More Claims of 'Deep' Twitter Integration in iOS 5

[Darwing]

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Man, all you guys not using twitter are missing out. It's not (just) about following friends, I use it for news. Vastly superior way to stay up on the news, particularly local news. I for oneam curious to hear what these new features could be. Things like automatically using local traffic tweets to improve the maps function or local business tweets to aid yelp search results could be interesting.


Also, it's so boring to read feeds of a bunch of people claiming they don't use x service, clearly many, many people love twitter, if it's not for you, skip this thread and move on.

Wait you said we can get updates on news on there!!!!?????

What on earth have I been missing out on? This need a full keynote all to itself!!!

Ok... So by your logic, RSS feeds are useless since websites exist? I'm not sure where in my post you thought I acted like twitter is the best thing ever, I'm just saying that I've gotten news through twitter which would never have existed otherwise that really helped me out. Like at a music festival, you can know where the longest lines are to scoid those shows or show up early enough to get in.

Anyway, you seem to just want to be a jerk for the sake of being a jerk. Enjoy that. I'm going to continue to use good services for good purposes.

Listen I'm not being a jerk, I'm being sarcastic. A full integration for a service that is simply merely "app" worthy isn't something to focus on in a developers conference. Android already has mass integration of Facebook and twitter throughout their OS, but you don't see them holding a conference for it.

The shear fact that they are excited to announce this is lowering the value of the operating system.

Yes there is goingto be a new notification system (thank god) and basically everything that jailbreakers work for should be a full integration like better email integration throughout the whole system... NOT TWITTER!!

Twitter is decent for an app or widget but for what the rumors are talking about is outlandish and uncalled for lowering the expectations of a highly anticipated operating upgrade

So you have inside info that they won't actually announce more info on lion or the rest iOS 5 or icloud? Because clearly this one rumor is going to take up the WHOLE presentation. In fact, apple nay just shut down and become s developer for twitter.

See sarcasm has a place, and being a hyperbolic jerk on a forum isn't helpful.

Yes doely noted, and I took your sarcasm as humorous and whitty, with an underlying message, stop taking offense where none was given and take the underlying message from it.

Or you could just go back to taking sensitivity classes and we would all be rid of your emo ways towards defending apple and their twitter integration.

Finally, yes they will be announcing quite a lot at this developers conference, but I feel that this rumor isn't worthy of even mentioning at the conference. It should be one of those things that is just a given, and something that u find out about while everyday use is occurring.

 

[maclaptop]

I'm sure there will be an option to opt out and switch Twitter API support off in the same way they do for Push Notifications.

No chance.

Apples going to grab more info from it's customers than the US government.

You think you're being watched now?

Crank up the denial fanboys. You're gonna need it.

What else will the nefarious leader pull next?

Damn, so much for Apple

 

[Bigdaddyguido]

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is it legally required to refer to him/it as "Daring Fireball's John Gruber?" (Mac Gruber?) extremely annoying blatant self promotion

How do I not read posts without going sway?

How was my first post, not the response to you not on topic? It was about how this could be useful.

Look, you're being friendly now and not just being snarky about me being excited about what this announcement could be, but if you re-read my post and your response, maybe you can see how I got the idea that you were just being rude because you don't like twitter, so therefore no one should.

 

[writingdevil]

good point

So many posts about how stupid Twitter is, etc. MacRumors has over 114,000 Twitter followers, so someone here must like it! I happen to be a huge Twitter user. It's a very valuable research and marketing tool if used properly. I think one of Twitter's biggest problems is that figuring out what to do with it is not very intuitive. You have to do a bit of research and trial and error to really find a valuable use. But, once you get over the learning curve, it's very useful. With that said, I realize that it's definitely not for everyone. That's cool. Those of us that use it will like the integration. Those that don't use it will hopefully not find the integration to obtrusive.

