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If this is true, I'd be curious to know which VP leaked the info. It's annoying to expect thousands of employees and contractors to withold comment and speculation with threat of termination if they even guess about future products, and then have some cavalier veep let it slip off his tongue with wild abandon. I hope Apple holds its threat of retribution against leakers of information to all classes of employees and contractors.

That is, of course, assuming any of this story is true.
 
If this is true, I'd be curious to know which VP leaked the info.

Rumors are its someone who looks quite like the man in this picture.. ;)

The google leak about LBS just seems such a tease.
 

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I understand GPS in an airplane, we are going very, very fast and there are no street signs.
But on the ground? :confused:
Besides, the current scheme with maps works indoors and GPS does not.
That being said I would still hope for 3g and GPS for the ultimate phone!
 
I Believe It

3G I can see but i don't think GPS

It would be nice although.
 
The one rumor I hope is NOT true is the OLED display. Aside from the short longevity (OLED is best for screens that aren't on much--which may apply to most phones but an iPhone begs for frequent use), OLED is apparently impossible to see in direct sunlight--just like a typical laptop. No thanks! I like the partially-reflective screens of iPods and iPhones, which are readable in sunlight.

You know that like 97% of current cell phones have OLED displays. They're much more power efficient than regular backlit LCDs, and they're also easier to see in sunlight than an LCD.
 
There is no way the iPhone will carry GPS. It is simply too power hungry. It is encouraging to see more confirmations for a 3g June release though. It seems likely as the 2.0 update is already scheduled for June. Just one more thing anyone?

Well on the blackberry, you and switch off the application that run the GPS. So it doesn't need to run constantly, only when you are using it. Seems like it would be the same on an iPhone. But you're right, GPS does weigh on battery life.
 
They can't release it in June- the FCC needs a public window of 6 months to test it, during that time the FCC approval application is publicly viewable... or something... am I wrong on this? I thought that was the reason the original iPhone was announced 6 months in advance? I could see them ANNOUNCING it at macworld, but then, they would miss Christmas. I think they will announce it at the end of April, for release by black Friday of thi year.

you are wrong... go do some research.. the topic regarding FCC has been discussed a lot of time.

time for FCC approval can be attained in shorter time. FCC can also restrict the public from seeing what they are testing. Use some logic.
 
I can almost 100% guarantee that the new iphones will be launched in june. this will prob happen during the time of WWDC
 
You know that like 97% of current cell phones have OLED displays. They're much more power efficient than regular backlit LCDs, and they're also easier to see in sunlight than an LCD.

Are you sure about that? I though OLED was not very common yet...it is very pricey.
 
when will they release native application to turn my phone into universal remote.

True universal remote? Maybe not... BUT! Let's say I have an iPhone and an airport xtreme with a 1TB drive attached (I have none of these:() with all of my media stored on it. How hard could it be for me to be able to browse and select whatever music/video I want through my iPhone with an interface similar to airtunes? If I'm sitting on my couch, I can flip through my video library with touch-coverflow and play it through :apple:TV. If I'm out in the backyard at the BBQ, I can select/pause/skip through my music (potentially even creating a playlist "on-the-go"). Doesn't seem like it would be a big stretch tech-wise, and I, for one, would love it.
 
True universal remote? Maybe not... BUT! Let's say I have an iPhone and an airport xtreme with a 1TB drive attached (I have none of these:() with all of my media stored on it. How hard could it be for me to be able to browse and select whatever music/video I want through my iPhone with an interface similar to airtunes? If I'm sitting on my couch, I can flip through my video library with touch-coverflow and play it through :apple:TV. If I'm out in the backyard at the BBQ, I can select/pause/skip through my music (potentially even creating a playlist "on-the-go"). Doesn't seem like it would be a big stretch tech-wise, and I, for one, would love it.

And I, for two, would love it also.
 
True universal remote? Maybe not... BUT! Let's say I have an iPhone and an airport xtreme with a 1TB drive attached (I have none of these:() with all of my media stored on it. How hard could it be for me to be able to browse and select whatever music/video I want through my iPhone with an interface similar to airtunes? If I'm sitting on my couch, I can flip through my video library with touch-coverflow and play it through :apple:TV. If I'm out in the backyard at the BBQ, I can select/pause/skip through my music (potentially even creating a playlist "on-the-go"). Doesn't seem like it would be a big stretch tech-wise, and I, for one, would love it.

You just described this:

http://www.sonos.com/products/?tref=ghome
 
No s**t?! So that remote can play movies (on IT'S screen), make phone calls, browse the internet and I can take it with me to do all of these on the go? Bitchin'! Oh, and it's interface is also on par with an Apple product?:rolleyes:

Well, excuse me, but the functionality you described is exactly like the link I provided, Sherlock.

But I see your point: It's not neat until Apple makes it, and if only we could do it all while talking on the phone. I assume you'd also prefer to have in-built stereo speakers, so you could do away with your "big" set. To do what you suggest in a single device will render your phone useless when you need it, unless you want to have plugged in constantly while at home, thus negating the wireless part and all your dreams. :rolleyes:
 
I wish they'd do a version without a camera (but I know they wont :( ) so I could use it in work. That would be so perfect for me.

Surely there is a market though for a simpler iPhone (Nano) without the camera, gps, smaller, no web, etc.?
 
New iPhone and SDK Launch Win Win

New hardware plus the expanded abilities the SDK brings will make the iPhone a serious force in both consumer and enterpise markets! This should be very interesting!
 
I really hope they do add GPS. I currently have a phone, iPod and PDA with GPS, and would love to combine them all into one device.

