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Mojave is just iOS inspired garbage. Terrible update

Man on the moon

Man on the moon

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I am sorry if this is a rant but Mojave is terrible.

Why does the MacOS now have to update in similar manner to iOS devices? Why is there all these iOS inspired apps and presentation all over the place?

Dark mode is just black mode and not that great.

The App store redesign look and feels like it belongs on an iPad.

I love apple but every single time they change something lately it ends up being a step back.
 
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if you dont like the stock apps apple provides you with, simply download one of the dozens of (almost always) more powerful alternatives within or outside of the app store. the other criticisms i may not agree with, but i at least understand. complaining about the stock apps just comes across as valueless moaning.

the past two years have brought about several under the hood updates that you have either deliberately or ignorantly failed to address, and thats where the real efort and fine tuning has been applied.

/end-counter-rant
 
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Man on the moon said:
I am sorry if this is a rant but Mojave is terrible.

Why does the MacOS now have to update in similar manner to iOS devices? Why is there all these iOS inspired apps and presentation all over the place?

Dark mode is just black mode and not that great.

The App store redesign look and feels like it belongs on an iPad.

I love apple but every single time they change something lately it ends up being a step back.
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Erm, you've either not been using the macOS long or just have a selective memory. MacOS, back when it was still Mac OS X, used to do software updates through System Preferences - the App Store updates were a step back in this regard. Marzipan is a way to encourage macOS development.

The new App Store is much faster, much nicer presentation (although the lack of Touch Bar integration is confusing...)

You don't have to use dark mode if you don't want to. The OS is much more polished, much smoother. Best update in years (and I go back to since before OS X). This is a step in the right direction, IMHO.
 
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i changed to normal. The previous human design dark mode is dam nice but now ? My external monitor see nicer then build in monitor ? font..
 
As a few people mentioned, system updates used to be dealt with at the system level.

This only stopped near the end of snow leopard’s active patch development when the Mac App Store was launched.

So this feature is a return to 2010!

As far as speed goes, my system has never felt faster. With all graphics acceleration being moved to metal 2, it really zips.

Dark mode is promising, it’s just that all other applications need to move to support it property. And Mojave has only been out for a week!

And the HTML standard needs a ‘UI dark mode’ CSS flag & then for people to support it.

Tbh I think that the marketing department have over sold dark mode - it’s something that’s going to work great with the programs that creative pros use such as adobe CS, Logic Pro etc. It’s not great for web browsing and document based work.

Finally, the marzipan apps I agree are disappointing. I don’t disagree with what apple are doing (far from it) I just think that maybe in retrospect they should’ve released them in the usual March update and hopefully when development is further along.
 
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Everything's considerably smoother and faster than High Sierra on my 2017 MBP. And I quite like the dark mode when Reduce Transparency option is enabled.
 
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thingstoponder said:
What are you doing even talking about? This is all objectively not true. It looks the same as before other than slightly tweaked transparency and more color options.
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More info on this?
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I haven't got any bench marks, I'm afraid, but what I mean is on my MBP 13 2017 ntb 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5
(8GB + 256GB):
  • Safari 12 (EDIT: scrolling not scaling!) is super smooth and fast in Mojave - especially compared to 12 in HS
  • Any dialogs that side down and up when they appear/disappear (i.e. like when you delete a photo in Photos) were janky in HS - in Mohave they are smooth
  • And there's just a general feeling of all animations being smoother all around & so the system feels faster
Hope that that helps explain more what I meant.
 
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I don’t know if it bug or not but it happens on both dark and light modes but the expand columns in finder at the bottom of the column were u scroll is blank for me not the little 3 little dashes on top of each other like it was in other versions of OS X it still expands like normal when I double click I just find odd and annoying
 
I'm not sure what ya'll are complaining about. I've been using Mojave for about a week now and it doesn't even feel much different from High Sierra. In fact using it I wouldn't even be able to tell I've updated unless I enabled the Desktop stacks (which really cleaned things up for me) and the new apps.

Normally I'm the first to bitch when Apple does something stupid, but they really didn't do much here. I don't really care for dark mode, so I just didn't use it. It's actually nice to have access to my voice memos, synced automatically from my phone. The OS as a whole feels a little bit snappier than High Sierra.

What, oh gods, WHAT do you people want?? :)
 
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I've only experimented with Mojave on an external SSD.
(My personal preference is to use OLDER versions of the OS, and I usually stay at least "two or more" versions of the OS "behind" -- my "daily driver" OS is Low Sierra.)

It actually runs pretty well in my very limited observations (and that's on an external SSD formatted HFS+).

However, I don't disagree that Mojave is further indication that Apple is slowly -- but almost inexorably -- "moving to merge" the Mac OS and iOS.

Hence, we see an app like Safari become "less extensible" (through 3rd party extensions), and more "locked down" into Apple's "we know what's best for you" sandbox.

I suppose that's what the t2 chip is for -- again, not only to lock out others (security-wise), but to "lock you IN", as well.

I don't care for it, myself.
And as an old codger, I do whatever I can to "break free" of Apple's restrictions (such as turning off SIP, etc.).

But then... that's just me.
 
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zorinlynx said:
I'm not sure what ya'll are complaining about. I've been using Mojave for about a week now and it doesn't even feel much different from High Sierra. In fact using it I wouldn't even be able to tell I've updated unless I enabled the Desktop stacks (which really cleaned things up for me) and the new apps.

Normally I'm the first to bitch when Apple does something stupid, but they really didn't do much here. I don't really care for dark mode, so I just didn't use it. It's actually nice to have access to my voice memos, synced automatically from my phone. The OS as a whole feels a little bit snappier than High Sierra.

What, oh gods, WHAT do you people want?? :)
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I just want my MacBook Pro to wake up from sleep, I have to force a restart every time.
 
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Such is part of life. I hate change also. But it is inevitable. Someday PCs will be obsolete and it will all be ipads.
 
George Dawes said:
I'm sticking with Sierra

Not impressed with the way Apple are going with mac os at all
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me too
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ivnj said:
Such is part of life. I hate change also. But it is inevitable. PCs will be obsolete and it will all be ipads.
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sadly, for media/medical/science/big data/banking users, this will never happen, I mean, the day an iPad can export 3D stereoscopic 8K (16K, etc...) in no time, we all be there, connecting our mouse, keyboard and external screens....

but I'm afraid this will never come soon, and SoC will be behind dedicated CPU/GPU systems for a while.
 
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Man on the moon said:
I am sorry if this is a rant but Mojave is terrible.

Why does the MacOS now have to update in similar manner to iOS devices? Why is there all these iOS inspired apps and presentation all over the place?

Dark mode is just black mode and not that great.

The App store redesign look and feels like it belongs on an iPad.

I love apple but every single time they change something lately it ends up being a step back.
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[doublepost=1543462913][/doublepost]Steve is gone so is his intuition so each update narrows the gap between Apple and andcrap, I mean Android
 
Man on the moon said:
I am sorry if this is a rant but Mojave is terrible.

Why does the MacOS now have to update in similar manner to iOS devices? Why is there all these iOS inspired apps and presentation all over the place?

Dark mode is just black mode and not that great.

The App store redesign look and feels like it belongs on an iPad.

I love apple but every single time they change something lately it ends up being a step back.
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Agree
 
Mojave is NOT finished yet, it is still in development. This thread is a little premature.

Sow leopard went all teh wy to 10.6.8 High Sierra went up to 10.13.6... . . . Mojave is currently at 10.14.1
 
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