"[they] don't know how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk."
This certainly isn't a denial...
This certainly isn't a denial...
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The Sony Vaio P does not run on an atom processor, it uses one of Intels ULV Core 2 Duo processors.
*Of course* nobody outside Apple has access to their internal numbers, and they would never admit to it being a flop anyway. Anyone who ever discussed whether the MBA is a flop or not knows this. Which is why I said "it must have sold below expectations". It's called speculation. Speculation is what makes the wheels of forums like this one turn. You showed your true apologist colors by taking offense and screaming for hard facts from inside Apple. If they discontinue it after this revision reaches EOL, you'll know it was a flop -- until then, make do with speculation and guessing like everyone else.
Yeah, sure. As if all the other netbooks out there could run Photoshop. Oh wait, I thought netbooks were only for email, web browsing and light word processing, with low specs and a dirt cheap price. Now it has to be a full-on computer able to process complex special effects and a terrabyte hard drive. What, no HD video editing capabilities either? Epic fail for Apple!
I was thinking that exact same thing this morning... and likened it to the foleo.. which I agree was a bad idea... but, to use a phrase used all too often, if anyone can make it work, Apple could... it'd be great for people with an iPhone/Touch but would be so widely criticized that it might not even be given a chance to succeed.
"[they] don't know how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk."
This certainly isn't a denial...
Apple could essentially take an MSI wind, throw it in an Aluminum casing, and sell it for $500.00, but it would be junk......try watching a 720p video, or even hulu on atom running netbook, not smooth playback at all.
EDIT: Ahh, i see that review lists it as a 1.3 atom, wonder why sony would try to push it as being a core 2 duo (ULV)
If you go to sonys main site the processor just says 1.3 Intel, and if you click on it, it brings up a link about core 2 duo, from that link you gave toms hardware specified the 1.6ghz is an atom, but likewise only lists the 13ghz version available on their site as just Intel.
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...0151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644608896
I trust Sony's website as much as I trust that the iMac has a desktop Core 2 Duo and a desktop video card.
Hmmm...ironic statement considering the Mac Mini's can be had for that price. I suppose this comment was meant in terms of a netbook, but left open ended like that it's kinda embarrassing considering they DO put out a product at that price!
Now as for what can be done about price, that's easy. SUBSIDIZING! Cell phone companies are ramping up to sell netbooks this way, don't see why Apple can't do the same thing and partner with AT&T on. They do it with the iPhone, they can do it with other products too. Just have to be a little bit creative about it that's all.
Haha, that's funny. I think that happens to a lot of us. I think Steve was correct when he said touch devices are just more natural.
Hmmm...maybe I am confused. How would this product cannibalize iPod or iPhone sales? It's not like you are going to lug a 10" screened product around with you to listen to music while going for a jog one morning. And you certainly aren't going to hold it up to your ear to make a phone call with it. Nor will it fit in your pocket easily.
Am I missing something here??
I meant, I can't see myself holding a 10" iPhone up to my ear or one fitting in my arm band when I'm out jogging. Although it would be easier to text and drive at the same time. Especially if there were a video camera that could display the road in front of me while in split screen mode or something.
No, of course you wouldn't try to use it directly as a replacement for an iTouch or iPhone. However, I've found plenty of times that I'd like something bigger than my iTouch, with perhaps a similar interface but with expanded features, such as a BT keyboard, perhaps an iLife and iWork Lite suite.
The iPod Touch with a mini DisplayPort output and a BT keyboard would be more than capable for light document editing and spreadsheets, as well as PowerPoint-type stuff. An Atom processor equipped machine could even do iLife stuff too.
The iTablet must be:
- Light. No more than 300-400 g.
- Small and pocketable.
- Capable of running Keynote and PowerPoint presentations to VGA-out videoprojector.
- True Firewire, Ethernet and at least 2 USB 2 ports.
Much like the OQO:
http://www.oqo.com
but with Mac OS X and a tablet form factor:
Next Apple moves will be Books and Games
http://spidouz.wordpress.com/2008/09...ooks-and-games
- Light. No more than 300-400 g.
- Small and pocketable.
- Capable of running Keynote and PowerPoint presentations to VGA-out videoprojector.
- True Firewire, Ethernet and at least 2 USB 2 ports.
Much like the OQO:
http://www.oqo.com
but with Mac OS X and a tablet form factor:
Next Apple moves will be Books and Games
http://spidouz.wordpress.com/2008/09...ooks-and-games
I highly doubt that it'll have FW, nor do I think it needs it. I barely use it now as it is.
I don't think you are. The minute it comes out with a 9" screen it ceases to directly compete with an iPod Touch.
But it also has to be more than just an iPod Touch with a big screen if it is to succeed. It also will need iLife/iWork (Lite edition if necessary) and more ports.
What divice that is small and pocketable would have firewire/why would you need firewire on a small, pocketable device?
Firewire is essential for Mac OS X repairs via Target Disk Mode. Any Mac user may need it at some point. There is nothing like it on the Windoze world.
ARM would be a mistake
I have Windows 7 and Photoshop on an eeePC Atom with 2 GiB RAM, and it's fine for small stuff. I wouldn't load a 40 MPixel multi-layer project, but I wouldn't want to do that on an MBA either.
I think that people would expect a netbook to be slow at big jobs, but it's nice to be able to do big stuff in a pinch. I'd bring my 6 GiB dual core Win7 x64 laptop if I were expecting to do a lot of Photoshop - but I'd like the option of doing some touchup from the netbook.
It wouldn't run any OSX applications, that's what.
I have Windows 7 and Photoshop on an eeePC Atom with 2 GiB RAM, and it's fine for small stuff. I wouldn't load a 40 MPixel multi-layer project, but I wouldn't want to do that on an MBA either.
I think that people would expect a netbook to be slow at big jobs, but it's nice to be able to do big stuff in a pinch. I'd bring my 6 GiB dual core Win7 x64 laptop if I were expecting to do a lot of Photoshop - but I'd like the option of doing some touchup from the netbook.
It wouldn't run any OSX applications, that's what.