Yes I dont know how I cope walking about with this Plasma TV in my pocket. Look how dinky the iPhone 5 looks next to it.
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I don't care if it was a mistranslation-- I hope Apple realizes that the "iPhone Math" name is gold!
Not everything needs to be retina resolution-- the resolutions defined as "retina" assume perfect vision at the viewing distance. I know a couple people now who have switched to Android because the bigger screen is easier for them to read. If you need it bigger to see it, you don't need more pixels.
From here, I think it's all letterboxing, pixel doubling, and stretching content areas to fit...
Not everything needs to be retina resolution-- the resolutions defined as "retina" assume perfect vision at the viewing distance. I know a couple people now who have switched to Android because the bigger screen is easier for them to read. If you need it bigger to see it, you don't need more pixels.
Resolution independence died with pixel doubling. It was just too much to ask everyone to use vector graphics for everything.
From here, I think it's all letterboxing, pixel doubling, and stretching content areas to fit...
Actually I didn't say they won't release a new non-Retina device. Did you read carefully? I said they won't release a 264 PPI iPhone.
Later, I did add that I meant that in the context of an iPhone with a larger screen than today as discussed in the article. I can agree that a less expensive, smaller model with a 264 PPI display (perhaps even lower - who knows) would be possible, though I don't necessarily believe it to be likely. That's another story for another thread though.
I know you didn't, nor did I claim that you said that. But for practical purposes, the argument boils to that effectively. You disagree, and that is absolutely fine by me.
Of course. You don't have to carry these devices around with you. Also a TV or computer is typically mounted in a specific spot and is not easily moved closer during use. In a living room, seating is usually also fixed too. So you choose something that you think will present a reasonable size image. It is no accident, by the way, that manufacturers target a certain size as the volume model for TVs. The fact is that most living rooms fall within some range of sizes, and there is an ideal image size (and pixel size) for any given distance - it works out to 42" to 50" in many cases.
For the sake of argument we'll assume you are correct. Now what happens to the number of interested customers if resolution is also higher too, and the image is just as sharp as or sharper than the smaller model? Well it goes up, for sure.
If choice is really what you advocate, then you'll fully support an iPhone PlusPlus with 360 DPI or more right along side your iPhone Plus.
No...just that the flat sided iPhones are about the least comfortable to hold for a bit than just about everything else.
These are all valid points. And you are not alone in your opinions either.
Rest assured that devices like this are coming. There are already phones with no "Home" button, and bezels are sure to shrink more and more as time goes on too. Innovative speaker and microphone solutions that help shrink the bezel will be developed as well.
In fact, within this decade, I would be willing to bet that we'll see phones that are no larger than today's iPhone 5 packing ~5" screens at 1920x1080 resolution (or perhaps even more).
Yeah, well, if you read - both the article and the posts that follow - then it becomes perfectly clear.
If your intention is merely to taunt those of us taking time to craft good arguments by being a sarcastic wise ass once your reasonable-retort-well has run dry, then I agree that not reading and instead just shooting off your mouth while also shooting from the hip is the proper course of action.
That would be sweet but ... overkill for a big reason: battery.
It works on the iPad because of the battery, did you know it is over 11,000mAh? Compare that with the iPhone 5 at 1,440mAh. If they put that on an iPhone with a 2000mAh battery (which is almost 40% larger than iPhone 5 capacity) the battery life would suck!
I like it.
What if it isn't trying to be a flagship phone but the rumored budget iPhone? Then it would make sense.
Apple could increase the width of the iPhone by around 5 mm since that was the width of the 3G and 3GS. Plus, by using IGZO, they would be able to add almost 1 cm in screen width without making the device unusable with one hand.
I know what you mean but they haven't innovated the iPhone since it was launched!! for sure the MUST go to a bigger screen, the S3 kills the iPhone 5 in looks alone..
I can't see this happening. Companies are coming out with 5" screens that have 1080p resolution. Apple would come out with a 5" screen that isn't even 720p??? That doesn't smell right to me. Especially since a 5" iPhone would be their top of the line phone.
Apple, screw worrying about your app ecosystem and just release a 1080p 5" iPhone.
Apple, screw worrying about your app ecosystem and just release a 1080p 5" iPhone.
So according to you, the rumored iPhone Plus with a 4.9-inch 264 ppi screen becomes the budget iPhone and the smaller-screen iPhone 5 or 5S becomes the premium phone. Call me stupid but to me that makes no sense.
Uh no. Apple (under Jobs' leadership) went with the original size of the iPhone because they believed it to be the best balance between mobility and screen size. Admittedly, that was before the App Store was even on the roadmap, as Jobs was initially strongly opposed to third-party apps on the iPhone. Some apps obviously work better on a bigger screen.
You can see that Jobs held onto his strong belief in keeping the phone small enough to comfortably use with one hand, and one feels the elongated 4 inch display of the iPhone 5 was itself a reaction to consumer demand for larger screens, but while holding onto their rationale for a smaller onei.e. keeping the width the same, so it feels almost the same in the hand. It was an attempt to please everyone with one design, and that approach rarely worksalthough I personally happen to think the size works well.
