Warning... Lisa doesn't like the new keyboard... loves the screen, but overall a REAL mixed bag review edging more towards the negative side:
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Lisa does great reviews. Thanks for sharing. I understand the criticism of the keyboard (and the initial pricing was a downer too). I am hooked up to an external monitor and keyboard except for an hour a day or so, so these included keyboards not as big a deal for me.
I like these new MacBook Pro's, but didn't have the same excitement as when the MacBook Pro with Retina came out. Also had an "OMG" moment when I saw how thin and light the 2015 rMB was. This new MacBook Pro I was like "yeah, I'll probably get it, it's a solid machine."
From what I remember, in her review of the rMB she said she could never get used to the new butterfly keyboard but that others have gotten used to it. I had the rMB for about a week before returning it and I adjusted to the new keyboard rather quickly.
Let's be real here. She used the thing for like a day. This is more of a preview and view count grab (look! First ever MacBook Pro review!1!1)
I tried the MacBook keyboard, and it's fine. Shorter travel, but quite pleasant. I find that I can type faster, because my fingers can move/glide faster across the shorter keys.
Supposedly the new MBP keyboard's butterfly mechanism is slightly different, and gives a bit more feedback compared to gen 1 butterfly's. Looking forward to trying it out in store.
Supposedly the new MBP keyboard's butterfly mechanism is slightly different, and gives a bit more feedback compared to gen 1 butterfly's. Looking forward to trying it out in store.
God damn she makes such good reviews. Such well thought out and well articulated opinions that don't seem biased for the sake of "well I like apple so that's gonna make my opinion sway in this direction"
Her opinions pretty much echo mine. Good laptop. Not great. Real downsides. Lots of wtf from apple
Her opinions pretty much echo mine. Good laptop. Not great. Real downsides. Lots of wtf from apple
I can't stand Lisa Gade's stutter sometimes. Watch her phone reviews to know what I mean. She is more of a reviewer catered for soccer mom types. But she does have some nice reviews especially for MacBooks and she is very honest which I like. I prefer to hear things she doesn't like than the usual praises.
Lisa is one of the better reviewers on the "Tube" and I have yet to see her be off the mark, so this does not bode well...
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I usually don't care for most video reviews (usually so much meta-discourse and so little content), but she is very intelligent and thorough. This was a very good watch.
Sexist much? Lisa is easily the best and more knowledgable computer reviewers on YouTube.
What exactly makes her catering to "soccer moms"? My first thought when reading that was that that was a very sexist remark that wouldn't be said if she was a dude
I really like her reviews. I think Apple is going to struggle with these models if they don't lower the prices.
If only they'd included a dedicated MagSafe charging port & SD slot (and maybe included a little USB adapter like this). I hope they listen customer feedback and make some improvements next year.
If only they'd included a dedicated MagSafe charging port & SD slot (and maybe included a little USB adapter like this). I hope they listen customer feedback and make some improvements next year.
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WTF they even removed the extended length power cable from the box? 
Maybe that's why this release was so close to Halloween - its spooky bad!
Maybe that's why this release was so close to Halloween - its spooky bad!
WTF they even removed the extended length power cable from the box?
Maybe that's why this release was so close to Halloween - its spooky bad!
Apple did exactly the same with the 12" MacBook. Apple is solely about $$$$ these days, they are looking to control and license as much as possible and push the boundaries of there customers wallets.
A friend of mine has some involvement with Apple`s supply chain, some of the details he recants are simply mind-blowing. Apple is absolutely driven by it`s own staggering greed...
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I went into an Apple store and played with this variant. Not impressed, only 2 ports, keyboard is very very shallow, I couldn't feel any difference compared to the rMB keyboard.
All my past Apple purchases were 'Wow I need to buy this now', this one is more like 'meh, I need to think about it first'. Usually when I end up thinking about it it doesn't bode well...
All my past Apple purchases were 'Wow I need to buy this now', this one is more like 'meh, I need to think about it first'. Usually when I end up thinking about it it doesn't bode well...
After over a year with the 12" rMB and now my Samsung TabPro S, the Keyboards are OK, however I tend to agree with Lisa that the older MacBook Pro keyboards offer a better typing experience. I can accept such shallow travel keys with the likes of the TabPro S etc. as it`s designed for extreme portability. If the new MacBook Pro is the same as the current 12" MacBook it will be a negative for me.
I do like the "clicky" nature of the rMB & TabPro S KB and between the two I prefer the Samsung`s as it feels more positive. With the MacBook Pro Apple should be looking to rival the likes of Lenovo`s superb X1 Carbon keyboard not prioritising "thinner" at the cost of everything else
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LOL - Yep, those soccer moms are all about watt hours, contrast levels, nits, adobe values...
Sorry, but what a stupid comment.
Her review was not that negative. She was just not happy about the stuff we are not happy with such as the lack of ports, shallow keyboard and ULV CPUs at a high price. She did love the designs and the screen.
I like this woman but she's had this machine 5 minutes.... It reads more like a first impressions than a full review. Im happy about Apple embracing the current standards over the legacy standards.
In my experience if I don't hit the keyboards with more travel in exactly the right spot they don't register the click. I'm not a heavy presser when I type. I like to barely touch the keys at all when I type. The MacBook style keyboard allows for this. I suspect Apple will perfect the keyboard even more into the future. For now I'm much more happy with the keyboard on my rMB than I am with the keyboard on the 15" 2015 MBP issued to me at work.
In my experience if I don't hit the keyboards with more travel in exactly the right spot they don't register the click. I'm not a heavy presser when I type. I like to barely touch the keys at all when I type. The MacBook style keyboard allows for this. I suspect Apple will perfect the keyboard even more into the future. For now I'm much more happy with the keyboard on my rMB than I am with the keyboard on the 15" 2015 MBP issued to me at work.
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Like others have said I think she does some of the best and honest laptop reviews. Many other reviewers just rate something highly probably because they don't want to lose their freebies from the manufacturer.
Yes, a LOT of people out there get freebies or expensive products given to them, it's why the policies were changed to that you now MUST declare if the manufacture has given you the product. That Boogie / Francis chap was caught out with that with receiving free Xbox stuff.
I watch every reviews from Lisa if im going to buy something and she has made the review..
The best part is that they are not too spec-orientated reviews. They are always more (not less) typical scenarios for most people, so everybody can follow her without knowing anything of the specs. But... She still doesnt forget us, who wants to know just alittle bit more beyond the cover.
I follow her in youtube and immediately watched the review and it was great. I was worried about the butterfly keyboard - i hated it in macbooks - and she honestly said what she thinks about the 2nd gen keyboard.
As she said on the vid, she has used macs from 80's so i quess she knows what is good and bad for her (easy to identify). I think she has very good points about current pro models and how pro they feels.
Much better review than any other has made repeating the same story after each other.
She's one of the best at what she does, in my view. Among other things, her reviews of device features are thoroughgoing, she references widely consulted benchmarks, points out both positive and negative end user considerations, and provides her well-informed opinion. If you haven't seen her other reviews you might want to check some out.