As a consultant in general the expectation is that you are self sufficient, needing to ask for dongles/adaptors most definitely is not the way to go.
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not exactly true. I consider myself a "Pro" user and love to buy new tech HOWEVER I think apple is innovating with a very strong arm on this one. The removal of ports (i know the dongles!) magsafe was AMAZING! And the slight backseat in performance to the 2015 15 doesnt help. I do however like the new color and the thinner design and the screen though!
It`s just a reflect of the power demand, Apple can average it out more, equally all that`s doing is smoothing the curve. My own take is to purchase portables with adequate battery capacity to perform the tasks I need on the go, for the duration I need.
Apple depreciating the battery capacity of the MBP has indeed helped to reduce weight and volume, it has also served to weaken the MBP in the face of the competition.
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I would say to 2012 or early 2013
by late 2013, haswell chips, you're still riding the wave of awesome. assuming you have 8/256 or better, or can cope with 4/128 in the case of some 13" sku's if memory serves me right
but the 2012 15" even seem to withstand the test of time, 16gb and quad core
I say this every time, but I love Lisa from MTR,
sometimes I just watch videos for intriguing products, like this the 15" tB, not at all in the market right now or for a 15" haha, but I'm equally disappointed by things she pointed out
Didn't realize speaker grills were cosmetic on ALL 2016's, thought just 13" originally. yikes that bothers me even if it sounds amazing. i don't like the aesthetic second speaker look on the bottom of my 7+ either, though its symmetry is nice.
what the heck is going on with apple? I like a nice design but it seems to take precedence over everything else, with these
I still love my 12" rMB 2015. I get the benefit of the look, and practically of a 2lb tiny tablet sized laptop, and only one dongle dangling at a time, 4 looks hideous and like a prototype-y mess.
compromising with 12" makes sense, given how friggin tiny it is. same with lack of key travel, i always long for more key travel on this machine , and glad I have 13" rMBP late 2013 as well, but geez, on a Pro machine with its footprint, NO KEY TRAVEL relatively speaking?? and super clicky, it did sound absurdly loud and i don't mind some acoustics.
the hinge too, sharp but in line with 12" design,
the trackpad is reasonably sized for its size, too, and the design looks less awkward-- I've never wanted an absurdly sized trackpad with these new models,
i dunno it made me love my rMB more seeing these new iterations, and touchbar seems cool but like a conundrum, too
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More and more i feel like my perfect laptop would be kaby lake rMB around 13-14" with the new keyboard
Yeah having a rMB and 13" rMBP, the added real estate of going 1.3" more, is more substantial than one would think
..and in terms of your dream laptop, 13-14" rMB ALSO with two ports, one on each side, not like the non touchbar 13" that has two on only one side WTF
Just like how around 5" or lower 5" to make the leap less drastic from plus, with less chunky bezels would be relatively perfect ergonomics for an iDevice, yet they offer 4.7" and 5.5" with, chunky bezels (I don't deny bezels are nice and needed, but geez) and for a third unprecedented round, no less.
And the rumor is they're going to release a 10.5" iPad next year? I don't feel like I care or want/need this??
Plus when the difference between regular and plus is already 0.8", same with the proposed leap MAX from what rumors appear to, could be even less-- gimme a break, cluttering the product lineup even further
they always kinda miss the mark, lol
These aren't even subtle details or observations (imo), they are OBVIOUS
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