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More Claims of a 2048x1536 Resolution iPad 3 Display
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Apple generally doesn't take a stand on form factors. If it works, it goes on until they think something is better...if not, it joins Pippin. I disagree and agree on the one-button mouse. I personally feel that if the industry had stayed with a one-button mouse it would have been a better overall user experience. Once the rest of the industry went with semi-arcane button combinations, third-party devices allows Mac users to interact. I personally hate going to Windows and having to think about which button does what. For me, its the same as all the small controls on other mobile platforms--Legacies from software engineer designed user interfaces.
Having dozens of old SCSI and ADB devices around, I understand this. But at the same time, it is Apple willingness to drop legacy devices that allow it to move forward. The life of a hard drive or printer falls well within Apple's general support cycle. Companies depending upon devices that old have other problems. Sell the old tech and upgrade.
I had friends that had tens of thousands of dollars in LaserDiscs. AFAIK, they still have them in their basement. I feel Blu-ray is headed the same way. Once streaming from the cloud is universal, I won't need to take up my living space with little pieces of plastic. I no longer buy DVDs because I want to upgrade to Blu-ray...but I haven't upgraded to Blue-ray because I don't trust its longevity. The most significant result of my delay is...NOTHING. I haven't lost anything. I have found that digital fills my needs, so I will probably skip Blu-ray.
I could be wrong. I remember standing in the store looking at DAT and saying to my friend..."Wow! Look at the future!"
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I have a MBP so I didn't see a need for an iPad. But after helping my Mom learn how to work her iPad 1G, I can see myself using this around the house.
Old paradigm - big clunky tower remains stationary while smaller laptop floats around house
New paradigm - "big clunky" laptop remains stationary while smaller iPad floats around house (and everywhere else too)
I almost bought a 2G, I VERY glad I waited!!!
Waiting with CC in hand.....
I have a MBP so I didn't see a need for an iPad. But after helping my Mom learn how to work her iPad 1G, I can see myself using this around the house.
Old paradigm - big clunky tower remains stationary while smaller laptop floats around house
New paradigm - "big clunky" laptop remains stationary while smaller iPad floats around house (and everywhere else too)
I almost bought a 2G, I VERY glad I waited!!!
Waiting with CC in hand.....
Notice that juxtaposition of OSX converging with iOS, and iPad 3 resolution converging with iMac 27" resolution. As everything goes "retina", and applications blur the line between hardware families, the various conflicting resolutions and aspect ratios must be standardized. At the moment I'm scratching my head over how running a remote iMac 27" desktop via the iPad 3 retina display will work out, being of overlapping non-subset dimensions of 2560x1440 vs. 2048x1536. What's going to give? should I buy an iMac 27" this week, will the next (soon) iteration change aspect ratio to match iPad 3?
Even if you process two completely separate 1024x768 images, that's still only half as many pixels as 2048x1536.
Apple halve already done this when they went from the iPhone3GS to 4.
It really wasn't much of a problem. If the developer didn't want to update their app at all, it still worked via pixel doubling. If they did update it, it would scale 'down' to the 3GS just fine. There is no need to create 4 sets of images.
...and ridiculously high resolutions like this, are so good, they won't need to change them again for a long time. Even if they make the iphone5 screen bigger (4 inches), they could keep the same resolution they have now and it would still be razor sharp.
I don't believe they will increase resolution to that level. I mean mac books have been updated for so many iterations and the resolution on MBP 13'' is still 1280*800. Given such a high resolution on ipad would mean much higher requirement on CPU and GPU, and you really have to keep your eye close to your screen to be able to benefit from the extra pixels.
Current tech (Tegra 3) already goes up until 1900x1200 and I don't know this is a panel limitation or a gpu limit. I think Acer upcomming tables will use this resolution.
I can imagine that when the iPad 3 will be launched we will be speaking about whole other numbers. One thing I have learned in technology is that nothing is impossible or that it doesn't stand still.
Hell for all that I know they could (for games) put in an Conexant chip (did miracles for the xbox 360 I heared) to upscale the resolution.
why do games need a higher GPU power for this screen? just because the screen is high res doesn't mean the games need to use it. they still could run on 1024x768 and just be upscaled.
i don't think a high res iPad should be delayed just because of games. there are many serious applications for better screens not just silly games.
Apple has been talking up resolution independence for as long as I can remember. Of course there are many things you can only achieve as bitmap graphics (at least achieve quickly), but vector images and pixel doubling techniques also make up a lot of shortfall.
It's not the doom and gloom you predict, but it's not going to be a switch flip either.
Apple better seriously increase the storage space. With those super high Rez images, 16gb won't cut it. Even the current biggest size 64gb seems small and tight. Remember, all image size is quadrupling.
^ I agree. 64gb is paltry even for existing devices. I've got a 32gb music library, 80gb photo library, 120gb video library and 20gb app library and I've had to resort to the old iPod 3G days of trying to pick and choose what files I want on my device. (160gb iPod classic spoiled me)
Can't tell if you're being serious?
That's one of the points I put forward. It'd be awfully silly though, some games+apps running in 2048x1536, others running in 1024x768 all native and built for iPad 3.
I've also been thinking about the same thing and after much thought I do think it's possible. First I had the same idea as you had, but I believe it's very well possible they can improve the GPU just enough to support 4x the pixels. Games on the iPad don't need the desktop GPU power. iOS games are way more simple and not as complex. Most mobile notebook GPUs nowadays run games better than the Xbox 360 (when using the same AI and same graphics-settings).
An iPad game will need much less of that, even at such an high resolution. I hope Apple can pull it off, because as you I still have some doubts but it's not impossible.
But the price
I bet they will still sell the ipad2 at the current prices or a little less and that the ipad3 will be much more expensive.
I bet they will still sell the ipad2 at the current prices or a little less and that the ipad3 will be much more expensive.
Quality. You're just used to a much lower ppi so you don't really see what you're missing. But you will. Your brain is trained to fill in the gaps and trick you.
I'm not very much into spec details, but I develop iOS apps and my real world experience is: iOS device GPUs are fragment-bound. Even with very low polygon counts, using pixel shaders, full-screen antialiasing and other pixel-level fancy stuff automatically drops your frame rate.
If the rumors are true and we are indeed getting an @2x iPad (can't risk calling it "retina"), either:
1) Apple pumps up the GPU speed/VRAM,
or
2) We are back to iPad 1-performance levels.
Hope for number 1.
If the rumors are true and we are indeed getting an @2x iPad (can't risk calling it "retina"), either:
1) Apple pumps up the GPU speed/VRAM,
or
2) We are back to iPad 1-performance levels.
Hope for number 1.
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Why dont you try it with a native android tablet? Surely if you can wait long enough, one might eventually come along that is half decent.
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Why dont you try it with a native android tablet? Surely if you can wait long enough, one might eventually come along that is half decent.