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No you are wrong. Updating MM Calendar/Address Book is kicking off automatic sync on Mac for many of us. If you haven't already watched this:

http://massoh.com/chris/push.mov

Someone has already responded to this, but I think we need to be clear on this. You are mistaken.

If you are not having Push from MobileMe to your Mac, your setup is not working correctly. (I'm not saying it's your fault, it may be a bug for some people)

But... there is Push from MobileMe to your Mac. Just not the other way around.

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I don't think so. Many people, including myself, are having problems with this. If we are configured wrong, tell us how to configure. I have read this entire thread (skimming sometimes) and can't find anything that I'm not doing.

FYI, I am running Leopard, did the MobileMe 1.1 Updater, am set to "Automatic," and have rebooted. Also, I have a full-fledged account (not a trial one).
 
They seemed to have omitted the feature to send files via the iDisk ala YouSendIt. This is absent from the web videos now too. Does anyone else's allow this function because this was something I was really looking forward to. This is a real bummer if they just up and cancelled it.

Yeah, I contacted Apple about this. I was looking forward to this feature as well.
 
I don't think so. Many people, including myself, are having problems with this. If we are configured wrong, tell us how to configure. I have read this entire thread (skimming sometimes) and can't find anything that I'm not doing.

FYI, I am running Leopard, did the MobileMe 1.1 Updater, am set to "Automatic," and have rebooted.

Ditto. There's something screwing it up for some of us. I don't think anyone knows yet.

What system are you running on your mac? I'm running a MacPro. I also have pro apps like FCP and there was recently a proapps updater. Maybe something like that is interfering.
 
My work schedule includes multiple meetings and appointments that are booked by others - I have no way of knowing where to be without consulting a calendar, and it changes often enough that paper won't do. I'd use Exchange, but my organization doesn't support it, so I've been copying appointments to iCal and syncing with my iPhone manually. MobileMe is far from perfect (I'm not happy about the lack of push from the desktop), but even as is, it'll save me valuable time. Is it advanced technology? No, but it'll do until something better comes along.

And you need to pay Apple to accomplish this?

I still have yet to see why you must pay for this service. Sounds like all you need is a portable calendar.
 
Why do people only point out the few things that it has in common with free services?

Ok, why pay...

Integration with the OS, first and foremost. My prefs, bookmarks, dashboard, notes, keychains, dock items, etc. All synced. All my computers basically the same. Same bookmarks, prefs, etc.

iPhoto integration. I have a little boy and blogs and photo galleries are a big deal. I use iPhoto to get the photos off my camera. I toss a couple into an album (gallery) in iPhoto and presto, they're updated on my gallery. No ftp. No uploading via a clunky web interface. Clean simple and useful.

iWeb integration. I blog about the boy. We make really nice blog pages and web pages with incredible ease. Sure, you can get a free ad laden blog on the web. But, doesn't integrate with a desktop app either.

Sure, other email solutions can sync up in mail like mobileme, but not as well and not as easy.

EDIT: also the ical integration. I know there are web soutions, but it's just not the same as a well synced desktop calendar with publishing.

You can get all of this for free. So basically, you're paying Apple $99/year because you don't want to learn how to do it like the other 95% of the population?
 
I can confirm changes in the mail web app are instantly pushed to my desktop mail app, just not the other way around.
 
Ditto. There's something screwing it up for some of us. I don't think anyone knows yet.

What system are you running on your mac? I'm running a MacPro. I also have pro apps like FCP and there was recently a proapps updater. Maybe something like that is interfering.

I also have a Mac Pro, running 10.5.4. Also have FCP and did the Pro Apps update, though I'm not sure how that could affect it.

My thinking is that Apple is still getting the features rolled out to every account. Some people have this feature, some don't. I am hoping mine works properly in a week in terms of me.com ---> Mac push. I am also hoping Apple issues a software update to get Mac ---> me.com push to work.
 
You can get all of this for free. So basically, you're paying Apple $99/year because you don't want to learn how to do it like the other 95% of the population?

Maybe if you actually "Used" all of the features of .Mac you would see the benefit of paying for it. 2 things that nothing on the web competes with on .Mac. If I'm wrong correct me.

