Exactly! It's all very well saying you can do a quick manual sync before you close it but what if you forget? One of the reasons I was very interested in this technology is because I have a lot of appointments for my son who was born premature, and so my wife will often set them up then let me know at work so I can add it to my calendar at work. With MobileMe she should be able to go into my calendar at home and it all syncs instantly so I can see whatever she has added by logging into me.com from work... I can't expect to have to show my wife how to sync first before she closes the laptop and expect her to remember to do this every time! I do not see how difficult it is to update the iSync on the Mac so that if there is an event change or update in iCal it will run an immediate sync and the same for Address book, seems like a pretty simple solution to me
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MobileMe's Push Services Detailed, No Mac to Mobile Me 'Push'
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Exactly! It's all very well saying you can do a quick manual sync before you close it but what if you forget? One of the reasons I was very interested in this technology is because I have a lot of appointments for my son who was born premature, and so my wife will often set them up then let me know at work so I can add it to my calendar at work. With MobileMe she should be able to go into my calendar at home and it all syncs instantly so I can see whatever she has added by logging into me.com from work... I can't expect to have to show my wife how to sync first before she closes the laptop and expect her to remember to do this every time! I do not see how difficult it is to update the iSync on the Mac so that if there is an event change or update in iCal it will run an immediate sync and the same for Address book, seems like a pretty simple solution to me
This seemed to happen with me a couple of times when I first started trying mobile me, but then it stopped after the 1.1 update. If you look at the KB article it was created on 7/10 so maybe initially it was supposed to sync immediately but because of problems Apple changed it to 15 minute syncs for OSX for now and they plan on fixing it later
nice work, Lancetx! it is amazing how they so elegantly dance around the mac->cloud non-push.
Well, if your "instant push" happens to take 15 seconds because the network is slow where you are, then you'll still be in trouble if you close your laptop after 10 seconds. If it's vital that your changes get pushed right away you'd want to do a manual sync anyway.
+1... exactly. Even with push turned off (which I'd probably end up doing as it's even less dependable) you just can't depend on the data to be accurate.
I've not even put anything useful in yet - just a couple of bits of experimental data - and already there are times when one appointment in iCal will get "stuck" on one side whilst everything else stays in sync, this has happened a few times.
Not to mention the times when it'll actually 'admit' they're inconsistent refuse to sync, then it's up to the user to work out the correct data, make the target machine correct and reset the sync data.
It's an absolute mess, and has also been deliberately crippled on the Mac side, no doubt as an excuse for them to tout the "amazing" push ability when it's returned in Snow Leopard - I guess they finally thought of a 'feature' that can sell an otherwise dull upgrade!
Doubt I'll be running it past the trial, unless they really sort things out.
I would guess that it is not so simple, or Apple would have done it. I can't imagine that it never occurred to them.
Well it really is simple programming.. when event X happens, trigger process Y .. it's basic stuff.
Not really.
I'd watch the spinning sync icon in the top right.
As soon as it was done spinning, I'd close the computer.
10 seconds was a slight exaggeration too.
I guess you should pass that on to Apple then, since apparently they haven't realized how simple it is.
Can anyone verify if Mobile Me contacts are pushing to the iPhone (3G)
Can anyone verify if push Mobile Me contacts are pushing to the iPhone (3G).
I still can not get MM to push my Contacts from MM to the iPhone (3G).
It does seem Apple (MM) team has fixed the MM Family Pack application.
People can actually apply the MM Fam Pack to their existing dot Mac accounts and have it successfully complete the process.
This was either not working or absent since MM went live.
Can anyone verify if push Mobile Me contacts are pushing to the iPhone (3G).
I still can not get MM to push my Contacts from MM to the iPhone (3G).
It does seem Apple (MM) team has fixed the MM Family Pack application.
People can actually apply the MM Fam Pack to their existing dot Mac accounts and have it successfully complete the process.
This was either not working or absent since MM went live.