it may be a generational thing, although i have lots of buds who are very tech savvy, some are programmers, a developer, but would not, in a million years, explore "social" kind of things. when "social" is used all the "got to talk in person or it's not real" people roll their eyes or shrug it off to non-communication, but it's fast and short with lot's of potential. the right people have to manage the uses of it because in some of the poster's hands here it would be a disaster.
i also agree that making the effort is a smart move by apple to keep working a younger market, though some "pros' seem offended, but hopefully nothing will be forced down their pipes and i am quite sure nothing else is being delayed in apple creative labs due to twitter coming on board.
seems a kind of silly thrashing although it is friday and maybe people have free time (or lots of work week pressure to spew at something)

 

[BlindMellon]

It would be nice if they gave us the option of hiding icons that we don't want to use. Half of the Apple apps I never use, and as you said, i can't delete them.

That's what folders are for.

What's more annoying? People talking about Twitter or people talking about how they don't use Twitter?

How about Apple "deeply integrating" it into iOS5?

 

[NorCalLights]

Makes me sad that some of the creative energy of Apple has been pissed away working on this. Would have preferred to see it spent on something more meaningful.

You haven't seen what they've done yet... want to hold off judgement?

 

[stevemiller]

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People can argue for twitters legitimate uses, but they can't argue that it does encourage a lot of annoying narcissistic behavior too, and I'm pretty sure these new iOS features will mainly benefit the latter

 

[Benjamins]

Who cares. I'd rather have facebook photo integration. I'm not a big FB user but have noticed I do post more photos since I've had the fb app on my iPhone. It's usually just odd/funny type photos I see while out a d abou on my travels. I'm sure some people are salivating over this though!

I think part of the reason there's no talk about facebook integration's because facebook doesn't allow apple to use ping with facebook.

If true, part of me think Apple invested in Twitter.

 

[PeterQVenkman]

How do I not read posts without going away?

1) The same way you stop reading a book without going away.
2) Set the user who posted to ignore in your user CP if they continue to make posts you dislike.

How was my first post, not the response to you not on topic?

I don't know. I never read it nor commented on that specific post.

Look, you're being friendly now and not just being snarky about me being excited about what this announcement could be, but if you re-read my post and your response, maybe you can see how I got the idea that you were just being rude because you don't like twitter, so therefore no one should.

Nobody here is out to pick on you, and one can't read tone of voice in a forum post, so please don't assume people are being rude when they disagree with your point of view. Some of my favorite posters on here are people who have the opposite opinions of me. They keep me thinking.

 

[writingdevil]

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"Yes doely noted, and I took your sarcasm as humorous and whitty, with an underlying message, stop taking offense where none was given and take the underlying message from it.

Or you could just go back to taking sensitivity classes and we would all be rid of your emo ways towards defending apple and their twitter integration.

Finally, yes they will be announcing quite a lot at this developers conference, but I feel that this rumor isn't worthy of even mentioning at the conference. It should be one of those things that is just a given, and something that u find out about while everyday use is occurring.

well, i guess that some developers will include twitter in their creative thinking. it's on the forefront of a huge market. that may change, but apple's growth hasn't been decided by people sitting on the fence throwing rocks at the guys in the ring working new concepts into existence. i'm a fan of apple's looking at where the puck will be, not where it was, is or where i (somebody) wants it to be. kill the chance to take creative risks, kill creativity. not why i use apple and the film companies i've worked for use it for film editing, feature animation, television production, music videos, news shows and more.

 

[Ed91]

I have no idea what this "deep integration" could be, but it's wrong to think of twitter as merely a social networking tool. I have a twitter account, though I rarely tweet.

Twitter can be a beautiful social search engine. If you're looking to see if something has recently happened to everyone and not just just you, or if someone has had, and solved the same issue, you'll find it. This is limited to users of twitter tweeting, but I usually find what I need.

Also, Twitter is so fast paced that it can be hard to control. This is both a positive, where freedoms of speech are concerned, and a negative, when heresay spreads like wildfire.

What I see as the true power of Twitter is that it ISN'T personal unless you make it that way. Until then, it's just a hugely powerful communication tool, for better, for worse.

 

[(marc)]

Aw, yet another excuse for Apple users to be annoyingly egotistical...