Local desktop iDisk. I mentioned this earlier, System Preferences on a Mac will allow you to set up a permanent local iDisk on your desktop. All of your files on MobileMe are downloaded permanently to your desktop. You never have to be connected to the web to have access to it. You can drag and drop files to and the sync begins immediately and pushes to the web.
Secondly my contacts and bookmarks are synced to the cloud so if I need to reformat my hard drive for any reason I can safely wipe the drive clean and download everything back to my desktop including iCal calenders. Sometimes it's the small things that justify the price.
If Mobile is not for you then, it's not for YOU. But it doesn't mean it's not everyone else just because it's not for YOU. Keep that in mind.
 
Watching Phil demo mobile me during the keynote... He makes a change to his iCal on the iMac and the change is reflected on the iPhone with in 10 seconds.... So... if there is no Mac --> MobileMe push, then how did that work? I didn't see him press any sync button. What's going on here?
 
You can get all of this for free. So basically, you're paying Apple $99/year because you don't want to learn how to do it like the other 95% of the population?

Dude, I'm a web designer and I still find it easier. Why don't YOU tell me how to do what I described for free. Add iDisk in there too while you're at it.
 
Watching Phil demo mobile me during the keynote... He makes a change to his iCal on the iMac and the change is reflected on the iPhone with in 10 seconds.... So... if there is no Mac --> MobileMe push, then how did that work? I didn't see him press any sync button. What's going on here?

Magic? Pixies? Clever timing? A Duck? ;)

I think we'll see this working properly before the end of the week. Apple has focused too much on pushing iPhone and dropped the ball this time.
 
People... You need to check the video clearly.... ITS NOT PUSH from MMe to Mac either

You can clearly see the 2 arrow thing (.Mac sync indicator) spinning each time an event is added! I say this because I turned the sync pref to everyday and nothing happened!
 
Watching Phil demo mobile me during the keynote... He makes a change to his iCal on the iMac and the change is reflected on the iPhone with in 10 seconds.... So... if there is no Mac --> MobileMe push, then how did that work? I didn't see him press any sync button. What's going on here?

He never used iCal, that was the web interface.
 
I also have a Mac Pro, running 10.5.4. Also have FCP and did the Pro Apps update, though I'm not sure how that could affect it.

My thinking is that Apple is still getting the features rolled out to every account. Some people have this feature, some don't. I am hoping mine works properly in a week in terms of me.com ---> Mac push. I am also hoping Apple issues a software update to get Mac ---> me.com push to work.

I've gone through everything. I've unregistered my computers. I've unsynced everything and resynced. I've reset the sync history... everything!!!!

Even just now I created a new event in the online calendar. Nothing got pushed of course. So, I did the manual sync. It synced an even I added half an hour ago, but did NOT sync the even I had just created a few minutes before. So here I am syncing manually and the stuff still doesn't go to the computer. To the iphone instantly though.

WTF
 
People... You need to check the video clearly.... ITS NOT PUSH from MMe to Mac either

You can clearly see the 2 arrow thing (.Mac sync indicator) spinning each time an event is added! I say this because I turned the sync pref to everyday and nothing happened!

No, it's not push to the mac, but a push sync event. It's supposed to sync every 15min on auto, but if you add something on the web or iphone, it should trigger a mac sync. It's not happenin on many of our systems.
 
is iPod Touch/iPhone to Mac/Mobile me with Mail push? How does it work?
If i delete from iPod it doesn't delete on Mac & Mobile Me, but when I delete on Mac it deletes on MobileMe (when I refresh or whatever). Works vice versa, just haven't figured out the iPod/iPhone comes in.

Thanks
 
No, it's not push to the mac, but a push sync event. It's supposed to sync every 15min on auto, but if you add something on the web or iphone, it should trigger a mac sync. It's not happenin on many of our systems.

Yup, That seems to be valid enough! But Im Not getting that. I mean, It doesnt generate an auto sync even if I edit my web apps!:(
 
Maybe if you actually "Used" all of the features of .Mac you would see the benefit of paying for it. 2 things that nothing on the web competes with on .Mac. If I'm wrong correct me.

Local desktop iDisk. I mentioned this earlier, System Preferences on a Mac will allow you to set up a permanent local iDisk on your desktop. All of your files on MobileMe are downloaded permanently to your desktop. You never have to be connected to the web to have access to it. You can drag and drop files to and the sync begins immediately and pushes to the web.
Secondly my contacts and bookmarks are synced to the cloud so if I need to reformat my hard drive for any reason I can safely wipe the drive clean and download everything back to my desktop including iCal calenders. Sometimes it's the small things that justify the price.
If Mobile is not for you then, it's not for YOU. But it doesn't mean it's not everyone else just because it's not for YOU. Keep that in mind.