IF (and it's a very big if in my opinion) Apple does go with an even larger screen, it will most certainly be a reaction to the market. To say otherwise just reeks of dogged fanboyism I'm afraid. The evidence is, Apple designers believed the current width of the iPhone to be the right one for most people's hands, and I see no evidence to suggest that Apple's opinion has changed, or that people's hands are getting bigger.
Which you will gladly do if you're lucky enough to enter the "reading glasses" generation.
Simply by definition "Retina display" means "more resolution than you can use". Wasted pixels - especially if you don't have teen-aged eyes.
And, since IOS has such stupid ways of dealing with resolution, sometimes it's "much more resolution than you can use".
Point is - many people would be happy with larger displays, even if the ppi is less than other displays.
They already did it with the iPad Mini And those cheapo plastic non-retina iphones coming soon
4.3" is plenty big enough.
The 4" screen today is obviously too small. Especially for the resolution that Apple is so proud of. I think 4.3" would be perfect for the next iPhone. I've held and used a few 4.3" screens and they just seem perfect for "not too big" and "not too small". 5" is just too big.
The 4" screen today is obviously too small. Especially for the resolution that Apple is so proud of. I think 4.3" would be perfect for the next iPhone. I've held and used a few 4.3" screens and they just seem perfect for "not too big" and "not too small". 5" is just too big.
Apple is a completely different company today than even three years ago. Jobs is gone, many have jumped ship, there's been a war in executive management, the company has lost 1/3 of it's capitalized value in the last half year, and growth in its most profitable product segment has plateaued.
What's on the horizon? Google Glass is about to go commercial in the next year potentially changing the market, Samsung's much anticipated GS4 is about to be released, Apple's CEO is hanging on for his dear professional life (I doubt he makes it out of February), Microsoft and Sony close to launching their next home media centers (Playstation 4 and Xbox 720), Blackberry is about to launch the 10 in the US, and the Google Play store is talking off.
If you're looking for signs of innovation from Apple you'll be hard pressed to find it the past couple of years. The iPhone 5 is obviously a reaction to market pressure from larger Android phones and more than anything went to 4" as a "me too" gesture so people wouldn't bash them too much for their anachronistic small displays. The iPad mini is also clearly a "me too" device put out in reaction to smaller Android tablets. And, the mini shows you just how the Apple execs are thinking these days--first they decided on the size, then skimped on the display, and jacked price to fit right in the product line, in FEAR of cannibalizing their own sales.
Apple is going to put out a big phone, as soon as they possibly can. I doubt it was originally on the table for this year, but reports indicate the big phone is on its way. Who would fight against it there? There is no Steve Jobs to say, "F that, we're not doing what everyone else is doing." They have a weak CEO about to be tossed who's been fighting with his execs. Cook's job depends on pleasing the board/investors who are sh#tting bricks.
The 4.98" phone seems quite possible. Going with the mini's display would cut costs and make it easier to ship more quickly. There are like .1 % of Apple's clients who know or care about Retina PPI...they'd just call it Retina and make up something about avg view distance (and half the people on this board will defend them).
The next year will be fun...Apple won't fall below 150/share, but there is no reason to think it couldn't dip that low. 300 probably the more realistic low, but we'll see.
What's on the horizon? Google Glass is about to go commercial in the next year potentially changing the market, Samsung's much anticipated GS4 is about to be released, Apple's CEO is hanging on for his dear professional life (I doubt he makes it out of February), Microsoft and Sony close to launching their next home media centers (Playstation 4 and Xbox 720), Blackberry is about to launch the 10 in the US, and the Google Play store is talking off.
If you're looking for signs of innovation from Apple you'll be hard pressed to find it the past couple of years. The iPhone 5 is obviously a reaction to market pressure from larger Android phones and more than anything went to 4" as a "me too" gesture so people wouldn't bash them too much for their anachronistic small displays. The iPad mini is also clearly a "me too" device put out in reaction to smaller Android tablets. And, the mini shows you just how the Apple execs are thinking these days--first they decided on the size, then skimped on the display, and jacked price to fit right in the product line, in FEAR of cannibalizing their own sales.
Apple is going to put out a big phone, as soon as they possibly can. I doubt it was originally on the table for this year, but reports indicate the big phone is on its way. Who would fight against it there? There is no Steve Jobs to say, "F that, we're not doing what everyone else is doing." They have a weak CEO about to be tossed who's been fighting with his execs. Cook's job depends on pleasing the board/investors who are sh#tting bricks.
The 4.98" phone seems quite possible. Going with the mini's display would cut costs and make it easier to ship more quickly. There are like .1 % of Apple's clients who know or care about Retina PPI...they'd just call it Retina and make up something about avg view distance (and half the people on this board will defend them).
The next year will be fun...Apple won't fall below 150/share, but there is no reason to think it couldn't dip that low. 300 probably the more realistic low, but we'll see.
Perhaps for "evidence" you should look at the fact that the Galaxy S III is outselling the Iphone V in most markets.