GPS is very useful to me, whether it is finding an address I haven't been before when walking around London, working out the best way back when going hiking or finding the quickest route to a destination in the car.

I do agree, GPS can take a lot of power. My PDA lasts about 3 hours with GPS (although it is quite a bit smaller than the iPhone. But then the iPhone should just disable it when not in use.
 
I have a TomTom BT that I used with my Windows Mobile phone. How did you get the TomTom software on the iPhone? Or are you using the TomTom BT receiver and another GPS app on the iPhone with turn-by-turn directions? I assume that Google Maps does not work realtime. Or is TomTom alpha testing an app for the iPhone? Please shed some light on this configuration.

I think you'll find your getting excited over nothing....I think the OP means that his iPhone and TomTom (Actual sat nav) are happy to talk to each other so he can use the tomtom as a speakerphone.
 
I understand GPS in an airplane, we are going very, very fast and there are no street signs.
But on the ground? :confused:
Besides, the current scheme with maps works indoors and GPS does not.
That being said I would still hope for 3g and GPS for the ultimate phone!

As someone who owns a Garman for my car, it's easy... navigation from point to point.

Put down 100 Infinate Loop to xxx and let the computer do the rest. Maps can be handled on an as needed basis using 3G/EDGE, and if it's not available, voice navigation would do.

Who knows, apple probably has something up their sleeve.
 
With these predictions, what can we predict about the price of the 3G iPhone?
 
iPhone as remote

True universal remote? Maybe not... BUT! Let's say I have an iPhone and an airport xtreme with a 1TB drive attached (I have none of these:() with all of my media stored on it. How hard could it be for me to be able to browse and select whatever music/video I want through my iPhone with an interface similar to airtunes? If I'm sitting on my couch, I can flip through my video library with touch-coverflow and play it through :apple:TV. If I'm out in the backyard at the BBQ, I can select/pause/skip through my music (potentially even creating a playlist "on-the-go"). Doesn't seem like it would be a big stretch tech-wise, and I, for one, would love it.

To use your iPhone (or iPod touch) as a remote, you may want to check out IOSPIRIT's Remote Buddy at http://www.iospirit.com/remotebuddy/, which features an AJAX remote for iPhone. It lets you remote control a number of applications over WiFi, and you can even get a live stream from your iSight or a view of your desktop delivered to your iPhone. As I don't have an iPhone yet, I have only tested this from Safari (on both a Mac and an XP PC), but I must admit to being fairly impressed. Looking forward to being able to deliver a Keynote presentation remotely controlled from an iPhone.
 
you are wrong... go do some research.. the topic regarding FCC has been discussed a lot of time.

time for FCC approval can be attained in shorter time. FCC can also restrict the public from seeing what they are testing. Use some logic.

To set the record straight:

* A cell phone generally can not sold until the FCC has granted authorization for its use within the US.
* The FCC generally discloses to the public when I device is under review. My understanding is that they can not withhold this limited information for non-government applicants.
* The applicant can request that the details of the device be kept confidential while its under review (in the case of the iPhone, Apple asked for confidentiality until 45 days after certification).

With the iPhone, Apple announced it January 9th but didn't complete their application with the FCC until March 8th. They received certification May 17th, but didn't have sufficient quantities to go on sale until June 29th.

Some links
* Code of Federal Regulations, Title 47, Chapter 1, Part 0
** Of interest is 0.457 which states the things they don't disclose, and 0.459 that says how to request information not be disclosed.
* iPhone certification packet
* Letter requesting confidentiality
 
3G I can see but i don't think GPS It would be nice although.

Why do so many people think GPS (or A-GPS) won't be in the 3G iPhone? It's incredibly popular in nearly all other high-end smartphones, the chipsets are very small and easy to implement, the power usage isn't terrible especially since it doesn't need to be on all the time, and it's a very useful selling point for the iPhone.
I mean come on, this is the phone with multi-touch Google Maps as a primary selling point! And no GPS! I though it was crazy that they left it out of version 1! I would be shocked come June to see no GPS chip in iPhone 3G.


You know that like 97% of current cell phones have OLED displays. They're much more power efficient than regular backlit LCDs, and they're also easier to see in sunlight than an LCD.

lol! are you serious? I can't tell if you are joking, really bad at sarcasm, or just woefully misinformed, but that statement is patently false! 97% (or more) of all phones use a standard LCD screen. Now I'm not sure about Japan/Korea, but at least in the US/EURO market, I believe there have been less than five phones EVER that have used OLED technology.
Organic LED technology is VERY new and is just starting to trickle into consumer electronics. They promise very low power usage, incredible contrast and color range, very slim profiles, and even flexible displays. Although there is a lot of R&D in progress, the organic light-emitting layer still has a short lifetime (especially the blue component), and the manufacturing yields are still low. But within 3-5 years, I'd guess they will overtake LCD screens in small applications like cell phones.


I understand GPS in an airplane, we are going very, very fast and there are no street signs. But on the ground? :confused:
Besides, the current scheme with maps works indoors and GPS does not.

Street signs? Are you honestly telling me you would rather navigate around a city following street signs than using GPS? Maybe if you lived in a very rural area and never traveled, I could see why GPS wouldn't be a big deal.
But for everyone else in the world, It's the best thing since sliced bread.

GPS is especially useful when you are traveling for "getting your bearings" on where your hotel is in relation to everything else around you. It makes finding nearby businesses, restaurants, museums, parks, highways, etc a snap. I know I'm constantly using Google maps whether on my laptop or my crappy TREO. I can only imagine finally having GPS in an iPhone with real google maps. I can't wait!
 
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