1. Any online storage + any half-decent FTP software (e.g. Transmit). I might add that third-party FTP solutions perform far better than the Finder's painfully slow FTP or WebDAV support.
2. Any backup software (including Time Machine, which is a great example of an innovative Apple product).
 
is iPod Touch/iPhone to Mac/Mobile me with Mail push? How does it work?
If i delete from iPod it doesn't delete on Mac & Mobile Me, but when I delete on Mac it deletes on MobileMe (when I refresh or whatever). Works vice versa, just haven't figured out the iPod/iPhone comes in.

Thanks

It's totally push between the web and iphone/touch. Either way. But you may have to refresh the web browser to see additions and deletions from the iphone. For example, if you add an event on your iphone, you may have to refresh the browser if you're already in calendar on mobileme. But if you add something to the cal on mobileme, your touch or iphone will update within 2-10 seconds.

It's the desktop syncing/push that is being debated. Number one, people feel they were misled by apple and that there was push from the mac to the web and iphone demonstrated with no manual or delayed syncing involved. Second, there is a debate over whether adding items on the web is instigating an automated sync with the desktop. It's working for some, not for others.
 
Second, there is a debate over whether adding items on the web is instigating an automated sync with the desktop. It's working for some, not for others.

Not working for me at least... Its still the same ol' 15 min sync!:(
 
Be honest, what's the biggest difference between using the new Web 2.0 MobileMe interface vs. using the desktop apps? Really nothing. Sure, you can say well if the website is down or my internet isn't working then I can use the desktop apps. True but then at this point will not have to be concerned about "Push" as it requires the internet to work. The MobileMe web interface mimics the desktop apps pretty well, almost indistinguishable and they are all in a one-stop shop. I prefer it that way. And everything will be pushed immediately.

The exact difference is this, a desktop app works all of the time, whether or not you have internet access. A Web 2.0 app doesn't... If you are out of range of some sort of internet connectivity you're out of luck. Efficient workflow depends on structure and stability. It is anything but efficient to change how you do your work, and relying on a web app is going to require you to do exactly that when you have to switch back to the desktop app when you're offline.

Beyond the inefficiency, I just don't want to use two apps to do the same thing, one for when I'm online and one for when I'm not. I meet with clients all of the time and probably half of them do not have WiFi in their offices so I'd have to switch back to iCal to do any project scheduling.

That said, it's not a huge deal to wait 15 minutes in the mean time. I just hope I don't forget and close my laptop before I sync and miss something. I'm hopeful that at some point Apple will update the apps to remedy the situation, or at least someone will work out a third-party solution.

I think the frustration is that we've come to expect that something will work well without a lot of interference when it comes from Apple. That hasn't really been the case lately.

Josh
 
My problem is that while contacts and calendar changes sync to my iPhone almost instantaneously as well as on Me.com and my iMac, my Mail syncs back and forth between Me.com and the iMac but not my iPhone. When I get a new mail piece or mark new mail as read on my iMac, my iPhone never changes the red circled number on the home screen. I have to manually go into the Mail app and wait for it to update my iPhone. Which is not "Push". The whole point is to be anywhere on your home screens and see that number change down on the mail icon on your iPhone and know that you have new mail.

Also, birthday calendars from the address book are viewable on my iMac as well as on Me.com (the is a preference on Me.com to show them), but they don't show on the iPhone. For my it makes more sense to add a separate calendar for B-Days to iCal that will sync to the iPhone as well. The only downside is that each time I add a new contact and their B-Day, I will have to add it to the B-Day calendar that I made.
 
1. Any online storage + any half-decent FTP software (e.g. Transmit). I might add that third-party FTP solutions perform far better than the Finder's painfully slow FTP or WebDAV support.
2. Any backup software (including Time Machine, which is a great example of an innovative Apple product).

Both your answers aren't complete solutions. Backup software doesn't keep two desktops in sync. And online storage plus ftp is not a user friendly masses solution that fits tidily into the os.

I happily pay for an ftp solution I like - fetch. $25. If $99 a year makes life easier than using gmail or yahoo or other online solutions then it's worth it. If it saves me an hour or two of hassle, then it's paid for itself. If you're still working at the local quickie mart, you probably shouldn't be paying for convenience because time may be money, but if you're not making much money, then money is definitely TIME! Ouch. Use the freebies. They're not that bad. But then, one can afford to spend the extra grand for the convenience of a mac in the first place, ....
 
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