They know how to do it, there are already plenty of trigger events in osx that occur all the time to run various processes, this is just another one of those... something was overlooked or something went horribly wrong in the implementation of this
That would only work if you had access to a Mac while on the road and your Mac at home was always on!
Just to have access to my email from mobileme is all I ask for at the moment. It hasn't shown up for days!
Yeah Right! I agree that MobileMe certainly needs help at this point because although the iPhone rollout was a chaotic it ended up quite successful but MobileMe is still scrambled quite a bit.
YOU THINK you'll cancel after the subscription but YOU WON'T. DON'T KID YOURSELF. No matter how crappy things get with Microsoft and Apple they hardly lose customers, in fact it's quite the opposite the more problems that exist the more people hang on hoping things will get better.
You can't blame Apple for how your internet company configured your router. Comcast doesn't have this issue (at least for me and the rest of my MobileMe friends), all of my Mac friends with Comcast get the instant push from the MobileMe website to the desktop and we never had to re-configure our routers.
Wow, I got the Me->Mac push working by setting my iMac's IP as the default host in my Airport Extreme. This essentially makes it a DMZ'd box.
Oddly enough I cannot just open UDP 5353 as the Extreme gripes that something else uses 5353.
Edit: I take that back DMZ didn't help. It seems that the instant push only happens for future events. If you add something to your calendar that is in the past (even an hour behind the current time "line" it will not issue an instant push.) If you add something in the future the push seems near instantaneous.
Oddly enough I cannot just open UDP 5353 as the Extreme gripes that something else uses 5353.
Edit: I take that back DMZ didn't help. It seems that the instant push only happens for future events. If you add something to your calendar that is in the past (even an hour behind the current time "line" it will not issue an instant push.) If you add something in the future the push seems near instantaneous.
That's completely useless.
To use VNC/Remote Desktop/Similar app, the Mac would need to be left on and connected to the internet - thus totally removing any issue with MobileMe's syncing.
The problem is that people can't or don't leave their computer running or connected to the internet. That could even be totally impossible with a notebook.
I don't know (nor do I pretend to know), but if they could snap their fingers and have it done, don't you think they would, instead of back paddling and rewriting their marketing material?
Oh sure, just make stuff up about me, why not. Fanboy can't stand the slightest bit of dissent against the Holy Company so let's just make things up! You have NO CLUE what I'm going to do, heck neither do I!
Unlike anyone with emotional attachments to an operating system (*cough cough*), I will stay rational and make a judgement based on the merits of the service. I'd love for it to be worth keeping, that's WHY I complain (out of disappointment and knowledge that they can do better) but the fact of the matter is that right now, practically the same thing can be done for free with Google and some sync addons.
Apple's offering is a little more convenient, but also requires sacrifices (isn't this always the case). Push service is one of the conveniences that might make it - and the expense - worthwhile... but if it's impossible to depend on the accuracy of the data from one place to the next then I'm afraid the free service from Google wins! What use is instant data if it's all garbage?
Microsoft don't lose customers? Please. They've only ever had my custom once. With the likes of Linux and OS X under the belt of experience, I make choices based on logic, not childish lap-dog loyalty or emotional attachments.
Ok after more examination:
If I tell my Extreme to restart. When it comes back up Me can push to my iCal for about 15 minutes and then it's dead again (no pushing just auto syncing).
Setting myself as the default host does not work and I cannot open UDP port 5353 as the Airport utility says it's a conflicting port.
Edit again: If I simply drop my Wifi connection to my Extreme and reconnect the push from MM works again temporarily.
If I tell my Extreme to restart. When it comes back up Me can push to my iCal for about 15 minutes and then it's dead again (no pushing just auto syncing).
Setting myself as the default host does not work and I cannot open UDP port 5353 as the Airport utility says it's a conflicting port.
Edit again: If I simply drop my Wifi connection to my Extreme and reconnect the push from MM works again temporarily.