 

[Bigdaddyguido]

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People can argue for twitters legitimate uses, but they can't argue that it does encourage a lot of annoying narcissistic behavior too, and I'm pretty sure these new iOS features will mainly benefit the latter

Give me proof that a non-narcissist has been converted by twitter to become shallow and self-centered? Do you even use twitter? Are you aware that many people use twitter and NEVER talk about what they're doing? How can you possibly know what these features are and how they'll affect users? Are you posting from the future? (if so, any stock tips???)


It just feels like an awful lot of people who are very clueless about this topic are acting like they're needs are so important that whatever this feature is, it's beneath them, and a waste of everyone's tome for it to exist.

 

[Bigdaddyguido]

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How do I not read posts without going away?

1) The same way you stop reading a book without going away.
2) Set the user who posted to ignore in your user CP if they continue to make posts you dislike.

How was my first post, not the response to you not on topic?

I don't know. I never read it nor commented on that specific post.

Look, you're being friendly now and not just being snarky about me being excited about what this announcement could be, but if you re-read my post and your response, maybe you can see how I got the idea that you were just being rude because you don't like twitter, so therefore no one should.

Nobody here is out to pick on you, and one can't read tone of voice in a forum post, so please don't assume people are being rude when they disagree with your point of view. Some of my favorite posters on here are people who have the opposite opinions of me. They keep me thinking.

I understand positive discourse. They didn't actually counter my ideas, or even talk about them, they said that checking the news was nothing new. Ok... Good point, I guess, but I'm not sure if it expanded my knowledge about anything.

 

[writingdevil]

good ideas

I think they are going To do App services, which will be similar to mac services

Devs can register their app with the system advertising the types of data their app can handle and what methods are available.

This way any app can have "deep" intergation with the os.

for example:

You select some text then select the "service" option this will show a list of app the apps that can deal with text. You select twitter then you can select to post a new tweet based on the text. In the background the twitter app is spun up and a tweet is posted without leaving the app you are in. Same could easily be done for Facebook posts.

Another example you select a picture in the photos app then select service. flickr, face kook, twitter are listed. you select flickr then upload image. Consuming an image service could also be done by selecting an image in an email or on a web page.

If Apple decide to do widgets then the services could easily be consumed by these widgets.. A widget for posting a tweet for example.

Of course the user will have full control on which apps are available as a service.

i hope you're a developer. there's a lot of potential in taking creative steps like this, and also a downside, but apple has never been shy about taking risks, which is why i like apple and their products. there is so much negative about the twitter issue, after reading a lot of them i can only chalk it up to people who are more interested in things within their view of creativity, and i'm sure it's a wide view. this just happens to hit some people the wrong way but i think developers who are attracted to it will make it sing, and that's why i like the app store. lot's of different choices for different types of people.

 

[skellener]

I think I'd rather have iPhoto Home Sharing to ALL iOS devices instead of "deep Twitter integration". Only the AppleTV2 and another Mac work with that now. I can't access all my photos in iPhoto on the iPad while on the same network.

 

[vincenz]

Really really don't care about twitter even the tiniest bit.

 

[Bigdaddyguido]

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I think they are going To do App services, which will be similar to mac services

Devs can register their app with the system advertising the types of data their app can handle and what methods are available.

This way any app can have "deep" intergation with the os.

for example:

You select some text then select the "service" option this will show a list of app the apps that can deal with text. You select twitter then you can select to post a new tweet based on the text. In the background the twitter app is spun up and a tweet is posted without leaving the app you are in. Same could easily be done for Facebook posts.

Another example you select a picture in the photos app then select service. flickr, face kook, twitter are listed. you select flickr then upload image. Consuming an image service could also be done by selecting an image in an email or on a web page.

If Apple decide to do widgets then the services could easily be consumed by these widgets.. A widget for posting a tweet for example.

Of course the user will have full control on which apps are available as a service.

i hope you're a developer. there's a lot of potential in taking creative steps like this, and also a downside, but apple has never been shy about taking risks, which is why i like apple and their products. there is so much negative about the twitter issue, after reading a lot of them i can only chalk it up to people who are more interested in things within their view of creativity, and i'm sure it's a wide view. this just happens to hit some people the wrong way but i think developers who are attracted to it will make it sing, and that's why i like the app store. lot's of different choices for different types of people.

Great ideas in these posts. Twitter really seems like a better advertising technique for developers than many other resources, but adding more collaborative ways to spread ideas would really help both apple's developers and twitters relevance as a service

 

[ASKendrew]

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I really hope this is true! I guess we'll have to wait and see though...

 

[TallManNY]

I've started using Twitter this spring while watching NBA playoffs. I set it up to follow a bunch of basketball analysts. It is pretty cool because as watching the game I'm also getting real time analysis that is much much better than the announcers. It is also an upgrade over the normal chatter of the guys at the sports bar. Not a replacement, but definitely a nice addition.

I'm interested to see what Apple does here. They might screw it up but supposedly we are going to love it. Let's wait and see.

 

[LarryC]

I've never use Twitter. Is this really that necessary?

Is it even worthy of being a front page headline/story? I really don't think so.

 

[Bigdaddyguido]

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I've started using Twitter this spring while watching NBA playoffs. I set it up to follow a bunch of basketball analysts. It is pretty cool because as watching the game I'm also getting real time analysis that is much much better than the announcers. It is also an upgrade over the normal chatter of the guys at the sports bar. Not a replacement, but definitely a nice addition.

I'm interested to see what Apple does here. They might screw it up but supposedly we are going to love it. Let's wait and see.

Sports are what finally sold me on twitter as well after being on the fence for a year. Journalist really use the service to the fullest. Heres to hoping apple makes twitter more tech/developer relevant.

 

[Robin4]

I have no idea what this "deep integration" could be, but it's wrong to think of twitter as merely a social networking tool. I have a twitter account, though I rarely tweet.

Twitter can be a beautiful social search engine. If you're looking to see if something has recently happened to everyone and not just just you, or if someone has had, and solved the same issue, you'll find it. This is limited to users of twitter tweeting, but I usually find what I need.

Also, Twitter is so fast paced that it can be hard to control. This is both a positive, where freedoms of speech are concerned, and a negative, when heresay spreads like wildfire.

What I see as the true power of Twitter is that it ISN'T personal unless you make it that way. Until then, it's just a hugely powerful communication tool,
for better, for worse.

That's what I was thinking. I hate Facebook, Ping, etc. I don't like to know every little thing about anyone I may know. But, I am interested in reading news as it happens. I would like to read what someone interesting i.e., politician, writer, columnist, geek, etc. is thinking at a time that things are
happening.

I hope socializing is the least important fact about is new tool. It might be interesting. If I don't like it, I'll move it to the last page.

 

[Robin4]

I have no idea what this "deep integration" could be, but it's wrong to think of twitter as merely a social networking tool. I have a twitter account, though I rarely tweet.

Twitter can be a beautiful social search engine. If you're looking to see if something has recently happened to everyone and not just just you, or if someone has had, and solved the same issue, you'll find it. This is limited to users of twitter tweeting, but I usually find what I need.

Also, Twitter is so fast paced that it can be hard to control. This is both a positive, where freedoms of speech are concerned, and a negative, when heresay spreads like wildfire.

What I see as the true power of Twitter is that it ISN'T personal unless you make it that way. Until then, it's just a hugely powerful communication tool,
for better, for worse.

That's what I was thinking. I hate Facebook, Ping, etc. I don't like to know every little thing about anyone I may know. But, I am interested in reading news as it happens. I would like to read what someone interesting i.e.,
politician, writer, columnist, geek, etc. is thinking at a time that things are
happening.

I hope socializing is the least important fact about is new tool. It might be interesting. If I don't like this, I'll move it to the last page.

 

[KnightWRX]

I hope it's not like Ping where they shove a "Twitter!" button all over (Camera app, pictures app, e-mail app, stocks app, etc..) with little to not way to disable them.